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Hello everyone. I'd like to hear your predictions for the next chapter. My prediction is:
1. Soske will find out who had the tattoo.
2. Misato's rescue by Soske's team. It's possible to happen behind the scenes.
3. The appearance of Iwabuchi. The beginning of the realisation of the heartbreaking plan.
1. Probably. If MITA and Hakaru played good, it could lead another key character, not Shuri. With Shuri appearing later;
2. Also, probably. I'd like to see Akiba earning Misato's trust in this action;
3. Considering the pace, i think Iwabuchi would only appear near the end, with the plan beggining in front of Sousuke.
 
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1. Probably. If MITA and Hakaru played good, it could lead another key character, not Shuri. With Shuri appearing later;
2. Also, probably. I'd like to see Akiba earning Misato's trust in this action;
3. Considering the pace, i think Iwabuchi would only appear near the end, with the plan beggining in front of Sousuke.
I half expect it to be Iwabuchi "appearing" to be railing Rika in front of Sousuke. Maybe as a live broadcast, so it could still potentially be fabricated and sold as "her not actually doing it", but totally possible, yep, for sure.

Feels like the most surefire way to break Sousuke down, at least. Then just have a couple women right there "ready to comfort him in his distress", conveniently recorded for Rika's needs.



Then some convoluted plot device transpires, where Iwabuchi thought it was Rika (wearing a mask or something to obscure identity), but then Misato & Akebi show up and capture him, revealing it wasn't Rika, but Shuri in the mask, saving her, and she brings forth the damning evidence she initially found and gets Iwabuchi in the end. Thus capturing him, and he falls victim to and is ruined by the very people he sought to exploit.

And Rika is off in a different room watching it play out on another screen, getting enraged at Sousuke not falling, and then even more mad when she sees Akebi go to him and Sousuke being emotionally close with her.

Which prompts Rika to finally show herself and make her big move


Or something. It's late and I should be sleeping.
 
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I half expect it to be Iwabuchi "appearing" to be railing Rika in front of Sousuke. Maybe as a live broadcast, so it could still potentially be fabricated and sold as "her not actually doing it", but totally possible, yep, for sure.

Feels like the most surefire way to break Sousuke down, at least. Then just have a couple women right there "ready to comfort him in his distress", conveniently recorded for Rika's needs.



Then some convoluted plot device transpires, where Iwabuchi thought it was Rika (wearing a mask or something to obscure identity), but then Misato & Akebi show up and capture him, revealing it wasn't Rika, but Shuri in the mask, saving her, and she brings forth the damning evidence she initially found and gets Iwabuchi in the end. Thus capturing him, and he falls victim to and is ruined by the very people he sought to exploit.

And Rika is off in a different room watching it play out on another screen, getting enraged at Sousuke not falling, and then even more mad when she sees Akebi go to him and Sousuke being emotionally close with her.

Which prompts Rika to finally show herself and make her big move


Or something. It's late and I should be sleeping.
It seems to me that there will be a presence at the party rather than a video broadcast. Iwabuchi will bring a double with whom the guests of the party will "play". The double will have to play the role that she enjoys all this. After that, she'll have to have sex with Soska, that's Rika's plan. And when Soske is busy with a double, the real Rika will have to appear. But even if this plan fails, Rika can say that Soske has always been wrong, because the double is the real Momonga. But from some insignificant detail, Soska will immediately realise that it's not Rika, maybe it will be a mole or something else. Then Soska will realise that there are no stars of "secret accounts" at the party. He will tell all the guests present what will cause their indignation. In this case, Iwabuchi will lose not only his main earnings, but also the support of "influential" friends. While all this is happening at the party, Soske's team will catch Rika and save Misato.

Well, and my second theory. We all forgot about Satsuki, or rather about her promise. I suspect that Satsuki is hiding behind Paopao's mask. When Iwabuchi appears with the double, Satsuki, thinking that the double is Rika, will try to kill her. But at the very last moment, Soske will take a blow on himself, protecting the double, he will begin to bleed. Watching all this, Rika will run to save Soska, she realises that because of her behind-the-scenes games she almost lost her closest and beloved person. Coming to Soska, she will begin to repent, ask for forgiveness, and so on. In this case, the fall of Iwabuchi will happen due to the fact that Rika chooses Soska, not him.
 
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Unimportant chapters this week 🙂
I agree with you, there is nothing interesting in the chapter at all. The only thing that's pretty funny is that Akiba climbed onto the third floor with a rope. And suspicions arise due to the absence of the rest of the team.
 
