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    Maou-sama no Machizukuri! ~Saikyou no Dungeon wa Kindai Toshi~ - Vol. 1 Ch. 6 - Beyond Despair

    @gaigous > Claims that I asked something. > I asked for proof/qoutation > No quote provided... You in a a fucking nutshell... You intellectual-lazy clown. Troughout this whole conversation, you have provided NOTHING to strenghten your points. > I provided THREE different battles to back up a...
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    Maou-sama no Machizukuri! ~Saikyou no Dungeon wa Kindai Toshi~ - Vol. 1 Ch. 6 - Beyond Despair

    @gaigous Quote me. I am pretty sure that I've NEVER asked how YOU would deal with this personally, but how SHE would deal with it even without guns, and with the means SHE HAD. Because what would be the point with a complete random "what ifs"? As the point was about the danger of narrow paths...
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    Maou-sama no Machizukuri! ~Saikyou no Dungeon wa Kindai Toshi~ - Vol. 1 Ch. 6 - Beyond Despair

    @gaigous And yet you keep spewing up bullshit abilites that non of us has seen, just to make a case against the common logic. Good job moron! There is a reason why I wrote: common logic + ma/gic > ma/gic. If we don't know the magic cap or setting, then both of us should be able to use it...
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    Maou-sama no Machizukuri! ~Saikyou no Dungeon wa Kindai Toshi~ - Vol. 1 Ch. 6 - Beyond Despair

    @silverden Because this retard is just running around in circles.. I for example thought he was done with his one sided bullshit where the girl had unlimited means, with a bunch of "ifs" because "magic and dungeons", without logic and reasons... Only for him to still spew this shit... For...
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    Maou-sama no Machizukuri! ~Saikyou no Dungeon wa Kindai Toshi~ - Vol. 1 Ch. 6 - Beyond Despair

    @gaigous ....... And we are back here again...... Are there ways to overcome the narrow hall? Well yes, yes there are... BUT EVERYTHING CAN BE COUNTERED WITH THE RIGHT MEANS, SO WHAT IS YOUR POINT!?! I am seriously getting sick of all your "what ifs".... You sound like a fucking child. "Well...
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    Maou-sama no Machizukuri! ~Saikyou no Dungeon wa Kindai Toshi~ - Vol. 1 Ch. 6 - Beyond Despair

    @gaigous Yes and no. At first glance it may seem the aggressor has the first move, since they make the first move in the actual battle. But like I've stated before: Preperations are also a tactic and plays a huge role. And intel about the other force can go both ways. Just becuase you're...
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    Maou-sama no Machizukuri! ~Saikyou no Dungeon wa Kindai Toshi~ - Vol. 1 Ch. 6 - Beyond Despair

    @Shiki-kan A very interesting read I must say. Though, I don't know if she could have used her clones endlessly, since she had to, despite clearly not wanting to, rely on her most trusted "children". So I think they would be replinshable for sure, but it must take time some certain circumstance...
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    Maou-sama no Machizukuri! ~Saikyou no Dungeon wa Kindai Toshi~ - Vol. 1 Ch. 6 - Beyond Despair

    @gaigous So lets get into this point then. Because although you have in essential used this point througout the conversation, with different direction; I decided to ignore it for now because, well, I didn't want every single respond become too long and thus focused one thing at the time. Sure...
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    Maou-sama no Machizukuri! ~Saikyou no Dungeon wa Kindai Toshi~ - Vol. 1 Ch. 6 - Beyond Despair

    @gaigous ....... This, what you wrote.... Is the point..... The whole point of narrow paths, is to give a smaller army a better fighting chans.... Since the biggest disadvantage for a smaller army is that they can get easily surrounded. Ever trained martial arts? If you asked them how to deal...
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    Maou-sama no Machizukuri! ~Saikyou no Dungeon wa Kindai Toshi~ - Vol. 1 Ch. 6 - Beyond Despair

