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its shinobu, its definitely shinobu.
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@lastKANAshimi I believe otherwise. Shinobu just joined them this chapter and Kaido hinted at the spy being in Oden's ranks for a long time. She helped Oden and he helped her back. If anything, This chapter proves that she's not the traitor.
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The things in this chapter I think should be addressed ...
1 - @LeEpicMinecrafter @Rosen_Ritter Flashback Kaido was a proper pirate: sober (ymmv), evil and not beyond cheap tricks to win... A lowly pirate establishing his territory... 20 yrs later Nowadays Kaido is a depressive and suicidal drunkard that holds the title of strongest... would be funny if something Oden said to him from inside the boiling pot is the catalyst for such radical change(1)...
2 - @breizh @lastKANAshimi @Lemillion There's no such a thing as a traitor... The catch is that someone in Orochi ranks have an incredible user of the color of observation(2)... And Kaido's reveal is just to seed doubt between his enemies... I would dare to say he defeated Moria with the same scheme... It should be a downer to see Inuarashi pursuing his own tail for 20 years (and all the readers for so many chapters), but funny nonetheless...
3 - @mhaaad @coq1 I think that "ruining" Oden character is the right feel since this is how everybody in Wano feels about him... It's a time of despair and only the few that dare to call themselves his allies would really accept him with little to no question... I myself am questioning how Enma that forces a Color of Armament infused blade wasn't capable of breaking a Bari Bari Barrier at the time...
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(1) Mangaplus Page 14 the 8th panel Blink and you miss: that's a surprised face worth of some million berries... Found my catalyst... still funny? Yep... yep... yep...
(2) God Enel could policy an entire Island cause his unique combination of Goro Goro no Mi and color of observation... but Aisa from the same arc too was capable of feeling voices around all Island disappearing during Enel's elimination game... A thing interesting about Wano is that they are the guys that created the Poneglyphs but their knowledge is barely elementar to the point of calling Devil Fruits 'jutsu/magic'... They call the color of armament Ryuuou too... I don't think it's beyond Oda-sensei calling the color of observation some other fancy name and the reason the Kurozumi clan was once hated for...
1 - @LeEpicMinecrafter @Rosen_Ritter Flashback Kaido was a proper pirate: sober (ymmv), evil and not beyond cheap tricks to win... A lowly pirate establishing his territory... 20 yrs later Nowadays Kaido is a depressive and suicidal drunkard that holds the title of strongest... would be funny if something Oden said to him from inside the boiling pot is the catalyst for such radical change(1)...
2 - @breizh @lastKANAshimi @Lemillion There's no such a thing as a traitor... The catch is that someone in Orochi ranks have an incredible user of the color of observation(2)... And Kaido's reveal is just to seed doubt between his enemies... I would dare to say he defeated Moria with the same scheme... It should be a downer to see Inuarashi pursuing his own tail for 20 years (and all the readers for so many chapters), but funny nonetheless...
3 - @mhaaad @coq1 I think that "ruining" Oden character is the right feel since this is how everybody in Wano feels about him... It's a time of despair and only the few that dare to call themselves his allies would really accept him with little to no question... I myself am questioning how Enma that forces a Color of Armament infused blade wasn't capable of breaking a Bari Bari Barrier at the time...
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mr. Poneis
(1) Mangaplus Page 14 the 8th panel Blink and you miss: that's a surprised face worth of some million berries... Found my catalyst... still funny? Yep... yep... yep...
(2) God Enel could policy an entire Island cause his unique combination of Goro Goro no Mi and color of observation... but Aisa from the same arc too was capable of feeling voices around all Island disappearing during Enel's elimination game... A thing interesting about Wano is that they are the guys that created the Poneglyphs but their knowledge is barely elementar to the point of calling Devil Fruits 'jutsu/magic'... They call the color of armament Ryuuou too... I don't think it's beyond Oda-sensei calling the color of observation some other fancy name and the reason the Kurozumi clan was once hated for...
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