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Ladies and gentlemen


Only today, on page 19 of chapter 85, you can witness the artist at the absolute peak of their craft:


  1. Lady Akiba Megumi’s uncolored hand, where only the outline is visible.
  2. The "lost" hand in the other panels.

After this, any further discussion about the manga's "visual quality" will be entirely unnecessary.
 
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About chapter 85:
  • Chapter starts with the man still over Misato. He explains the vibe with the hand is his joy, and custom-made, the size of a horse;
  • After taking off her mask, he remarks how she resemples Yuuka, and that, he would make her into a big talent, just as momonga;
  • Misato's thoughts are about how this man doesn't listen to the wishs of a girl, the worst kind of pervert;
  • The keys are beyond her reach, and the only hope she has is the window. She managed to unlock it in secret, before being tied. The room is in the 3rd floor, so one of Sousuke's friends could enter it(?!);
  • The man tries to reassure her, by saying he will not insert something so big first. Instead, he will proceed with a smaller one first, to loosen her, and then make her ready enough to insert the big one later. Misato wonders if he's even sane;
  • In her thoughts, she remarks that she never felt anything while being touched from men who were not her romantic partners. Not even from the ones who were from Iwabuchi's jobs. Here as well, she doesn't feel anything by being touched by this person, except disgust;
  • The man uses the vibe on her. She squirms a little, but seems to enjoy it. Her feelings get mixed between the disgust from the man, and the pleasure from the vibe, with she denying feeling so good. The man asks her if she's feeling good;
  • He states that those items are different from the ones in the market, there's no woman who still haven't cum from them. He then shows her a bigger one, ready to try it, but from outside;
  • As she's sensible from the first one, she shows a tender/horny expression( from cumming earlier). The man becomes a little red, and talks about her expression;
  • He says he wants to see more of her before filming, and asks her to insert. She denies. He asks her, if so, they can continue, as he still has more interesting toys to play with, from outside. He has a great Vibe collection;
  • He still wants to go on, and Misato, changing her expression a little, asks him to lick her a little down there, as she enjoys it. The man boasts himself about this and begins to talk about money and filming, while starting;
  • Suddenly, she closes her legs between his head, and while he breathes harder, she starts saying that, since the begining, she wanted to tell him something. How gross he is, and that even if you like someone, if they're not your type, there's no way you'd enjoy being touched, let alone being licked, by them. There's no such woman out there;
  • As he begins to faint, he wonders why is this happening to him, as the vibes always gave the women he knew the pleasure, and even paid them. Misato screams for him to learn his lesson, that women are not his toys, as he passes out;
  • As she enjoys her victory, Misato wonders how she's gonna escape, as the key is out of her reach. She can, however, reach the lamp near the bed and starts making it blink;
  • Akiba notices it and escalates to the room, releasing Misato, and giving her a change of clothes. She asks if Misato is OK, to which Misato confirms;
  • However, Misato asks if it's only Akiba there, if it's OK and where are the others. Akiba explains that they have children and can't risk themselves so much, but asked to make other preparations elsewhere, to which Misato just repeats the "preparation?". Akiba asks that, nevertheless, they must get going, too;
  • Chapter ends with Akiba saying that their priority is finding Yamada Rika, who's somewhere in the hotel. For Sousuke's sake.

About Misato's speach to the pervert: i guess is just to address the common trope( more present in NTR, but not exclusive to it) that the disgusting guy will have his way with the cute girl and she will enjoy and fall for him.
 
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Ok, filler chapter... 20 pages that could've been sorted in 5. With blatant drawing errors that are a big "because fuck you, that's why" to the paying readers.
 
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Ladies and gentlemen


Only today, on page 19 of chapter 85, you can witness the artist at the absolute peak of their craft:


  1. Lady Akiba Megumi’s uncolored hand, where only the outline is visible.
  2. The "lost" hand in the other panels.

After this, any further discussion about the manga's "visual quality" will be entirely unnecessary.
I think that the man foot but yes no outline there.
 
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After taking off her mask, he remarks how she resemples Yuuka, and that, he would make her into a big talent, just as momonga;
Sorry, a slight correction from me. The old man didn't say Misato looks like Yuuka. What he actually said was, "Te yuu ka kimi, Masuku tottara kawaii ne." (Anyway, you are really cute once you take off your mask). So, 'te yuu ka' here is an expression of surprise or unexpectedness. We could translate it as, 'By the way, you are really quite cute once your mask is off.' It does not refer to an individual or the name Yuuka.

