Kyou wa Kanojo ga Inai kara - Ch. 41 - Relationship Theater

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@UdenEmpati Has a history of getting a bit TOO invested in the stories they read. Don't take it personally, it's just how they are.

You learn to get used to it.

Is it better to be direct with discourse about a series, or be overly passive-aggressive while claiming some vague moral high-ground like someone's keeping score?

Especially when said series has a history of readers appearing to repeatedly miss the actual dynamic at play between characters in a narrative to vilify one to the point of hyperbole, no less.

Do you want to actually have a discussion, or just tag me in response to someone else after inserting yourself and pretend it doesn't read like silly high school hallway gossip?
 
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Is it better to be direct with discourse about a series, or be overly passive-aggressive while claiming some vague moral high-ground like someone's keeping score?

Especially when said series has a history of readers appearing to repeatedly miss the actual dynamic at play between characters in a narrative to vilify one to the point of hyperbole, no less.

Do you want to actually have a discussion, or just tag me in response to someone else after inserting yourself and pretend it doesn't read like silly high school hallway gossip?
Relax, I mean no insult. I think your discussions are very well written and thought provoking.

Way better, and more involved than the usual "LOL TIDDIES" crap I usually see in most threads.
 
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I hope Yuni gets hurt so much that she will never be in a relationship anymore! FUCK HER! :shamihuh:

Gaslithing her girlfriend, she who literally cheats and gets caught! FUCK HER!

I hope Nanase finally opens her eyes and dumps this BITCH!
Atleast with this they r gonna go there separate ways until the author wants more cheating again. And then they will get back together
 
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It's honestly quite sad how their relationship progressed. Yuni needed Nanase but she doesn't show up in the way Yuni needs her. This, in a way, is Nanase fumbling the bag big time. Sort of like picking the wrong choices for a hard-to-maintain heroine in a VN.

This doesn't justify Yuni cheating and doing all these horrendous stuff, but if you put yourself in her shoes from chapter 1 to now, it's definitely all reasonable within Yuni's immature mind.

If it wasn't obvious, I'm a Nanase hater. :bleh:

We need moar drama.
 
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Also dang is yuni a terrible person. She thinks nanase is more sad about yuki then when she was cheating on her. Nanase was about to quit volleyball for her. Just bad man

Actually, interesting point - she considered it for a moment and then decided on her own that she wouldn't, during her definitely-not-a-date at the amusement park with Yuki in chapter 18. (The very date that Yuni wanted with her, in fact, but that she turned down because of her foot injury and how she thought it would make it unfun.)

And a not-small part of the reason why was because of Yuki, herself.
 
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That's just because we've gotten no tiddies in this series since volume 3
The day discussion on this series becomes isekai story comment spam is the day I drop this.

So many times in other stories, I wanna discuss the story and theories, but everyone is just going "BOOOBAAA!!!"
 
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Actually, interesting point - she considered it for a moment and then decided on her own that she wouldn't, during her definitely-not-a-date at the amusement park with Yuki in chapter 18. (The very date that Yuni wanted with her, in fact, but that she turned down because of her foot injury and how she thought it would make it unfun.)

And a not-small part of the reason why was because of Yuki, herself.
Wait is this after yuni was cheating and belittling nanase right in front her?? Am I missing something??
 
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Wait is this after yuni was cheating and belittling nanase right in front her?? Am I missing something??

Considering Yuni slept with Fuuko in chapters 10 & 11, I do not think you are in that sense.

You'll have to be more specific in what you mean by "belittling Nanase right in front of her", though; what chapter/incident are you referring to?
 
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Considering Yuni slept with Fuuko in chapters 10 & 11, I do not think you are in that sense.

