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The person talking is Kaneda and he's just expressing his opinion why he doesn't like people like Yumigahama who gets close with famous martial artists just to steal their techniques. It makes them come across as insincere
 
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@Sigilbreaker26 Yumigahama winning would be interesting, maybe he comes back later in the tournament, or his defeat is saved for Koga. I agree him stealing techniques is stupid, isn't that what Kanoh does?
 
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Yeah, same. Agitoh would have been much more fitting, but Yumigahama's greatest crime isn't the liver shot. It's that he won't ever allow that fight to happen. And thus we are stuck with Misasa as the only one able to provoke him.
 
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That’s literally just the doctor guy after getting a good nights sleep
 
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But Kaneda is one of the most underhanded fighters in the original tournament

@zenomanga

Every fighter only fights once in this tournament, 13 matches

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Maybe Yumigahama will fight again, but this feels like the author established Yumigahama then didn't want to follow up on him being strong. It feels like the first 49 chapters of this series came from an entirely different manga sometimes
 
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“There are no secret moves anymore”

Uh, if you’re talking about real life, that’s correct. But this is a fictional setting with tons of secret moves. Setting aside Ohma’s Niko Style, Setsuna’s Koei Style, and even Gensai’s Kaiwan Style which, while being more mundane than the two of them, still incorporates parts of the Niko Style into it like the bone binding technique, just recently we had Toa introduced with his unnamed Kiwi Style. Then there’s the freaking Kure Clan with their Kure techniques, Nikaido’s Heavenly Wolf techniques, Inaba and Rei’s assassination styles, hell, even Sekibayashi’s wrestling style of causing damage to his opponents as they attack him can be considered a personally refined technique.

What Yumigahama did is the same as what Setsuna did to his master; Setsuna cozied up to Genzan, then used the techniques he learned to kill him and ran away with them for his personal motives. Guys like Genzan and Rei’s grandpa passed down their techniques because they wanted to continue the legacies of their respective martial art styles. With these sorts of ancient styles, there’s a tendency to treat the histories of the styles with respect and reverence for their predecessors in developing and continuing the lineage. Then you have guys like Setsuna and Yumigahama who take what they can get before fucking off, wasting the time of their teachers and disrespecting the style as a whole. Kiozan was an outcast for deviating from the standards of modern sumo, remember? Martial artists in these kinds of settings put a lot of sentiment and respect for the styles they practice, and that was pretty much the essence of the fight between Seki and Kiozan.

Guys like Agito who can learn a style to a high level of mastery just from observation are treated like super prodigies. Sure, one can be self-taught, but you can just see how Setsuna’s training with Genzan as a kid as an example of how hard it is to learn a “secret technique” even with instructions from a master, and he was a prodigy too.
 
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It's true, it almost feels unreal for him to fight that early. Then again though, Kengan is known for being unpredictable.
 
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Oh yeah, Yumigahama's definitely getting dunked on this chapter. Being called a collector derogatively even though there's nothing all that wrong with that, while he's only showing off a single technique : using his arm like a spear. Where are the other techniques he's stolen? (The description for human weapon is also hilarious; Asaemon's secret striking technique is compared to a sword, but then it's described as having a crushing effect.)

He also hasn't really been doing all that much (Misasa has essentially blocked or dodged everything) and he gets knocked out by Misasa in one hit that came out of nowhere.

With that said, a flaw in Misasa's personality has been unearthed, and Yumigahama has perhaps realized with this down that he's going to have to do better. Maybe he can still turn this around? Not that I'm rooting for him lol.

So I guess next chapter we'll learn a bit more about Misasa.
 
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Yeah, that guy seems to read this manga just to complain about it in the comment section everytime I see him making a comment, makes me wonder why he reads it in the first place

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Well-said.
 
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" Setsuna cozied up to Genzan, then used the techniques he learned to kill him and ran away with them for his personal motives. "

Do you see what Setsuna actually did wrong.

Right there?

He *killed* Genzan.

That is the wrong thing. If Yumigahama went around murdering people, I would get it, but he doesn't.

" With these sorts of ancient styles, there’s a tendency to treat the histories of the styles with respect and reverence for their predecessors in developing and continuing the lineage"

No there isn't, heck even Rei broke the actual sacred moral rule of his family by taking sides in a political squabble.

"Guys like Agito who can learn a style to a high level of mastery just from observation are treated like super prodigies"

Wasn't Yumigahama called a martial arts savant literally the previous chapter?
 
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"Did that blow actually get to me?" - bruh, you got hit in the back of your head into the damn cement floor... -_-
 

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