29-sai Dokushin wa Isekai de Jiyuu ni Ikita……katta - Vol. 4 Ch. 21

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Maybe I am heartless or maybe I am naive but I personally think what MC did is pure trash behaviour. Slaughtering her entire team and then ”torturing” information out of her and then instead of killing her, sending her to those guards, and after all of that, he has the audacity to buy her from a slave market. Pure sadistic humiliation (it doesn’t matter what his intentions are, you can’t undo all the stuff you did)
 
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Of course it won't atone for what he did, but he didn't originally do those things with the intent for making up for it later on. He just happened to come across her here. There's lots of other things that are at best questionable, but that specifically is less suspect.
 
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Rarher than criticize the MC (main character) for legitimately not being in his right mind after a group of assassins killed the girl he loved and interrogating the last assassin, or criticize him for what happened to said assassin when it was the kingdom who tossed her away, I think it would make more sense to criticize the writing of why everyone, even the MC, blames the MC in the first place.

How is the MC at fault?

The assassins started it, then got trounced for going after his girl and not him. That was cruel on the assassins' part, and they basically got what they gave.

And his reaction? It's called temporary insanity, and its a legitimate thing that happens in high stress, emotionally-charged situations.

And did the MC knowingly tell the kingdom to beat her up and sell her as a slave? No. If anything, he might have expected she got the death penalty. Maybe. This chapter made it clear he didn't really think about what she would go through.

Just because the writing blames a character, doesn't mean the writing is correct to do so.
 
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even if MC didn't killed those assassins, they will still live a shitty lives and will murder another heroes.
 
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i knew it, it's quite sus she's the only one left alive back then
if it's a man, sure it's just that and the story with him will end
but a girl, big boobas, it's not gonna stop, of course it's gonna be a harem
 
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Rarher than criticize the MC (main character) for legitimately not being in his right mind after a group of assassins killed the girl he loved and interrogating the last assassin, or criticize him for what happened to said assassin when it was the kingdom who tossed her away, I think it would make more sense to criticize the writing of why everyone, even the MC, blames the MC in the first place.

How is the MC at fault?
agreed, when i read comments, it's quite rare to read a sane and logical comments. most of them just i dont like this and that, never actually think, what would i do if i were mc at the exact same experience

i know we all have different moral standard, but even so again, try to stop and look it as if you're the one experience it.
 
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Rarher than criticize the MC (main character) for legitimately not being in his right mind after a group of assassins killed the girl he loved and interrogating the last assassin, or criticize him for what happened to said assassin when it was the kingdom who tossed her away, I think it would make more sense to criticize the writing of why everyone, even the MC, blames the MC in the first place.

How is the MC at fault?

The assassins started it, then got trounced for going after his girl and not him. That was cruel on the assassins' part, and they basically got what they gave.

And his reaction? It's called temporary insanity, and its a legitimate thing that happens in high stress, emotionally-charged situations.

And did the MC knowingly tell the kingdom to beat her up and sell her as a slave? No. If anything, he might have expected she got the death penalty. Maybe. This chapter made it clear he didn't really think about what she would go through.

Just because the writing blames a character, doesn't mean the writing is correct to do so.
I don't think the writing blamed it on the MC, he's blaming himself! Even if he was in the right to defend himself, he let rage take him over! And after the rage passed, a sense of guilt came, especially for someone who has never killed another human, raised in a Japanese society! It's easy fantasise "oh, I would mercilessly slaughter them all", when the majority would probably froze at a scene of carnage, chopping another human with a blade! It's completely understandable the doubts the protagonist is having! I'm glad the manga didn't follow the WN, where he supposedly raped her after the interrogation
 
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I don't think the writing blamed it on the MC, he's blaming himself! Even if he was in the right to defend himself, he let rage take him over! And after the rage passed, a sense of guilt came, especially for someone who has never killed another human, raised in a Japanese society! It's easy fantasise "oh, I would mercilessly slaughter them all", when the majority would probably froze at a scene of carnage, chopping another human with a blade! It's completely understandable the doubts the protagonist is having! I'm glad the manga didn't follow the WN, where he supposedly raped her after the interrogation
I would like to point out that guilty people will tend to think of as much as they can to try and feel better about what happened. They will usually bring up facts that help justify what they did as not as bad as it feels.

Like how she was part of a group of killers that went after people's families to get to them. Like how she would be part of, if not directly, killing someone else's girlfriend/fiancée/wife had it not been his.

But none of these things are brought up. He only thinks he's responsible for what happened to her after he stopped her murderous group.

I don't buy it. It is the writer artificially creating internal drama, and in a chapter or two that will become clear when he gets this moment where he's outright told not to blame himself and there's this big hug/dramatic relief scene.

I would buy it if he saw what happened and thought she went through too much. And if he acknowledged she was doing evil things before and thought she deserved a chance at redemption because he's a good guy and it's clear she isn't the same person anymore.

But buying her out of guilt is, in my opinion, too much of a stretch; done solely to artificially create drama that gets resolved in a future scene.
 
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@electro_neanderthal look, I probably would done certain things differently, maybe for the better maybe for the worse! But this guy is going with this and imo, we shouldn't project ourselves on him! Just accept his good or bad decisions as part of the story! On the other hand a story can be told bad or good depending on how good the author is on creating said story. Tbh stories are getting simpler and simpler when one doesn't even have to think and everything is explained making the characters look dumb when explaining every thought and action! But for that, we, the readers are to blame for reading such simple stories! Resulting in publishers preferring "junk food" manga over more unique ones, and only sporadically some brave and talented mangaka are given an opportunity! I'll stop here, I've already went off on a tangent!
 
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It's implied that she was sold into slavery, not for attempting to assassinate the MC, but by failing to do so. That's pretty messed up.
 

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