Okami to Randoseru ~Kyu Saishuka to Tensei Musume no Dungeon Gohan~ - Vol. 2 Ch. 8.2

[MangaDex]

 

[OWMWO]

Smart kid don't waste food.

 

[GipoScribantino]

Huh, can she actually go with him to a top dungeon despite just receiving her license? Is it because he can guarantee for her? Comics with dungeon explorers and guilds usually spend pages on petty bureaucracy, this one glossing over it feels a bit "empty" (in a good way).

 

[vauneg]

Huh, can she actually go with him to a top dungeon despite just receiving her license? Is it because he can guarantee for her? Comics with dungeon explorers and guilds usually spend pages on petty bureaucracy, this one glossing over it feels a bit "empty" (in a good way).

This manga started with petty bureaucracy, they wouldn't let him take her out of the dungeon.

 

[N2O]

Yay!! Congrats Momo!!

 

[GipoScribantino]

This manga started with petty bureaucracy, they wouldn't let him take her out of the dungeon.

Yeah, but that was like two panels in a single chapter and at the very beginning, so it doubled as introducing the characters. I'm talking about whole arcs where the person in question has to "rank up" in the middle of the plot by completing this or that difficult quest where they meet an unexpected obstacle and it lasts for 5 to 10 chapters.

 

[Miserys_End]

Yeah, but that was like two panels in a single chapter and at the very beginning, so it doubled as introducing the characters. I'm talking about whole arcs where the person in question has to "rank up" in the middle of the plot by completing this or that difficult quest where they meet an unexpected obstacle and it lasts for 5 to 10 chapters.

O . o;

They spent multiple chapters after that initial Guild roadblock to conquer an entire second S ranked dungeon, afterwhich were surrounded by Royal Guards and wrapped up the forst arc. So they did exactly as you described. Sure it might not of taken a whole arc to accomplish, but it was certainly more then just the two pages you claim it was.

 

[GipoScribantino]

Sure it might not of taken a whole arc to accomplish, but it was certainly more then just the two pages you claim it was.

Sorry, I explained it poorly.
The bureaucracy stopping the kid from exiting the dungeon was barely two pages (the panels were big) and the quest to deal with the paperwork (conquer a particular dungeon) is early enough to serve as a character introduction, irrespective of how many pages it took. There was no waste of time explaining how the system works and Alba talking about the dungeons at the end of chapter 1 is worldbuilding (and the end of the chapter, anyway).
The bureaucracy I reference in other works is the one that happens in the middle of the story, after the characters have been introduced, and serves nothing but to send the protagonists somewhere and add a new supporting character to the cast, something you can write about without the arbitrary blocking wall of paperwork.
The equivalent here would've been if Nono were to be asked to go on a bunch of "solo quests" to gather reputation and get a "higer level" card, before they could've gone to the desert dungeon. Since the last panel shows the dungeon itself, it's reasonable to expect the upcoming chapters will be focused on exploring said place; there is of course the chance the author is bamboozling us and Nono will have to deal with ranks and stuff, but as it stands I have no reason to believe that is the case, hence my comment about lacking petty bureaucracy in the middle of the story (even though this is only chapter 8).

 

[jctsoi]

Page 14... "She never experienced high-stakes moment that could that could define her life"

I guess they were never informed of entrance exams in Japan to try to get into a good elementary schools. I hear those things are brutal.

 

[unknown081]

Man I feel bad for the other vendor if they lose customers over a little girl picking food.

Look at him switching from 'lets make a feast' to 'I wanted take out in the first place' the moment his effort went into disaster. Not even a prince is immune to evading their own mistake.

Page 14... "She never experienced high-stakes moment that could that could define her life"

I guess they were never informed of entrance exams in Japan to try to get into a good elementary schools. I hear those things are brutal.

I've heard of high school and maybe some middle school can be hellish, but elementary??? Are they skipping straight to algebra right off the bat??

 

[d_a_renoir]

I've heard of high school and maybe some middle school can be hellish, but elementary??? Are they skipping straight to algebra right off the bat??

I mean, any test-taking is probably hellish for a toddler since I don't think preschools have tests so this is their first experience doing something like that. Like, it's only just entering primary 1, so they'd be like, what, 4? 5 years old? I think I've also read somewhere that the parents would be watching the whole time, so it's awkward too.

 

[Mister_Susan]

I've heard of high school and maybe some middle school can be hellish, but elementary??? Are they skipping straight to algebra right off the bat??

Wealthier parts of Asia are cutthroat, man. I lived in a place in northern Hong Kong that had highly competitive preschools. When I asked about it, the stories included filtering kids by how fast they could crawl and their ability to sort colors…

 

[unknown081]

Wealthier parts of Asia are cutthroat, man. I lived in a place in northern Hong Kong that had highly competitive preschools. When I asked about it, the stories included filtering kids by how fast they could crawl and their ability to sort colors…

now I'm just imagining the school line then up and have the toddlers race or something XD I'm glad I'm not from that part of Asia

 

[Miserys_End]

Sorry, I explained it poorly.
The bureaucracy stopping the kid from exiting the dungeon was barely two pages (the panels were big) and the quest to deal with the paperwork (conquer a particular dungeon) is early enough to serve as a character introduction, irrespective of how many pages it took. There was no waste of time explaining how the system works and Alba talking about the dungeons at the end of chapter 1 is worldbuilding (and the end of the chapter, anyway).
The bureaucracy I reference in other works is the one that happens in the middle of the story, after the characters have been introduced, and serves nothing but to send the protagonists somewhere and add a new supporting character to the cast, something you can write about without the arbitrary blocking wall of paperwork.
The equivalent here would've been if Nono were to be asked to go on a bunch of "solo quests" to gather reputation and get a "higer level" card, before they could've gone to the desert dungeon. Since the last panel shows the dungeon itself, it's reasonable to expect the upcoming chapters will be focused on exploring said place; there is of course the chance the author is bamboozling us and Nono will have to deal with ranks and stuff, but as it stands I have no reason to believe that is the case, hence my comment about lacking petty bureaucracy in the middle of the story (even though this is only chapter 8).

O . o;

Don't see how that is any different then your first explanation. Nor do I think it offers any new compelling arguments. Sure I could see how some guild official would try to insert themselves into the situation, but I could also see them being shut down hard by pointing out that she has not only already traversed two S Ranked dungeons, but also that they were not overly worried about her inclusion before she became a guild member.

Then there is Alba himself. Someone who regularly explores S Ranked dungeons solo. And just happens to also be Royality. Add in the A Ranked solo idiot who seems to have attached himself to Alba and Nano and any guild official would find any roadblocks they tried to erect demolished or even outright ignored.

So it's not that I don't think there wasn't some background noise about Alba taking a child into dangerous locations, they were just crushed under the weight of failing to appropriately handle said child's existence when she first appeared.