Shujinkou no Osananajimi ga, Wakiyaku no Ore ni Guigui Kuru - Ch. 4

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I do think there is a différence between in the wrong and Sexual assault lvl error
Yes, but they had already been friends for 2 years at that point. The dude had absolutely zero charitability towards Kazu, a friend he was supposed to know well by that point, and just went with the accusations, if not spearheaded them (although, he was probably the one who set the whole thing up to begin with)

There are so many red flags, this is why it just doesn’t make sense that Kazu still thinks that he is just a swell guy. That “last ally even if they are in the wrong” part should have at least hit a nerve or something.
 
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I just binge read these 4 chapters. I was convinced ice princess girl would also have time traveled and reveal it at some point. But the more they interact the less likely that seems.

Also friendly reminder that ice empress wasn't part of this setup. Voluntarily.
I still think she did.
Wouldn't surprise me if she went full Mirai Nikki either
 
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He just hasn't noticed it yet, but he will soon. That's just to show how crazy the protag dude charisma is.
Did you read ln? I have same question in FB anda some pp reply that this mf really dangerous anda have two face, even mc cant see it
 
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DEATH IS TOO GOOD FOR AMADA'S SHITTY ASS.

Also hidaka is so cute and expressive this chapter and our Handsome,gentle,caring,intelligent MC js such a Chad frfr
 
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Did you read ln? I have same question in FB anda some pp reply that this mf really dangerous anda have two face, even mc cant see it
He is a manipulative bastard. But he never directly involve himself with anything, and quickly throw others if they are in a precarious position. He doesn't care about anyone aside of Hidaka.
 
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so from what i remember the mc lost all his family and took his own life right? can i get some spoilers about if the people who framed him get at least the same level of punishment?
from what I've heard in pretty detailed spoilers here, Kazuki will discover that Amada is the real mastermind behind everything awful that happened to him, he's a sociopath who thinks himself as a romcom protagonist so everything he does is justified, and he used their love to manipulate his harem into framing Kazuki out of jealousy for a mere mob daring to steal the main girl from him, the protagonist. Realizing that Kazuki ruins the social life of all of Kazuki's harem and even his rich best friend, and when Amada tries to pull the whole "framing planting nude pics on his phone" from the past timeline again, Kazuki had a countermeasure and expose Amada for what he really is, his entire harem gets heartbroken seeing what a POS he is, and the entire school starts hating him, so he stops coming to school. Apparently in volume 2 of the LN Amada returns after having his delusions restored by a girl who comes out of nowhere madly in live with him, and tries a new move framing Hidaka so she's forced to change school sonhe can transfer to the same school as her, but the plan ultimately backfire and he once again ends up alone after breaking the heart of the one girl who still liked him and his harem revealing they played with his feelings pretending to come back to him to discover what he was scheming and protect Kazuki from him (also I've heard that Amada gets quite the beating from a guy he tried to frame as a stalker)
 
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I still think she did.
Wouldn't surprise me if she went full Mirai Nikki either
Well, considering a spoiler i got from the LN I'd say it's not impossible, not getting into much spoiler, but she shares a common trait with 2 other characters with memories of the og timeline, and from what I've heard these 3 are the only characters with said trait
 
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Why does the MC react with the "he's so good natured" when the romcom protag dude says he'll be the last ally of someone in the wrong? Doesn't he have first-hand evidence that's a lie?
They are gullible yeah

But I can already see how this will go

Basically him pushing the 2 away leads to them being closer compared to the previous timeline so even if he gets accused later on the 2 instead of leading the bullying they lead the support for him like “my best bro will never do this” and the evil women’s plan will be ruined.

There is still a bitter taste that they will only do it if its someone they know but lead the bullying if its someone they don’t idk how the author will fix that unless the MC tells them about the previous timeline. Probably just sweep that under the rug and Mc will go “they ain’t so bad after all”
 
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I encourage everyone to read the LN, it's a good read although the plot is a bit simple.

Volume 1​

Volume 1 focuses on the FMC and MC getting together. When Amada (from now on POS) gathers his harem, they try to make the MC and Amada get along. The MC has no intention of doing so, realizes Amada was the mastermind behind his torment, and decides to openly wage war against him.

