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I tried to read this again and I can't.

Enjoyed this story the most. Very satisfying. I wish this was one was a full volume rather than a tiny oneshot

From chapter 8 of the manga what chapter would I start in the light novel? Edit: found it. Start at ch. 17

@Zblurth Why should someone take the time to convince you to read something you clearly don't like? Life is too short to read things you don't like. I enjoy this manga but my tastes are different from yours so I'll keep reading. I hope you find something you enjoy soon. :)

@Cynic They're not saying it excuses them but rather gives them depth as a character. At least that's what I took from it.

That's great and all but... they're going to a monastery! If the historical romance books I read are anything to go by... They absolutely suck!! What kind of ending is this?!

@semicharmed I think Cesar sees her as a rival rofl

The young prince still has the soul of a woman so technically not BL since the MC would be transgender... Right? I think.... Also I want some romance between her and kuro dangit!

@newmanism17 I had the exact same thought. According to the description he died saving someone else which is completely different from committing suicide.

To be honest with everything that's happened to madoka I'm thinking she's cracked. No one would come out of this ok. I think part of her wants him alive so she's not considered crazy. Look he's right here I'm not seeing things and part of her wants him dead but of course because of how she was...

@Psychronia I think she meant things weren't drastically altered. Cesar still learned from the mercenaries. Evgenia never stopped that. The traitor probably would have been found later anyway she just hurried it up a little. I think she just took the place of "random character a" and was the...

The dad feels like a mix of irregular main guy and sousuke Sagara. I feel like their child (either one) would be weird.

I can understand groups leaving for whatever reason but they really should leave one chapter behind with an updated credit page stating where they can be found. Cause there's no way I'm going to remember all the groups that translate something. I appreciate the work but I read a lot and won't...

Wow. Ok. That was quick...

I do wish they would wait to actually check everything to make sure their parents are guilty and they didn't do it for a specific reason. Like maybe the old kind was planning something worse and that's why they killed him. Or you know something like that. It's also possible the other guy and...

This is more interesting than I thought but man is she changing history.

@Psychronia Did you read the one where the protagonist played a mobile otome game and liked the shop guy? So when she reincarnates into the game she actively goes for him instead of any of the capture targets. Edit: This one. The Villainess Wants to Marry a Commoner!!

Yup that is exactly how I feel with harems (and reverse harems). It is suuuuuper unrealistic and boring to have a guy or girl have everyone fall in love with them.