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It makes me wonder if Chiyo ever really loved Igarashi...
What I don't understand is all the Igarashi hate in the comicojp comment section for this chapter, calling him worse than a stalker and that he should be arrested. Maybe it's because I'm a guy and that I don't see that what he did was any more intentionally a betrayal of Chiyo's faith and trust than what she herself has done, herself. Dumb, stupid, moronic, yes, but he has never intentionally cheated on or betrayed her, and his heart (unlike hers) has never wavered.
Normally, wouldn't the woman who felt cheated on confront the woman she thinks her man cheated with? How come Chiyo hasn't done that?
Arrgh! This has been so frustrating to read (and scanlate).
Normally, wouldn't the woman who felt cheated on confront the woman she thinks her man cheated with? How come Chiyo hasn't done that?
Arrgh! This has been so frustrating to read (and scanlate).
Bruh this manga is so frustrating, of course she's mad and i wonder if the author is just going to pull "Subaru was angry she was called over for no reason and made it look like they slept together" plot....also Iga-chan that's trespassing and assault, at least here in Canada...
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@FredFriendly Chiyo has been a shit tier GF this whole story but now due to the possible cheating drama they are making them both shit tier people.
I am still pissed about how the whole thing went down. They get Igarashi drunk enough to where in the US it wouldn't have even been consent. Then his thirsty friend calls up Subaru to try to hook up. Then they pawn Igarashi on Subaru instead of taking him home. Why didn't the thirsty dude try to cockblock Subaru? Why did they let a girl take him to a hotel when they know he has a GF?
I am still pissed about how the whole thing went down. They get Igarashi drunk enough to where in the US it wouldn't have even been consent. Then his thirsty friend calls up Subaru to try to hook up. Then they pawn Igarashi on Subaru instead of taking him home. Why didn't the thirsty dude try to cockblock Subaru? Why did they let a girl take him to a hotel when they know he has a GF?
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@FredFriendly
its very very painful to see such a good character disgraced like this after nearly 200 chapters.
there is nothing else which I can understand anymore, all the love and cute stuff that happened between the MC and MH mean nothing to the story and was just soap in the eyes?
or maybe JP Community really hate men like Igarashi and want a different character to replace him which the Author might be doing now (Okumma or anyone else later etc)
or maybe JP Community really hate men like Igarashi and want a different character to replace him which the Author might be doing now (Okumma or anyone else later etc)
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@FredFriendly
This is the first time I agree with the comicojp comments. Igarashi crossed a line when he forced himself into her house. Plus his whole behavior of chasing her around is indeed creepy.
Honestly like @DeathBahamutXXX said Coco's made BOTH of the main characters completely unlikeable now. I would have dropped this series by now if I wasn't so deep in it.
This is the first time I agree with the comicojp comments. Igarashi crossed a line when he forced himself into her house. Plus his whole behavior of chasing her around is indeed creepy.
Honestly like @DeathBahamutXXX said Coco's made BOTH of the main characters completely unlikeable now. I would have dropped this series by now if I wasn't so deep in it.
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in every story like that, we always have have confrontation, it is a form of development and generally gives the motives for both cheater and cheated and is a form to people understand what really happened, Coco decided to blown it...
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Huh? When has he been chasing her around? Did I miss a chapter or two? He tried to talk to her in the cafeteria the day she came back to school. He went to her house (ostensibly) to return her key, just like she asked him to do. I don't see that as "chasing her around."
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Why indeed? Obviously in order to force this drama. Why else?
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I feel the same. Coco creates this super nice, super likeable MC the proceeds to humiliate him in the most emasculating ways she can think of. Why? The thought occurs to me that it is to make someone else shine in comparison in Chiyo's eyes (guess who).
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Reminder that Igarashi got taken advantage of while drunk and if there was any sex, then it was rape and Subaru is a criminal. If the genders were reversed then people would think Chiyo is worse than Hitler for treating a potential rape victim like that.
Of course, that's not the case so Chiyo's bitchy overreaction is treated as justified and appopriate. In the end, I'm sure the misunderstanding will be cleared and people will put the blame on Igarashi being an idiot or Subaru being a bitch and not on Chiyo going "FUCK YOU! I HATE YOU! WE WERE NEVER MEANT TO BE TOGETHER! I DIDN'T EVEN LOVE YOU ANYMORE ANYWAY!" whenever something that threatens her shitty pride happens.
Of course, that's not the case so Chiyo's bitchy overreaction is treated as justified and appopriate. In the end, I'm sure the misunderstanding will be cleared and people will put the blame on Igarashi being an idiot or Subaru being a bitch and not on Chiyo going "FUCK YOU! I HATE YOU! WE WERE NEVER MEANT TO BE TOGETHER! I DIDN'T EVEN LOVE YOU ANYMORE ANYWAY!" whenever something that threatens her shitty pride happens.
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At this point, I think Igarashi'd be much better off by dropping out of that school (so he doesn't see Chiyo anymore), moving back home to his parent's, and dating Inoue, the one girl in this story who loves him for who his is, not who they want him to be.
You might be right about that, but how many hundreds of chapters of utter crap writing are we going to have to suffer through before that happens?
At this point, I think Igarashi'd be much better off by dropping out of that school (so he doesn't see Chiyo anymore), moving back home to his parent's, and dating Inoue, the one girl in this story who loves him for who his is, not who they want him to be.