He counters every heroine (plus Tsukiyama, the best friend) individually. POS rushes his plan and tries to incriminate the MC early, but the MC—being big-brained—saw it coming and developed countermeasures, mainly swapping bags with Tsukiyama to ruin the setup. POS throws the heroines under the bus and tries to play innocent, but FMC exposes him; POS trying to punch her doesn't help his case either. POS then leaves the school due to "sickness."

The heroines are shamed and left alone, but the MC, being the good guy he is, helps them in different ways, forming a new group with them (except the heroine in the MC's class, who dips hard and stays with her new friend group; she will be referred to as Koro).

Volume 2​

A new heroine is introduced: a childhood friend who is also a famous VTuber (VTuber from now on), who transferred schools due to a stalker. Originally, the MC tries to help her and confides in her that POS is indeed a POS. She doesn't listen and reunites with POS instead. POS returns to school, apologizes to everyone, and heroines Glasses and Cow (the sporty one) join his side again.

The MC tries to help VTuber, thinking the stalker issue stems from an information leak at school involving FMC's friend—who is also a VTuber and allegedly sold out info to VTuber's stalker—but things don't add up. The MC runs into VTuber while shopping and sees her with the "stalker" who was apprehended in his first life. POS tells the MC he will change schools to avoid further conflict, but the MC realizes POS is plotting something with VTuber again. He figures the target is now the FMC: POS wants to frame her for leaking info to the stalker, force her to transfer, and then join her later to start their rom-com.

Things go almost as planned until POS shows his hand. The initial target was indeed the FMC, but when the MC took steps to disable the plan, POS pivoted and tried to use the MC's sister instead. POS claims that if the MC cuts all contact with FMC and FMC transfers, he won't release his evidence. However, this becomes moot when it's revealed Glasses and Cow never actually changed sides—they joined POS to help the MC and obtained evidence of the stalker talking normally with VTuber. POS once again dips on VTuber and gets beaten by the MC. VTuber finally realizes POS is a POS after he tries to woo her again once she is left alone.

It is revealed that Glasses is devoted to making the MC happy after she starts having dreams of what happened in the first life. She deeply regretted her past actions and was horrified by the consequences. In that timeline, she had asked POS to help the MC, but POS ignored her. She then avoided POS out of fear until she saw the MC on the roof and rushed to stop him—arriving too late. Seeing this, the FMC told Glasses to disappear. The FMC committed suicide three days later, and Glasses did the same a week after.

Volume 3​

This volume focuses on Tsukiyama being an absolute Bro (no Tsukiyama slander will be tolerated; the dude is a ride-or-die). In the past life, he actually tried to help the MC and never gave up on him. However, after being framed as arrogant and shallow, his popularity tanked and he was too ruined to help. His father owns a conglomerate that employs the MC's dad. Tsukiyama tried to introduce the MC to his father, but the MC was too hurt, and Tsukiyama was too inept to convey things properly. POS went to Tsukiyama's dad and lied, claiming the MC was bullying Tsukiyama, which got the MC's dad fired. When the MC's dad died in an accident, Tsukiyama tried once more to reach the MC, but the MC refused to listen, leaving Tsukiyama standing outside in the rain.

In the second/current life, the story focuses on Tsukiyama feeling lonely despite being surrounded by people. He regained his popularity, but he can't trust anyone since everyone abandoned him after the events of Volume 1. He tries to organize a study group at his house to introduce his friends (mainly the MC) to his father, but the MC—being his usual awkward self—refuses every time, making things uncomfortable.

Meanwhile, a subplot unfolds where Koro is harassed in the classroom by two guys. Another classmate takes the blame and blackmails Tsukiyama, threatening to tell his father that he is actually a loner. Tsukiyama tries to get the MC's attention by inviting him to study groups; when that fails, he tries antagonizing the MC and half-heartedly wooing the FMC. The MC uncovers the plot and reveals that Tsukiyama was intentionally acting out so everyone would hate him, allowing him to be left alone and stay with the MC's group where he felt appreciated. In the end, the blackmailing classmate is beaten up and handed over to VTuber as free manpower. Tsukiyama and the MC patch things up and become besties. Tsukiyama gets invited to meet the MC's family, proud that he can finally tell his dad he found a true friend.

