Kimi wa Yotsuba no Clover - Ch. 105

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I actually like that they didn’t make innocent child timeline Futaba suffer for the sins of a Futaba that was never her. A large part of the plot was driven by revenge, so a proper resolution is one that lies outside of that cycle of sadism and revenge, such that that cycle never cycles again (ie is resolved).
 
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Firstly, thanks to the scanlation team for the massive chapter drop. As for how the story is developing, it at least seems to be going for a happy ending, but I'm not sure it feels to be gappeneing a bit to quick and easy. I lile the message behind it tho. Since the next chapter is the last, I hope the resolution with Yotsubas mother is satisfying.
 
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It kinda seems like the clover only lets you time travel with the goal of protecting someone else's happiness.
Who said anything about using the clover? You can have an even older version of Futaba who does it with technology.
But if you want to keep using the clover, then just have her think about protecting her dad's happiness.
 
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Damn, you guys really released all the remaining chapters EXCEPTED the last one lol

Well, can't wait to see how will Uichi save the day... !!
 
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At first i love this manga, and just as i expected from the start, i suspect is either her mom, brother, or Futaba is the villain. After 90+ chapter, this beautiful manga got an anime adaptation. But after Uichi time leap to Elementary School, it feels like to rushed and I really didn't like the ending that much and must give this manga from 10/10 to 9/10 cause the ending (already saw it from tl indo). But this manga really great especially for new gen manga. I hope Koushi-Sensei will make another good manga again, well see you in the next chapter
 
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Thank you for the translation. :)

I still don't like that "father", he is bad person, perfect match with yotsuha's mom. That's why they produce yotsuha in just one shot.
 
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I am overall very satisfied with the direction things are heading. Thank you for the translation.
 
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Not as bad as I feared, but I'm still disappointed by the ending so far. Feels like a lot of deep rooted issues are being solved just by one talk with the person, which feels incongruous with the rest of the series. Also, I kind of liked the idea that Futaba WAS incompetent in some ways, but, no, we're just getting her being a super genius again without addressing her flaws.
I disagree in part, I think that the issues are still there, but just the knowledge that someone is going to be there no matter what even after knowing a darker truth means that they aren't going to make drastic measures.
 
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wow I can’t believe they helped the mastermind that ruined their lives. Should have let her rot.

Also the method of time travel is incredibly stupid. How many random people have had their wishes granted or time traveled to fuck up the time line if all you need if a four leaf clover and to say pwetty pwease? If there was more than one chapter left I’d assume the main villainess lady was a time traveler.
 
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now that I finally read all, I still don't like the ending, it turned all in one big talk no jutsu finale. Futaba learning the truth, pretty much 2-3 years before her actually learning the truth when her dad su!cides, we could have gotten at least another chapter, like how Uichi helped Yotsuha, make a chapter of Yotsuha trying to save Futaba in a one to one conversation, while her dark thoughts start to appear, because we know her "superior" mind would go for mass k!llings to solve her problems.
I can give props to how Uichi pulled the uno reverse with Yotsuha in saving her from the dark thoughts like how she saved him at the start, that was genuinely nice by the author, still the rest was super rushed.

wow I can’t believe they helped the mastermind that ruined their lives. Should have let her rot.

Also the method of time travel is incredibly stupid. How many random people have had their wishes granted or time traveled to fuck up the time line if all you need if a four leaf clover and to say pwetty pwease? If there was more than one chapter left I’d assume the main villainess lady was a time traveler.
the thing is ... author probably pondered to make it sci-fi (the watch was the time traveling device) or fantasy (what we got with the clover), so by the end author went with the easier choice to make it work for Uichi to time travel.

Who said anything about using the clover? You can have an even older version of Futaba who does it with technology.
But if you want to keep using the clover, then just have her think about protecting her dad's happiness.
yes, but you know if we got that the time traveling device was made by a Futaba in the future that realized that revenge was never the answer and felt like crap from pushing Uichi (completely innocent on this sh!t) k!ll himself and destroy the life of the only person that was her friend (yotsuha was also innocent but she was related to the main villain), that would have gave us a redemption from seeing that after all this crap Futaba wasn't fully evil, but in Uichi without Yotsuha timeline she still was wearing her mask to fix on society and she was doubtful if Uichi time traveled he could mess with her own future, like a comment made in ch.99, her thirst for knowledge wasn't as big as her self-interest.
 
