2.5 Dimensional Seduction - Ch. 166 - OUR SECOND SUMMER CAMP

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  • dont make me into a harem protagonist
  • you always have been
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Bruh dude just did the “Nothing happened” reference from One piece lmao
 
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If only development wasn't so slow...
I dont even feel like its slow. I feel like its dead.

Lylisa and Masamune decided to be platonic...

So now we are just kind of not developing anything instead.

Being honest senpai is barely a factor in the plot and story.

This series has always been barely romance and barely harem.
 
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I dont even feel like its slow. I feel like its dead.

Lylisa and Masamune decided to be platonic...

So now we are just kind of not developing anything instead.

Being honest senpai is barely a factor in the plot and story.

This series has always been barely romance and barely harem.
Sometimes I wonder if the author ever regretted starting this series with a male protagonist and having to give him some focus every 10 or 20 chapters.
It's sad because I was looking for a romcom and not an idol manga with a cosplay theme, but it's clear I'm in the minority so the only thing I can do is keep my fingers crossed that Okumura will become more relevant in the story or eventually drop the series should the author decide to write him off.
 
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Sometimes I wonder if the author ever regretted starting this series with a male protagonist and having to give him some focus every 10 or 20 chapters.
It's sad because I was looking for a romcom and not an idol manga with a cosplay theme, but it's clear I'm in the minority so the only thing I can do is keep my fingers crossed that Okumura will become more relevant in the story or eventually drop the series should the author decide to write him off.

Yeah, this series would have been more popular as an idol type, it alredy has the Yuri bait.

But Okumura chapters are the best from the series.

But he is too distant from the plot. Even in cons he barely is seen taking photos.

I believe the original intention was the original plot of Okumura and Lylisa making porn at school, when that plot got buried... there wasnt any plot relevance for Okumura left.

It also loses moments like when Okumura felt jealous when he thought Lylisa was selling the erotic pics they were taking.

Okumura is just there while the girls do cosplay.

Lylisa decided she was platonic and there just wasnt anything to replace the romance.

They baited a Mikarin win that went nowhere and the rest have 0 development with him.
 
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Yeah, this series would have been more popular as an idol type, it alredy has the Yuri bait.

But Okumura chapters are the best from the series.

But he is too distant from the plot. Even in cons he barely is seen taking photos.

I believe the original intention was the original plot of Okumura and Lylisa making porn at school, when that plot got buried... there wasnt any plot relevance for Okumura left.

It also loses moments like when Okumura felt jealous when he thought Lylisa was selling the erotic pics they were taking.

Okumura is just there while the girls do cosplay.

Lylisa decided she was platonic and there just wasnt anything to replace the romance.

They baited a Mikarin win that went nowhere and the rest have 0 development with him.
It's sad because even with the shif in focus from the manga club to cosplay conventions, there were ways to keep Okumura relevant, by giving more focus on his role as cameraman or having him cosplay as Ashford. There was even the aborted plot of that pro cosplayer who had a crush on a character that looked exactly like him...instead we got nothing. At some point I was even under the impression that the author was sidelining characters like Mikari who cannot work in the series without Okumura in favor of introducing new ones that revolved around Lylisa instead.
I'd be curious to read an interview where the author talks about the shif in focus in this manga to see if it was due to the editor, fans feedback or the author had planned this from the beginning.
 
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It's sad because even with the shif in focus from the manga club to cosplay conventions, there were ways to keep Okumura relevant, by giving more focus on his role as cameraman or having him cosplay as Ashford. There was even the aborted plot of that pro cosplayer who had a crush on a character that looked exactly like him...instead we got nothing. At some point I was even under the impression that the author was sidelining characters like Mikari who cannot work in the series without Okumura in favor of introducing new ones that revolved around Lylisa instead.
I'd be curious to read an interview where the author talks about the shif in focus in this manga to see if it was due to the editor, fans feedback or the author had planned this from the beginning.
Even when we got a late new girl. The normal status quo breaker in romcoms... she kinda just got into cosplay and Lylisa...

And Sudenly she decided she liked Okumura(And i even doubt that) and then she did nothing.

I feel like Lylisa kinda rejected Okumura... but then no one else tried to jump at the chance.

Lylisa has her new objective, but what about Okumura?
 
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It's sad because even with the shif in focus from the manga club to cosplay conventions, there were ways to keep Okumura relevant, by giving more focus on his role as cameraman or having him cosplay as Ashford. There was even the aborted plot of that pro cosplayer who had a crush on a character that looked exactly like him...instead we got nothing. At some point I was even under the impression that the author was sidelining characters like Mikari who cannot work in the series without Okumura in favor of introducing new ones that revolved around Lylisa instead.
I'd be curious to read an interview where the author talks about the shif in focus in this manga to see if it was due to the editor, fans feedback or the author had planned this from the beginning.
Really want to know this... This manga's premise was way more interesting in the beginning, then it shifted into a generic cosplay manga after they got rid of the raunchy. its so weird because it was extremely ecchi. To me it sounds like the editor telling the author hey if you want an anime tune it down and make it more mainstream, but we'll never know
 
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Really want to know this... This manga's premise was way more interesting in the beginning, then it shifted into a generic cosplay manga after they got rid of the raunchy. its so weird because it was extremely ecchi. To me it sounds like the editor telling the author hey if you want an anime tune it down and make it more mainstream, but we'll never know
According to the mangaka's commentary on the anime, he was planning on ending this manga in two to three volumes while never leaving the club room. So yeah it'd have been a dead end manga if he followed the original plan. I kinda would be worried how they'd have done Marina in one volume given she was also supposed to be introduced.
Pretty much the editor told him after Mikari was introduced to get them out of the school, and that's what led to the current path. But considering that this is his longest work, I think he's happy with what he's achieved.
Granted there aren't even many cosplay mangas out there, and none that go into the scene like this one.

The anime's been pretty useful in revealing all sorta little details in his commentary, like Mikari originally being named Lilysa and that she's still the designated RomCom Heroine compared to the Shonen Protagonist Lilysa.
 
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Honestly I would've preferred three volumes of romance and comedy in the manga club rather than 10 volumes of cosplay battles, but I'm sure the author is enjoying the popularity of the series.
The commentary makes me wonder if we'll actually get a Mikari ending, with Lylisa focusing on her career as pro cosplayer instead.
 
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You know what is the biggest problem of the series?
Characters have nowhere to go.

See the original 4 characters,

Okumura, Lylisa, Mikari and Marina.

Okumura has his woman trauma, most of his chapters are about that and its the only remaining plotline.

Lylisa wanted to do erotic cosplay, but the manga changed along the way, so she developed her "own path as a cosplayer" and now, she got into the designer business... and ended her romance with Okumura, so her character is kinda done?

Marina arc was about her secret otakuness and her relationship with Okumura. It got resolved in chapter 100, and since then she is a background prop.

And Mikari... who's whole character revolves around liking Okumura... and has not changed since introduction.

But every other character was kinda done in the same arc they were introduced.

Nonoka got over her social anxiety.

Aria reconciliated with her dad.

Tsubaki got to learn passion.

(And really doesnt count but teach learn to confront her feelings i guess?)

Since then they are completely static and just hang around Lylisa.

So we are just waiting for Okumura character to do something.
 

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