Volume 4​

The beach episode. The MC, Bro, Cow, Glasses, FMC, and the MC's little sister go to Bro's father's mansion in Okinawa for summer vacation. Before leaving, the MC remembers another heroine who transferred at the start of the second semester in his past life: Hiromi. Hiromi was relentless, actively isolating and tormenting the MC; if anyone tried to befriend or speak to him, she would attack them. Apparently, the old POS gang met her in Okinawa during summer vacation, though details were kept vague as everyone avoided discussing that trip.

The MC asks around if anyone knows Hiromi. No one does except Glasses, who has an odd reaction. Once in Okinawa, the MC meets Hiromi at the beach, where she asks him to fake-date her for a couple of days to beat her sister. It is revealed that Hiromi has a twin sister, Yuki, whom the MC never met.

Glasses asks to speak with the MC alone. Later that night, they both reveal their suspicions that the other is a reincarnator. Glasses suspected it when the MC started asking about Hiromi; the MC suspected it when Glasses mentioned Shohei Ohtani being a Dodger instead of an Angel (which shouldn't happen for another year). Glasses sincerely apologizes to the MC, promising to do anything to atone for her past sins. The MC asks her to stay with him, says he has forgiven her, and deduces that she also committed suicide in the previous life. (From this point on, Glasses becomes quite aggressive with sexual innuendos toward the MC, offering to be his lover, mistress, or "convenient woman").

It is revealed that Yuki will die in a couple of days. Glasses doesn't know the cause of death, but her death in the original timeline was the reason no one talked about the Okinawa trip. The gang sets up Bro and Hiromi as a fake couple to fool Yuki so Hiromi can get her "win."

Five years prior, Hiromi and POS met; she fell for him, and they made a promise to date if neither had feelings for anyone else (a promise POS never intended to keep, as he was obsessed with making FMC his heroine). Hiromi suffers from a massive inferiority complex toward Yuki, who excels at everything. Yuki sees through the gang's plot but plays along so she and her sister can reconcile.

Things seem resolved until the MC realizes at the last minute that the person he knew as "Hiromi" in his past life was actually Yuki—the real Hiromi was the one who died. Hiromi died searching for a legendary beach flower that grants a wish if picked on a specific date. The MC realizes the switch happened on that exact day during a violent storm. The MC rushes out to save Hiromi, and Bro joins him without hesitation. They find her just in time and save her from a wave—the exact way she died in the original timeline.

Glasses and Yuki arrive, and the full truth comes out: Hiromi wanted to beat her sister, but her true motive was to mend Yuki's relationship with their parents. Yuki was heavily doted on while Hiromi was ignored, making Yuki a major sistercon who resented their parents for hurting Hiromi. When Hiromi learned POS liked someone else, she sought the flower to get a boyfriend, beat her sister at something, fix her family, and help Yuki become independent. When Hiromi drowned, Yuki found only her phone and sandals on the beach. There, she met POS, who revealed everything. (POS had met Hiromi in Okinawa, despised her, but preferred Yuki—so he engineered events to get Hiromi killed and claim Yuki for his harem). Mad with grief, Yuki took Hiromi's identity, deciding to love POS as Hiromi did before "joining her sister," becoming the relentless force at POS's side in the past life.

With everything cleared up, the MC cheers them both up by endlessly flattering Hiromi and roasting Yuki. Bro joins in, delivering heavy blows to Yuki's ego. Furious, Yuki becomes obsessed with Tsukiyama, determined to prove him wrong. Hiromi joins the "losing heroine" group (hinting she likes the MC, though she won't challenge FMC, agreeing with Glasses to be a "convenient woman").

The volume ends with both twins transferring to the MC's hometown and tricking POS into revealing his hand. Yuki turns out to be a massive man-hater who despises POS, while Hiromi rejects POS, stating she already likes someone else. POS is left fuming that a "secondary heroine" turned him down, muttering that he only has one useful puppet left.

Things are heavily, heavily compressed here so if anyone has questions, ill do my best to solve them.
 