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It feels rushed because it's missing a small redemption arc / chapter or two for Futaba Futatsugi.
It could've happened in the original timeline (e.g. she shows immense regret for pushing them to the brink - hollowness of revenge), or in the no-Yotsuha timeline (e.g. she actively helps Uichi remembers Yotsuha - Uichi really needed to be shown to work for those memories.)

Anyways, thanks to TL team! Would've been agonising to read each chapter 1 by 1 during the depression part!
I agree with this, particularly if the regret for pushing to the brink went along with realizing Yotsuha and Uichi were her only real friends. Though what I think would also work would be showing Uichi and Yotsuha wavering on their decision with Futaba at least a little, to actively show their reasoning.
I don't know, in general I would have preferred slightly more initial pushback and conflict from Futaba or her parents so that the resolution felt more earned. Something like Dad refusing to accept that Kazuha could be evil and saying they just need to meet her herself for example....
Though really the quick fix in these two chapters might have been more acceptable if only the upcoming defeat of Kazuha took longer than one chapter. Like that's the thing that's supposed to be hard.

wow I can’t believe they helped the mastermind that ruined their lives. Should have let her rot.

Also the method of time travel is incredibly stupid. How many random people have had their wishes granted or time traveled to fuck up the time line if all you need if a four leaf clover and to say pwetty pwease? If there was more than one chapter left I’d assume the main villainess lady was a time traveler.
The time travel method is extremely location-specific though. It's performing a ritual for a god using an object from the vicinity of their shrine and presumably the wish also has to be made within a certain distance of the god's domain, which would stop too many random people from being able to happen upon it.
 
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make a chapter of Yotsuha trying to save Futaba in a one to one conversation, while her dark thoughts start to appear, because we know her "superior" mind would go for mass k!llings to solve her problems.
While I still think that Futaba's violent tendencies are a result of the trauma rather than inherent, you saying this makes me realize that if she did jump straight to the violent answer, with the full story and a still alive Kazuha, all that cunning and killer urges could get redirected to the one person who actually deserves it. That would pretty fun to see. Especially if it wasn't as easy to convince Dad about Kazuha (since usually it's not easy to convince people about their cult leaders...)
 
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While I still think that Futaba's violent tendencies are a result of the trauma rather than inherent, you saying this makes me realize that if she did jump straight to the violent answer, with the full story and a still alive Kazuha, all that cunning and killer urges could get redirected to the one person who actually deserves it. That would pretty fun to see. Especially if it wasn't as easy to convince Dad about Kazuha (since usually it's not easy to convince people about their cult leaders...)
at least as a joke first
futaba: "what if we k!ll Kazuha before he reveals my dad infidelity?"
uichi and yotsuba scared af
futaba: "it was just a joke, jeez😅"...unless:smugnako:
 
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I think lots of comments really missed the point of psychology in the first place.

Psychology is not absolute real science. It's as scientific as communication or politics. It's all statistics and vibes. In short, it's all boiled down to perceptions and whatnot.

Sure, in some cases, talking alone is really not enough to solve some things. However, talking no jutsu did solve many relationship problems and yes, it can be just like that.

In this manga's case, the problem of Futatsugis is that they don't convey this to each other because i presume it's a scary thing to be opened up. The dad doesn't feel good about himself, the mom doesn't feel good about her child, and the child eventually got the short end of it and lashed it out to other people.

But here's the thing, once the masks are off and they're still being shown to care about each other, the thing that holds the family back dissipates and just like that, they're in a better state.


You lots need to realize that yes in some cases, people need more than just talking to overcome their own hurdles. But honestly, for the majority of cases, they just need someone to talk to or hell, someone who cares.

That's my TED talk. Thenks.
 

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