In this scene, if fully his dialogue is "Te yuu ka kimi, Masuku tottara kawaii ne. Kimi wo 'Momonga Channeru' wo koeru itsuzai ni shite ageru!" (By the way, you are really quite cute once your mask is off. I will turn you into a talent that surpasses the 'Momonga Channel'!")
 
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Sorry, a slight correction from me. The old man didn't say Misato looks like Yuuka. What he actually said was, "Te yuu ka kimi, Masuku tottara kawaii ne." (Anyway, you are really cute once you take off your mask). So, 'te yuu ka' here is an expression of surprise or unexpectedness. We could translate it as, 'By the way, you are really quite cute once your mask is off.' It does not refer to an individual or the name Yuuka.

In this scene, if fully his dialogue is "Te yuu ka kimi, Masuku tottara kawaii ne. Kimi wo 'Momonga Channeru' wo koeru itsuzai ni shite ageru!" (By the way, you are really quite cute once your mask is off. I will turn you into a talent that surpasses the 'Momonga Channel'!")
Don't be sorry! Actually, thank you for that! I tried doing the best speed translation possible this time, as the chapter didn't have too much key dialogue...
 
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About chapter 85:
  • Chapter starts with the man still over Misato. He explains the vibe with the hand is his joy, and custom-made, the size of a horse;
  • After taking off her mask, he remarks how she resemples Yuuka, and that, he would make her into a big talent, just as momonga;
  • Misato's thoughts are about how this man doesn't listen to the wishs of a girl, the worst kind of pervert;
  • The keys are beyond her reach, and the only hope she has is the window. She managed to unlock it in secret, before being tied. The room is in the 3rd floor, so one of Sousuke's friends could enter it(?!);
  • The man tries to reassure her, by saying he will not insert something so big first. Instead, he will proceed with a smaller one first, to loosen her, and then make her ready enough to insert the big one later. Misato wonders if he's even sane;
  • In her thoughts, she remarks that she never felt anything while being touched from men who were not her romantic partners. Not even from the ones who were from Iwabuchi's jobs. Here as well, she doesn't feel anything by being touched by this person, except disgust;
  • The man uses the vibe on her. She squirms a little, but seems to enjoy it. Her feelings get mixed between the disgust from the man, and the pleasure from the vibe, with she denying feeling so good. The man asks her if she's feeling good;
  • He states that those items are different from the ones in the market, there's no woman who still haven't cum from them. He then shows her a bigger one, ready to try it, but from outside;
  • As she's sensible from the first one, she shows a tender/horny expression( from cumming earlier). The man becomes a little red, and talks about her expression;
  • He says he wants to see more of her before filming, and asks her to insert. She denies. He asks her, if so, they can continue, as he still has more interesting toys to play with, from outside. He has a great Vibe collection;
  • He still wants to go on, and Misato, changing her expression a little, asks him to lick her a little down there, as she enjoys it. The man boasts himself about this and begins to talk about money and filming, while starting;
  • Suddenly, she closes her legs between his head, and while he breathes harder, she starts saying that, since the begining, she wanted to tell him something. How gross he is, and that even if you like someone, if they're not your type, there's no way you'd enjoy being touched, let alone being licked, by them. There's no such woman out there;
  • As he begins to faint, he wonders why is this happening to him, as the vibes always gave the women he knew the pleasure, and even paid them. Misato screams for him to learn his lesson, that women are not his toys, as he passes out;
  • As she enjoys her victory, Misato wonders how she's gonna escape, as the key is out of her reach. She can, however, reach the lamp near the bed and starts making it blink;
  • Akiba notices it and escalates to the room, releasing Misato, and giving her a change of clothes. She asks if Misato is OK, to which Misato confirms;
  • However, Misato asks if it's only Akiba there, if it's OK and where are the others. Akiba explains that they have children and can't risk themselves so much, but asked to make other preparations elsewhere, to which Misato just repeats the "preparation?". Akiba asks that, nevertheless, they must get going, too;
  • Chapter ends with Akiba saying that their priority is finding Yamada Rika, who's somewhere in the hotel. For Sousuke's sake.

About Misato's speach to the pervert: i guess is just to address the common trope( more present in NTR, but not exclusive to it) that the disgusting guy will have his way with the cute girl and she will enjoy and fall for him.
Well in most ntr's the reason the women falls for the rapist is because they have been corrupted/brainwash or the rapist puts them under mind control from the start. Their are also some story's were the mc gets his girlfriend or wife or harem back and the ntr guy loses
 
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Well in most ntr's the reason the women falls for the rapist is because they have been corrupted/brainwash or the rapist puts them under mind control from the start. Their are also some story's were the mc gets his girlfriend or wife or harem back and the ntr guy loses
However, unless hypnosis from day 1, most corruptions/brainwashes occur after some blackmail and mind break from excessive pleasure. Heck, even some doujins from Carn( author of Otomo Dori) treat the woman as being in denial of said things either because the mind break was too rooted and thinking through would destroy their psyche, or they really just wanted an excuse to cheat and not face the reality of their needs.