You'll have to be more specific in what you mean by "belittling Nanase right in front of her", though; what chapter/incident are you referring to?
The chapter right before lol. Look people will make excuses for yuni but for me. Both yuni and fuuko domt deserve a happy ending after chapter 17. But again this author likes toxic cheating so she will probably keep nanase together with yuni for a little longer haha
 
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Yuni's whole don't abandon your friend spiel seemed to be a roundabout acknowledgement that she doesn't want Nanase. If only either of them noticed.
They need to break up so badly but they both have baggage keeping them together in Yuni's desperate loneliness and Nanase's perfunctory feelings of obligation and doing things right. It's kind of an interesting inversion of a normal getting together yuri where the MCs are so obviously going to date but have to wade through emotional and interpersonal bullshit to get there.
 
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The chapter right before lol. Look people will make excuses for yuni but for me. Both yuni and fuuko domt deserve a happy ending after chapter 17. But again this author likes toxic cheating so she will probably keep nanase together with yuni for a little longer haha

I mean, I'm not defending or making excuses for Yuni either, nor have I in previous chapters. She's absolutely toxic, and Fuuko has a whole host of stuff going on that doesn't absolve her of what she's done where Yuni and Nanase are concerned.

I was just pointing out that your statement about Nanase and giving up Volleyball for Yuni wasn't as straightforward or benign as you presented it, particularly with the subtext of you appearing to absolve Nanase through your framing.
 
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Honestly, why are they still together? Nanase is telling her girlfriend about something deeply personnal and intimate and all she can think is "man, this is so boring" and then proceed to gaslight her that she should go see Fuuko, the one she CHEATED with. How selfish can she be? Like she could have just break up with Nanase and go love Fuuko all day everyday and this manga would been much shorter instead of dragging on endlessly. Now, even if Yuni doesn't ends up with Fuuko and became alone, I wouldn't feel bad about her.
The problem is that Nanase is talking about something that is not about her. Yuni is so self absorbed that she doesn’t give a shit about anything that is not directly about her.
 
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Nanase has been emotionally cheating on Yuni with Yuki. Even if nothing physical happened, it's clear Nanase is far more invested in her friend than her girlfriend. That's why it's hypocritical of her to try and stop Yuni from helping Fuuko, even though Yuni tolerates Yuki.
Nanase has a friend who is not Yuni. That’s it. Calling that emotionally cheating is pretty wierd!
 
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Nanase has a friend who is not Yuni. That’s it. Calling that emotionally cheating is pretty wierd!
It is only to people that love toxicity, but the author wrote yuni to be the most difficult girl in the whole manga.
 
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NGL it looks like it's winding down/reaching its climax soon. We have the OTPs solidifying, them understanding their own feelings better, the cheating is more exposed, etc. I sense a dozen or so more chapters of drama and then a pretty decent ending where everyone is happy.
 
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Nanase has a friend who is not Yuni. That’s it. Calling that emotionally cheating is pretty wierd!

Nanase also has a recurring habit of doing all of the things that Yuni wanted to do with her, with Yuki, and/or including Yuki in things that she does do with Yuni. Nanase effectively treated Yuki like a girlfriend more than she did Yuni in the majority of situations and incidents that we are shown throughout the series; Yuni's whole issue is that she is Nanase's girlfriend, but Nanase spares more emotional and mental bandwidth for her "friend" than for her.
You could argue it was unwitting on Nanase's part, but that's also a problem; we saw last chapter that she has a long-held habit of just not paying attention to things that aren't actually important to her in the moment, like how her best and closest friendship went back multiple years further than she assumed. She forgets Yuni more than once, and allows herself to be pulled around by Yuki or by volleyball or by her friendgroup at the expense of the person she wants to be her girlfriend. I'd argue she absolutely is emotionally cheating on Yuni with Yuki, and has been since the start of the series. Her being unaware of this, isn't an excuse on her part, just like Yuni's choice to repeatedly seek out Fuuko due to her frustrations with Nanase aren't excused by Nanase's negligence of her when she could have talked to Nanase—something ironically paralled in her parting 'advice' to Nanase in this very chapter.

Yuni's a deeply flawed character who made bad decisions through the series, but they are informed by what Nanase, and then Fuuko, and then Yuki do, as well. You don't have to like or condone her actions, and I'd argue you're not supposed to even within the context of the plot as it's presented. But it is far, far less simple than you're painting it to be.
 

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