    @gaigous Well, if you haven't keept count, I so far have mention 3 different real battles where the disadvantage of rushing a huge army down a small path has been far too great. This isn't a debate, this is a know fact.... And here I thought I rounded up my previous point so well... That on...
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    Maou-sama no Machizukuri! ~Saikyou no Dungeon wa Kindai Toshi~ - Vol. 1 Ch. 6 - Beyond Despair

    @gaigous Okey, thank you elaborating. I had my suspecions that it was like that you meant it, but wasn't sure. But indeed, one can sometimes become too lazy when one's point seem so obvious to oneself.. And no, I can get carried away here. Because just like I've stated before: Fantasies still...
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    Maou-sama no Machizukuri! ~Saikyou no Dungeon wa Kindai Toshi~ - Vol. 1 Ch. 6 - Beyond Despair

    @Shiki-kan I must say that I agree with you. And your point of it not being foolproofed sounds indeed logical. Even the manga seemed to adress that, since he did seem troubled with how he should build the most effcient dungeon, despite having guns. So interesting thoughts. I must admit I was...
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    Maou-sama no Machizukuri! ~Saikyou no Dungeon wa Kindai Toshi~ - Vol. 1 Ch. 6 - Beyond Despair

    @gaigous Don't become sensible now, you will just make me feel bad after all my insults (even if the were warranted at the time)... However, to make things easier for what you've written, I will respond to each paragraph in order. And put it in spoilers becasue it became kinda long..
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    Maou-sama no Machizukuri! ~Saikyou no Dungeon wa Kindai Toshi~ - Vol. 1 Ch. 6 - Beyond Despair

    @gaigous My points has had similarites, but my main points has been different. Why do you think I myself adressed yours and Narfs points seperately? Like you still haven't answered me how you think her light/cheap mobile troop would fair if they faced agains more "primitive" weapons like...
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    Maou-sama no Machizukuri! ~Saikyou no Dungeon wa Kindai Toshi~ - Vol. 1 Ch. 6 - Beyond Despair

    @gaigous ... Somehow you seemed smarter when you danced around the topic... And no, you haven't adressed my point so far. You might have adress other people, but not me. I already mentioned A REAL battle between the English and the French... Were rushing a huge army down a narrow path is a...
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    Maou-sama no Machizukuri! ~Saikyou no Dungeon wa Kindai Toshi~ - Vol. 1 Ch. 6 - Beyond Despair

    @gaigous I have widen it and widen it.... And you've yet to adress anything... "Agree to disagree", like wtf man.. You can't even say WHAT part and WHY you disagree. You haven't even been close to come up with an argument at all! I even brought up a REAL battle here. She did the exact MISTAKE...
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    Maou-sama no Machizukuri! ~Saikyou no Dungeon wa Kindai Toshi~ - Vol. 1 Ch. 6 - Beyond Despair

    @gaious Wow, you once again didn't adress my point. You know, I can't belive that you truly believed that she did everything right. Sure by doing eveything right might not have made her win over guns. But she didn't use her brain at all. Let me take another example since you're so focused...
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    Maou-sama no Machizukuri! ~Saikyou no Dungeon wa Kindai Toshi~ - Vol. 1 Ch. 6 - Beyond Despair

    @Firefly @gaigous @Narf Her being unable to craft a good plan against guns is one thing. But not even crafting up a plan until half your army is lost and too late, is another. You people are so caught up that there was nothing she could do against guns, that you fail to see that she still...
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    Maou-sama no Machizukuri! ~Saikyou no Dungeon wa Kindai Toshi~ - Vol. 1 Ch. 6 - Beyond Despair

    @monkey123 I'd read one of your previous comments, thought you missed the point, decided not to respond anyway. But when you've missed the point once again... Let me adress both. She wasn't in panic mode when they stupidly assumed that MC hadn't done the next room similar or even worse. And...
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    Maou-sama no Machizukuri! ~Saikyou no Dungeon wa Kindai Toshi~ - Vol. 1 Ch. 6 - Beyond Despair

    @gaigous How can you be this dense. Him having guns or not doesn't change the fact she failed hard. I could make a very long list. But will refrain no to... Especially since you haven't even adressed any of my previous points! Not rushed in like a bull....? Dude, she sent half her troops...
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