Kimi wa Yotsuba no Clover - Vol. 12 Ch. 99

[MangaDex]

 

[charlie987]

I think if your plot ever gets to the point where you need to depict a 7 year old committing suicide you should probably get some therapy.

 

[dcdfvr]

GO Uichi GO

why is this the thought that crosses your mind. shouldn't your intellectual curiosity in regards to your research want to know more instead of trying to stop him

 

[itskenny9031]

GO Uichi GO

why is this the thought that crosses your mind. shouldn't your intellectual curiosity in regards to your research want to know more instead of trying to stop him

Because she's still ultimately the same person she was before, the difference is because her dad didn't die she's able to do good despite still being self serving deep down. Her care for herself trumps that of her intellectual curiosity. Her life is a facade, a lie built in order to be 'liked' by others, she says as much a few chapters back.

 

[NotteBoy97]

Bullshit how the fuck is her father still alive. There's no world where the Devil Witch of a Mom wouldn't milk Yosuba's death to have the father experience mind breaking levels of despair. Like author you do realize this just makes Futaba objectively right about her cope of Yotsuba dying making everything better which is like just a fucked up thing to do. You can have a lot of people happier in this timeline without Futaba making everyone the worst but Futaba herself probably shouldn't be one of those happy people. Cause the reasons for her despair isn't actually connected to Yotsuba directly so all removing her should just make her aimless or suicide.

 

[Superbro64]

This chapter does kinda soft confirm two things, 1) That Futatsugi is kinda self-interested in the "good timeline" future (I wouldn't go as far to say that she's malicious, but her father's parenting clearly shows the bad qualities in her inner monologue)
and 2) that Futatsugi's dad somehow got away from Evil Monster Mom scott-free despite the earlier reveal that he was so love sick after their affair that his "love" for his daughter is fake (and technically still is fake in the timeline), so I guess Yotsuha's Mom got bored or something and found a new fixation to latch onto and screw with I guess?

I can already see the signs of a messily written ending showing up here; like it's pretty evident that the larger ramifications of this timeline aren't shown because the author is not giving enough time to actually think through how this stuff would play out

 

[Friendly-Sentence710]

See? You guys didn't believe me, but I fixed her.

 

[Kaito57]

Even in a world with her Father alive, Futaba is still an freaking snake in the grass !!

 

[Knighto]

Even in a world with her Father alive, Futaba is still an freaking snake in the grass !!

yes, and pretty much this Uichi that wanted to stay away from her, is the one I want to see by the end of the series... because she was always a psychopath, she only moves so she can be viewed by society as "normal".

Bullshit how the fuck is her father still alive. There's no world where the Devil Witch of a Mom wouldn't milk Yosuba's death to have the father experience mind breaking levels of despair. Like author you do realize this just makes Futaba objectively right about her cope of Yotsuba dying making everything better which is like just a fucked up thing to do. You can have a lot of people happier in this timeline without Futaba making everyone the worst but Futaba herself probably shouldn't be one of those happy people. Cause the reasons for her despair isn't actually connected to Yotsuba directly so all removing her should just make her aimless or suicide.

This chapter does kinda soft confirm two things, 1) That Futatsugi is kinda self-interested in the "good timeline" future (I wouldn't go as far to say that she's malicious, but her father's parenting clearly shows the bad qualities in her inner monologue)
and 2) that Futatsugi's dad somehow got away from Evil Monster Mom scott-free despite the earlier reveal that he was so love sick after their affair that his "love" for his daughter is fake (and technically still is fake in the timeline), so I guess Yotsuha's Mom got bored or something and found a new fixation to latch onto and screw with I guess?

I can already see the signs of a messily written ending showing up here; like it's pretty evident that the larger ramifications of this timeline aren't shown because the author is not giving enough time to actually think through how this stuff would play out

yep, we can see the writing is falling here, but in the OG timeline the dad discovered by himself that he had Yotsuha, the thing is without her in the picture, even if he loved Kazuha, bro loves more to be seen as a genius by society, if there's no kid, he can brush it off and he wouldn't lose funding and lose his career and that was clearly what mattered the most to him.
Also as Superbro mentions, the Mom probably found a new fixation or just continued to destroy her son, Mitsuha clearly looks like the broken version from the main timeline.
But yes, author really forced that without Yotsuha, the mother magically stopped caring about f*cking with Futaba's dad for her amusement.

 

[Mitsu13]

Bullshit how the fuck is her father still alive. There's no world where the Devil Witch of a Mom wouldn't milk Yosuba's death to have the father experience mind breaking levels of despair. Like author you do realize this just makes Futaba objectively right about her cope of Yotsuba dying making everything better which is like just a fucked up thing to do. You can have a lot of people happier in this timeline without Futaba making everyone the worst but Futaba herself probably shouldn't be one of those happy people. Cause the reasons for her despair isn't actually connected to Yotsuba directly so all removing her should just make her aimless or suicide.

