14-sai no Koi - Vol. 9 Ch. 38.7 - Intermission 52

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@darklight99 She clearly has a thing for him in an unhealthy way and has been at least sort of grooming him for quite some time. I don't read this for this pairing (or any of the other incredibly disturbing pairings tbh) except the main one and maybe the male teacher/female student one because there the teacher clearly doesn't see her that way. The main pair is very cute, but even the 14/12 one is pretty weird.
 
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@JesusInStripeZ You're projecting. She has only been trying to help his singing. And this is pretty much the second most important pairing in this series. Also saying that you're ok with one underage pairing but not with another one is just weird.
 
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@darklight99 Yeah, I'm definitely projecting when she was blushing like crazy this chapter when he pinned her against the fence, lmao. What does it matter how important it is? It's predatory and weird as fuck. And no, it's not. 12/14 is obviously different than 14/14, lol. You're just trying to rationalize the depiction of a predatory relationship and that's it x)
 
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@JesusInStripeZ Anyone would get flustered when pushed against a barrier and get forcefully kissed, are you kidding me? Again, you're ok with one pedophilic relationship but not the other? Right..
 
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@darklight99 Suuuuure, eeeeeveryone would. When you're getting flustered as an adult because a middle schooler forcefully kissed you, then you should maybe think about why that gets you flustered and not angry or irritated. Which other pedophilic relationship are you even talking about? No other adult is into one of the children, lol.
 
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@JesusInStripeZ She is also not into you, you're projecting too much. She was surprised because she thought that he was feeling shy over seeing a professional singer, only for him to push her against a barrier and forcefully kiss her, she did g want him to do it. This is pointless, you're not event trying to read stuff you're complaining about.
 
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@darklight99 Uh, do you not know what projection means? The dude is clearly into her, so I can't really project onto him and I'd be happy that she was flustered... Also, no. That doesn't get a normal person flustered. You don't get flustered when someone half your age, that you only see as a student, forcefully kisses you. Only predators like her do. She's quite literally grooming him and you're trying to rationalize it.
 
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@JesusInStripeZ Sure buddy, keep projecting.
Also, all you're doing is victim blaming, blaming her for being forcefully kissed. And saying that it's her fault for getting flustered by it and dictating how a person should react to it.
 
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@darklight99 But she's not a victim? She's grooming him. Her reaction is not that of a person that only sees her student as a student. Stop trying to rationalize predatory relationships.
 
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@JesusInStripeZ If someone forces another person against a barrier and forces a kiss on them against their will, they're a victim. And don't try to judge her reactions, this is all victim blaming, "Oh well she reacted in a way which makes it her fault" is a common tactic attackers use to justify their attacks against victims.
 
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@darklight99 Look, even if she was a victim, which she isn't, then her reaction wouldn't be blushing if she disliked it. This isn't like rape where physical stimulation forces a reaction out of the body. You don't blush if someone forcibly kisses you that you don't want to be kissed by. You were telling me I'm projecting, but honestly, ironically it's probably you who's projecting here, lol. Just stop rationalizing predatory relationships and behavior.
 
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@darklight99 Mate, I get that you really like this manga, after all you're translating it, but by god, it's very, very obvious that she just doesn't see him as her student. Feel free to check all the previous chapters, where she starts blushing thinking about him, gets flustered when others mention him or even starts blushing when he only gets close to her. 37.6 is a perfect example. Please, please stop trying to rationalize this.
 
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@JesusInStripeZ Whatever, I'm done with your psychoanalysis, I don't even care for this couple but when you start whining about something about 100 chapters in, I had to ask about it, but it seems clear your arguments are nonsensical.
 
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@darklight99 Sure. You're trying to rationalize grooming because you like the manga and that's pretty yikes. You can deny it all you want, but the author makes it pretty clear that she doesn't just see him as a student.
 
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@darklight99 Yeah and we also see her flustered when he gets mentioned, blushing whenever he gets close to her and in general being very focused on him. You can see how bothered she is by what he thinks about her in other chapters too, 28.6 for example "What... What will he say? Will he laugh? Will he be repulsed? I don't want him to see this.". "It's just about his singing" yeah suuuure, lol. Please stop rationalizing this.
 
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@JesusInStripeZ While I agree with you on Hinohara liking Nagai (and Nagai liking her), I 100% disagree on any grooming accusations, at least so far. She has been doing her hardest not to do anything extra, apart from what she needed to do to keep a delinquent interested in something very anti-delinquent like singing lessons. It's not as easy as trying to teach a regular, obedient student who's already interested in singing. She has got what it takes, though. Perhaps it's tragic she likes him, but saying it's grooming and predatory is nonsense. At least so far. She's not guilty of anything until she is guilty of something.

Nagai falling for her is perfectly natural. She's the only person in the world who pays attention to him and thinks he can become something in life. Seeing how she's a pretty funny and nice personality, relatively young and very attractive, it would be strange if he didn't fall for her.

I've said it before, but I find it kind of funny that there would be a million people in Japan alone who would want to save (someone like) Nagai from (someone like) Hinohara's clutches, but once "saved", they wouldn't give a single shit about what happens to Nagai afterwards. Without Hinohara, he would go back to being nothing but a delinquent. The teachers would either ignore him or berate him, calling him a failure. That's it. The million people would feel very proud of themselves, though. What I like about fiction is that I can just enjoy the story, without caring about how it would be a lose-lose situation in RL.
 

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