Isekai ni Kita kedo, Seikatsu Mahou shika Tsukaemasen - Ch. 10

[Pinnaclen]

how has no deranged peasant fuck not tasted seawater and tried boiling copius amounts of it, or discovered a natural salt flat somewhere.

sea water tastes salty. is surprised when told it contains salt.
actually, you dont need a lot of seawater to discover the trace amounts of minerals in it. (just leave a cup of sea water out for a few days and natural evaporation will leave a fair distinct and thin ring of salt at the old water line)
this is a stupid point and it is possible to rant for hours on why its stupid, so i digress

 

[Pinnaclen]

Maybe rock salts are far more plentiful and accessible that people of this world didn't bother searching for salt in other places like the sea for instance.

you forget the existence of crazy people who research things for shits and giggles and not profitability. ie mad barons and research scientists. I suppose the author did too ig

 

[Pinnaclen]

You know for all the people saying how dumb this plot point is, at least you gotta admit it’s original. She isn’t an isekaid person inventing soap for the bazillionth time

she doesnt need to cuz daily life magic makes it unnecessary, but I bet she will eventually as gifts for friends or some shit like that.

 

[finalm]

To be fair, no one will know about it if no one teach us, even in modern times. Ancient times plays a role as well, people are scared to experiment due to budget, or angering those in power who can seize their hard work. While those with budget see no point in investing something with unknown result.
Or for the joke, I can picture uneducated kids with access to net screaming SEA SALT IS A SCAM any day now.

Extra thing to note, sea salt need more than painstakingly evaporation process before it is safe to use, as the salt still carry impurities from the sea. A little is fine, but not for everyday consumption.

Proper education to build a basic logical critical thinking is important no matter what, this chapter showed even royalties are flawed in this matter.

That outlook is just not true in general. People were just as willing to experiment in the past as they are now, maybe even more so. Especially since we're talking about things vital for survival, have you any idea how many ways the avarage peasant came up with to squeeze every last calorie out of anything available to him? Even if something was illegal for some reason, like hunting game, for example, that hardly stopped people when famine rolled up, which before the enlightenment was once every few years or just every time there was an armed conflict.

 

[Vermula]

Don't other isekais usually focus on either filtration of salt or pepper also? It feels like the author for this series really didn't do much research, even superficial research, on this topic.

(NGL tho I'm not too surprised considering she opens the light novel up with stating Patience is ...not safe around little boys and that's why she's so obsessed with her new little brothers. (I have never refunded something so fast, that was in like the first 5 pages).

So the author has some strange ideas about what could make this series compelling or interesting at times.

I can only imagine the script writer & editor for this adaptation was like

What.

BC it thankfully has ZERO mention in the manga.)

Wait, please tell me I'm understanding very incorrectly. Is she a straight up pedo in the LN? That kind of "not safe"?

 

[N2O]

suspending my disbeliefsuspending my disbeliefsuspending my disbeliefsuspending my disbeliefsuspending my disbeliefsuspending my disbeliefsuspending my disbeliefsuspending my disbeliefsuspending my disbelief

 

[mimuro]

I just really love how they draw the hair and outfits in this manga, i don't know why

 

[riflow]

Wait, please tell me I'm understanding very incorrectly. Is she a straight up pedo in the LN? That kind of "not safe"?

Yeah from what I understand, I noped out too fast to see more detail in the ln though. The author wrote it in softer language but I was like...oh no...🥲

I've never been more relieved to see refunds aren't that difficult to get for some platforms BC I had loved the manga so much I went to go read the officially translated lns (and that they explicitly removed that element from the manga).

Edit: {discount the second half of the paragraph down below since someone who has read the light novel more confirmed it does not get better.}

I really don't know what the author was thinking BC there was zero good reasons for that detail. And I assume it doesn't come up again.. so it's like why??

 

[Tahvohck]

How the f had nobody ever boiled sea water before?

How the fuck the sea salt farming never really took off, especially from a country that has access to sea? Even in our world, it was already existed from 6000 BC through archeological findings.

The world has always naturaly provided sea water evaporation spots (man and nature made manufactured ones are called marais salants in french, dunno word in english).

People ignoring that sea provide salt is basically imposible.

That country surrounded by other countries may not know about sea salt? yes, maybe, their spy network is basically rubbish tho.

That a country that has access to sea not know sea salt?

No.
NO.
NOOOO.

Crap... a salt water plot point thats so annoying its gonna make this harder to read.

I get some people being ignorant of sea salt if the region they live in happen to be so abundant with salt mines, but sea salt not been discovered before ever is just hard to believe....

and at this point I should stop tagging people lmao

anyway if this keeps up we're going to have to deal with the fact that the author of the light/web novels is clearly DEEPLY incurious about the world and rarely goes past the "huh I wonder how people used to do X thing" stage of thinking about the past, and instead settles for "well they were idiots so clearly they didn't actually know about this". SO OFTEN Patience's solutions to things are mind-bogglingly stupid if you actually know anything about the topic. And she of course passes all her classes by doing a single thing really well (herbology year one is literally just GROW ONE PLANT. Year two is GROW ONE NEW PLANT. YEAR THREE IS-). I genuinely do not know why the author wrote the story in a school setting when they so clearly don't want to write about school.