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from what I've heard in pretty detailed spoilers here, Kazuki will discover that Amada is the real mastermind behind everything awful that happened to him, he's a sociopath who thinks himself as a romcom protagonist so everything he does is justified, and he used their love to manipulate his harem into framing Kazuki out of jealousy for a mere mob daring to steal the main girl from him, the protagonist. Realizing that Kazuki ruins the social life of all of Kazuki's harem and even his rich best friend, and when Amada tries to pull the whole "framing planting nude pics on his phone" from the past timeline again, Kazuki had a countermeasure and expose Amada for what he really is, his entire harem gets heartbroken seeing what a POS he is, and the entire school starts hating him, so he stops coming to school. Apparently in volume 2 of the LN Amada returns after having his delusions restored by a girl who comes out of nowhere madly in live with him, and tries a new move framing Hidaka so she's forced to change school sonhe can transfer to the same school as her, but the plan ultimately backfire and he once again ends up alone after breaking the heart of the one girl who still liked him and his harem revealing they played with his feelings pretending to come back to him to discover what he was scheming and protect Kazuki from him (also I've heard that Amada gets quite the beating from a guy he tried to frame as a stalker)
So basically no, the punishment they get is not even close to what the mc went through in the past timeline
 
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Why does the MC react with the "he's so good natured" when the romcom protag dude says he'll be the last ally of someone in the wrong? Doesn't he have first-hand evidence that's a lie?

MY FIRST THOUGHT EXACTLY !!!

Like WTF, BRO !? Did he already forgot how that c*nt throw him under the bus without even hearing his side first !? If anything, he should remember that nearly everybody in this school are fake ass bitches just waiting for an excuse to bully him !!
 
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So basically no, the punishment they get is not even close to what the mc went through in the past timeline
Yeah, basically most of them got off the hook kinda easily with minimal consequences with the excuse that they were just used by Amada, never meant for things to escalate this much and seriously regretted what they did and tried to compensate the MC (the rich guy for example, it was later revealed that after the mc father died, he came hundreds of times to the mc house begging forgiveness and promising to use his father's fortune to sustain and protect his family to atone for his mistake, but the mc denied). While Amada despite definitely getting on a similar situation that the MC was, losing everyone, becoming hated and dropping off school, nobody from his family died, so he's definitely not as bad as MC, but i get why it happens, as the author probably didn't wanted the MC to get blood on his hands, specially from uninvolved people lile Amada's family, so he did Amada suffer the same fate as MC as good as he could without killing anyone
 
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Why does the MC react with the "he's so good natured" when the romcom protag dude says he'll be the last ally of someone in the wrong? Doesn't he have first-hand evidence that's a lie?
Exactly, not only did he refuse to hear him out in the first place, he didn't lift a finger when the whole school made a punching bag out of him. This is especially egregious because it would not take someone particularily good natured to recognize it as an unfair and arbitrary punishment, even if he were guilty as charged. In fact, everyone in that school save the heroine is just messed up beyond justification. Knowing what happened to his family, they still had not an ounce of pity neither for them nor him and just wanted to see him go splat. That's just inhuman, even if they really held a grudge (and in reality it was just a convenient excuse to lay down abuse).

Taking this into account, his entire approach to lay low and hope for the best is just too risky. He himself earlier said that these guys would do anything out of jealousy. Rather than walking on eggshells for the rest of his school days, he should be looking for ways to neutralize their ability to harm him and his family, starting with the rich kid that got his father fired.
 
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Starting to get tired of the past life main protagonist. Let's see how this develops
 
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The entire plot suffers from severe whiplash because the MC acts far too passively for someone who knows his entire family died and that he suffered enough anguish to eventually take his own life.

The moment he realized there was even a 1% chance of this happening, you’d think he would beg his parents for a school transfer, switch to homeschooling, or do EVERYTHING in his power to avoid the people and circumstances that caused such a tragic outcome. Instead, he treats what happened like just another weekly annoyance that he wants to avoid.

I know there wouldn't be much of a story if he acted the way he should, but that makes the story a bit frustrating to read at times.
He doesn't have enough information. Keep in mind that he can't just uproot his family. That his family died due to the actions of the girl. He doesn't know the actions of amada. He doesn't know how everything happened. He just knows his life spiraled down the toilet with his whole family dieing. He doesn't even know how deep things happened he only knows for certain that it happened because he was close to amada. When he figures out things he and mikoto start working to alienate amada.
 

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