Because there is no proof that Yotsuha is his daughter. In the original timeline, Kazuha used Yotsuha's hair to get her DNA and also took her picture.
https://mangadex.org/chapter/9fcdf73b-ba5e-47d7-8c21-7805cc298187/4

Since Yotsuha died, how can she prove her existence and her connection to him? Most likely Kazuha just abandoned the whole scheme when she knew Yotsuha died and focused on other people. He is just one in a thousand people to her, not anyone important at all.

 

[Mitsu13]

yep, we can see the writing is falling here, but in the OG timeline the dad discovered by himself that he had Yotsuha, the thing is without her in the picture, even if he loved Kazuha, bro loves more to be seen as a genius by society, if there's no kid, he can brush it off and he wouldn't lose funding and lose his career and that was clearly what mattered the most to him.
Also as Superbro mentions, the Mom probably found a new fixation or just continued to destroy her son, Mitsuha clearly looks like the broken version from the main timeline.
But yes, author really forced that without Yotsuha, the mother magically stopped caring about f*cking with Futaba's dad for her amusement.

Not by himself, though? Kazuha came to him and showed Yotsuha's DNA results and her connection to him.
https://mangadex.org/chapter/9fcdf73b-ba5e-47d7-8c21-7805cc298187/4
https://mangadex.org/chapter/25d504f1-a4c7-4ba8-b1bd-2479989dd907/17
https://mangadex.org/chapter/e0281c84-c75e-4f5b-8f19-1d40c2372e7d/1

He is afraid she will tell people about his infidelity, but with Yotsuha dead, what is there to show? No DNA results, no pictures, nothing. To Kazuha he is just one of many, so she most likely just abandoned the whole scheme when it failed. There are more people to torture.

 

[Knighto]

Not by himself, though? Kazuha came to him and showed Yotsuha's DNA results and her connection to him.
https://mangadex.org/chapter/9fcdf73b-ba5e-47d7-8c21-7805cc298187/4
https://mangadex.org/chapter/25d504f1-a4c7-4ba8-b1bd-2479989dd907/17
https://mangadex.org/chapter/e0281c84-c75e-4f5b-8f19-1d40c2372e7d/1

He is afraid she will tell people about his infidelity, but with Yotsuha dead, what is there to show? No DNA results, no pictures, nothing. To Kazuha he is just one of many, so she most likely just abandoned the whole scheme when it failed. There are more people to torture.

you're right... I got confused by a previous chapter, that I forgot his own confession, Kazuha mentioned that she didn't show him her daughter yet. (so thanks for adding the links)
https://mangadex.org/chapter/4831a279-0efd-4d95-a294-649fb1e210ee/13
about the second point, yes we can agree, and she took the hair from Yotsuha after she recovered her from the orphanage, so that's why I would say that was kinda forced, Kazuha is a POS, but she's no dumb, she had a daughter, she would probably have some evidence from birthing to still show, that's why I mention she magically stop to care about them.

 

[Superbro64]

Like author you do realize this just makes Futaba objectively right about her cope of Yotsuba dying making everything better which is like just a fucked up thing to do.

This is an important point that I want to emphasize myself. We all know this is a manga and a fictional story, but there's kinda a reason why you don't actually pull the "Not only did I go through with ending my own life, but my (incorrect on all fronts btw) assertions that everyone's life would be better if I wasn't here" plot point event horizon. Like, that stuff has real world ramifications for folks who struggle with that
Shame on you (author-san)

 

[Superbro64]

Since Yotsuha died, how can she prove her existence and her connection to him?

Not a direct answer to this, but as referenced in my comment, if you read ch 91 pgs 12-15, Prof. Futatsugi is clearly infatuated with Evil Mom to the point of making very questionable decisions. Even with Yotsuha dead (in the good future timeline) I heavily doubt that Evil Mom wouldn't just sus out Bad Dad's love for her to get him to do even crazier stuff; she's quite sharp and very keen to just ruin people's live for her own amusement.

Also, if this did happen in the good timeline, this would reiterate the counter to Futatsugi's core argument: the issue plaguing her life and the lives of everyone wasn't ever Yotsuha, it was her Evil mom making things worse for kicks. In a timeline where Yotsuha did what Futatsugi said and ended her life, Futatsugi would not get what she want because she wasn't focused on the actual source of her problem. (As an aside, she was focused on the wrong person because, again, she reinterpreted her Bad dad's will because her Bad dad was Bad and raised her wrong)

But, as we can all see here, that did not in fact happen because author-san is not putting enough thought into the core elements of this story as they did when they started. Write yourself into a corner, you make a mess to get yourself out

 

[ReasonableSuspicion]

How does she know about Uichi and Yotsuha's relationship from the original timeline?

 

[hiidenkiuas]

How does she know about Uichi and Yotsuha's relationship from the original timeline?

Yeah like in this timeline she just genuinely hallucinated that and was somehow completely right, it doesn’t make any sense

 

[Xalphire]

Even in another timeline she's still a manipulative little shit, huh.

 

[JeezyHungry]

Shit, it's the devil herself

 

[Electro_Ninja26]

Shit, it's the devil herself

The devil is the mom tbh.

This one’s just a larper.