What killed me and got me to drop the novels was

Spoiler

when she wants to make rubber for bicycle tires, and oh we have slime powder (which no one ever has thought to use to make springy cushions with until her) but oh bike tire rubber is black. So the slime needs to be black. So we'll add charcoal to the slime and do literally nothing else. THAT IS NOT HOW RUBBER WORKS.

But. The faces in this manga are good... so I guess I'll suffer through it for a bit more.

 

[Tahvohck]

(NGL tho I'm not too surprised considering she opens the light novel up with stating Patience is ...not safe around little boys and that's why she's so obsessed with her new little brothers. (I have never refunded something so fast, that was in like the first 5 pages).

Plus @Vermula
It never got any better. Another reason why I dropped it. "Oh I'm not THAT kind of shotacon don't worry" like five times a book as she leers at kids. "Oh but this <adult man> isn't my type". Etc. And it would be one thing if the story was trying to say "she's in a kid body now, she's got kid attractions again", but NOPE. Plays it completely straight.

 

[Tahvohck]

you forget the existence of crazy people who research things for shits and giggles and not profitability. ie mad barons and research scientists. I suppose the author did too ig

Bad news: those people exist in this world too
worse news: they are so much dumber than you think. Just wait till we get to the alchemy club portions.

 

[Cadoccius13]

wow this chapter was a terrible read for the day

 

[HaikenEdge]

Sure, if it’s un-economic to harvest that makes sense.

Hard to imagine that to be the case when magic is literally a thing in this world.

 

[riflow]

Plus @Vermula
It never got any better. Another reason why I dropped it. "Oh I'm not THAT kind of shotacon don't worry" like five times a book as she leers at kids. "Oh but this <adult man> isn't my type". Etc. And it would be one thing if the story was trying to say "she's in a kid body now, she's got kid attractions again", but NOPE. Plays it completely straight.

Thank you for the confirmation of what type of person she is and the scope of how it's mentioned in the light novel(s) but I'm horrified that the author wrote this and thought it was a good idea.

🥲I feel very sad to know it did get worse though I'm sorry you had to read that. It's so weird BC some elements of the story are so compelling and certainly compelling enough without that as a framing device for why she's so dedicated to her brothers.

Like ....I read a lot of child care and found family series, all the character needs is a little bit of parental or sibling fondness towards someone and that's it. That's their motivation for liking someone enough as a person to advocate for them, and it's enough and not disturbing. 😭

 

[Justking14]

What killed me and got me to drop the novels was

Spoiler

when she wants to make rubber for bicycle tires, and oh we have slime powder (which no one ever has thought to use to make springy cushions with until her) but oh bike tire rubber is black. So the slime needs to be black. So we'll add charcoal to the slime and do literally nothing else. THAT IS NOT HOW RUBBER WORKS.

But. The faces in this manga are good... so I guess I'll suffer through it for a bit more.

By the grace of the gods handles that so much better. There people of the world are aware of latex and how you can get it from trees but just never figured out how to turn it into rubber

 

[HighStream]

Don't other isekais usually focus on either filtration of salt or pepper also? It feels like the author for this series really didn't do much research, even superficial research, on this topic.

(NGL tho I'm not too surprised considering she opens the light novel up with stating Patience is ...not safe around little boys and that's why she's so obsessed with her new little brothers. (I have never refunded something so fast, that was in like the first 5 pages).

So the author has some strange ideas about what could make this series compelling or interesting at times.

I can only imagine the script writer & editor for this adaptation was like

What.

BC it thankfully has ZERO mention in the manga.)

There are a few others that deal with salt, but mostly with getting it cheaply. In By the Grace of the Gods he is able to use alchemy to extract salt more easily, and in Hunting in Another World with My Elf Wife he buys a bunch of salt from Earth for the elves. Salt extraction from the sea and mining is laborious and it's going to have impurities without modern chemistry. So it makes sense that people would be amazed that a character can get it cheaply. But to have people who don't know you can extract salt from the sea is ludicrous. They are going swimming in the sea in regular clothes. If you leave them to dry, you're going to have salt on them.

 

[Heucuva]

Spoiler: Yeah, this novel has quite a bit of knowledge stasis...

... even ignoring basic things like sea salt, the slime usage, there are things like magic wiring, which is practically an extension of magic embroidery. But people treat that as something groundbreaking.

And yes, suspension of disbelief is key to enoying the story.

It is a slice of life with a bit of drama, so expecting a full world design is going to lead to a big letdown.

 

[HaikenEdge]

Spoiler

It is a slice of life with a bit of drama, so expecting a full world design is going to lead to a big letdown.

That just seems like low expectations. Slice-of-life series can have good worldbuilding too.