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@FredFriendly True, I genuinely don't want read this story anymore with the characters that are like this now (its truly painful),
maybe just maybe the story will shift to a different couple or the MC just falling in love with another girl and forgetting about Chiyo completely.
(also its Inoue seems a lot more of a passive character but I would love to see her and Igarashi together since they are quite similar)
maybe just maybe the story will shift to a different couple or the MC just falling in love with another girl and forgetting about Chiyo completely.
(also its Inoue seems a lot more of a passive character but I would love to see her and Igarashi together since they are quite similar)
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@fredfriendly why is the onus on chiyo to confront the person her boyfriend cheated with? the onus is on igarashi to NOT CHEAT. "maybe because I'm a man" ain't it chief, it's pure ignorance on your end. not to mention what will confrontation with the other party accomplish besides open hostility and potential violence? If her boyfriend came to her and confessed infidelity, then that should be all the evidence she needs. a woman shouldn't have to nancy drew her way to the truth of whether her SO is faithful or not, if he's openly stating he was unfaithful, that should be the end of it. Igarashi has been incredibly incompetent if his intentions are to get back into her good graces because nothing he's done has proven he DIDN'T cheat on her.
Yeah, Subaru could be lying, but Igarashi went with her story and because of that is suffering the consequences. Just because he came clean doesn't mean he will be forgiven for it. And this desperation in this chapter? Yes, it's creepy. Forcing his way into her apartment when she is repeatedly stating to get out is absolutely unacceptable. She doesn't have to forgive him or let him come back, and him ignoring her repeatedly saying she doesn't want to speak to him is pretty insulting. Chiyo is not the villain here, the people commenting she is likely have some severe misogynistic hangups with women and their place.
Yeah, Subaru could be lying, but Igarashi went with her story and because of that is suffering the consequences. Just because he came clean doesn't mean he will be forgiven for it. And this desperation in this chapter? Yes, it's creepy. Forcing his way into her apartment when she is repeatedly stating to get out is absolutely unacceptable. She doesn't have to forgive him or let him come back, and him ignoring her repeatedly saying she doesn't want to speak to him is pretty insulting. Chiyo is not the villain here, the people commenting she is likely have some severe misogynistic hangups with women and their place.
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Chiyo has been a miserable bitch for the majority of the series. Most regular readers that comment on this site are not inclined to cut her any slack and for good reason.
Chiyo has been a miserable bitch for the majority of the series. Most regular readers that comment on this site are not inclined to cut her any slack and for good reason.
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I don’t believe that people who are calling out Chiyo are misogynistic. As mentioned by other readers things aren’t adding up. Most people would like to know everything about the whole affair. From beginning all the way to present. Who, What, When, Why, Where, and How.
Desperation is a powerful emotion. I wouldn’t call this behavior creepy. I’ve seen this kind of behavior IRL by both men and women. If the genders where reversed most would likely think it not creepy at all. But here we are. Someone wants forgiveness and to talk while the other want to sever all ties.
As we have come to learn any time Chiyo does something questionable it’s swept under the rug not to be addressed. As somehow it's always Igarashi's fault, no matter what. This is his story (not Chiyo's), yet he is treated poorly constantly.
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I don’t believe that people who are calling out Chiyo are misogynistic. As mentioned by other readers things aren’t adding up. Most people would like to know everything about the whole affair. From beginning all the way to present. Who, What, When, Why, Where, and How.
Desperation is a powerful emotion. I wouldn’t call this behavior creepy. I’ve seen this kind of behavior IRL by both men and women. If the genders where reversed most would likely think it not creepy at all. But here we are. Someone wants forgiveness and to talk while the other want to sever all ties.
As we have come to learn any time Chiyo does something questionable it’s swept under the rug not to be addressed. As somehow it's always Igarashi's fault, no matter what. This is his story (not Chiyo's), yet he is treated poorly constantly.
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The way he was acting at her apartment really was quite creepy, but it's the author's fault for destroying his character.
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He's not intentionally being creepy by forcing his way in through the door.
In his stunted, 12yo mind, he's just giving the key back.
But yeah, and adult at that point would have shoved it under the door in an envelope (so it is obvious and doesn't get lost)
As for Chiyo confronting Subaru or whatever - we the audience know the circumstances are sus as hell, and *if* something happened then technically Subaru raped Igrashi, but yeah men can't be raped by women herp derp... Chiyo doesn't know all the sus stuff we do, she has her BF admit to cheating and believes him, she has no reason to dig more. Only an immature bitch would go chasing after Subaru over it when they believe it is legit cheating, so bizarrely we've found an instance of Chiyo being mature? Yeah, broken clocks are right twice a day & all that.
In his stunted, 12yo mind, he's just giving the key back.
But yeah, and adult at that point would have shoved it under the door in an envelope (so it is obvious and doesn't get lost)
As for Chiyo confronting Subaru or whatever - we the audience know the circumstances are sus as hell, and *if* something happened then technically Subaru raped Igrashi, but yeah men can't be raped by women herp derp... Chiyo doesn't know all the sus stuff we do, she has her BF admit to cheating and believes him, she has no reason to dig more. Only an immature bitch would go chasing after Subaru over it when they believe it is legit cheating, so bizarrely we've found an instance of Chiyo being mature? Yeah, broken clocks are right twice a day & all that.