The other NTR stories about the cuck getting everything back are either Netori or just some compensation/karmic retribution.

The thing with Misato is how, instead of falling into pleasure, she straight up found it physically repulsive. And mentally, she only survived due to telling herself that she was a whore. Probably, if she didn't, she would've attempted against her own life earlier.

Now, i'm not saying that NTR stories don't exist in real life, like with Runa Narumi. Even i know of a motherly one( not incest, thank you). I'm saying that the majority are more in line with Misato's take than their hentai-kink counterpart.
 
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However, unless hypnosis from day 1, most corruptions/brainwashes occur after some blackmail and mind break from excessive pleasure. Heck, even some doujins from Carn( author of Otomo Dori) treat the woman as being in denial of said things either because the mind break was too rooted and thinking through would destroy their psyche, or they really just wanted an excuse to cheat and not face the reality of their needs.

The other NTR stories about the cuck getting everything back are either Netori or just some compensation/karmic retribution.

The thing with Misato is how, instead of falling into pleasure, she straight up found it physically repulsive. And mentally, she only survived due to telling herself that she was a whore. Probably, if she didn't, she would've attempted against her own life earlier.

Now, i'm not saying that NTR stories don't exist in real life, like with Runa Narumi. Even i know of a motherly one( not incest, thank you). I'm saying that the majority are more in line with Misato's take than their hentai-kink counterpart.
In most ntr the ntr guy can only get the women by rapeing and brainwashing/corrupting them, And the guy that get's his women stolen is able to get the women to love him by just being his kind self so in the end the rapist ntr guy is the real loser.

There are some adult games with ntr, Were the ntr can be Avoidable and in one game I heard about the ntr guy can get killed by a female serial killer that can framed the mc in some endings and some games have the mc killing the ntr guy, And some games were the women gets saved before There corruption has them killing the ntr guy.
 
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In most ntr the ntr guy can only get the women by rapeing and brainwashing/corrupting them, And the guy that get's his women stolen is able to get the women to love him by just being his kind self so in the end the rapist ntr guy is the real loser.

There are some adult games with ntr, Were the ntr can be Avoidable and in one game I heard about the ntr guy can get killed by a female serial killer that can framed the mc in some endings and some games have the mc killing the ntr guy, And some games were the women gets saved before There corruption has them killing the ntr guy.
Not most NTR. Most, actually, still fall for the OLD "he's got a bigger dick than my husband/boyfriend" trope, and even in the scenario where there's not a brainwash/blackmail/hypnosis, there's cuck starts getting off to Netorase. Only in the sheer Netori-bound stories does the cuck actually get the girl back.

The one you're mentioning is probably Scream, by Poison Motion. In Kabe no Mukou no Tsuma games, the MC will inevitably be cucked, but how he proceeds is up to him( in 1, he can get compensation sex, divorce, or even stay, only to find out she's pregnant and still seeing her lover. In 2, he can do the cucking, evolve to swapping, or even develop an ED and choose to be cucked out of afliction).

Regardless, from Otomo Dori to Kedamono-tachi no sumu Ie, passing a little by Tsuma ni Damatte Sokubaikai ni Ikun ja Nakatta and into "the pluckered flower", the girl's always forced into sex, enjoys it instatly, becomes addicted, and either treats the cucked like trash, is passive until a possible breakdown on both of them, or makes them enjoy the netorase.

Misato's speach is more grounded on overall true( outside the kink) experience. While some of the girls may be enjoying themselves in the act( i'll not use an infamous quote from a certain polititian from my country), truth is, it's not easy to fall on the most common tropes as shown in fiction. It's disgusting and puts a strain in the mind as well.
 
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Not most NTR. Most, actually, still fall for the OLD "he's got a bigger dick than my husband/boyfriend" trope, and even in the scenario where there's not a brainwash/blackmail/hypnosis, there's cuck starts getting off to Netorase. Only in the sheer Netori-bound stories does the cuck actually get the girl back.

The one you're mentioning is probably Scream, by Poison Motion. In Kabe no Mukou no Tsuma games, the MC will inevitably be cucked, but how he proceeds is up to him( in 1, he can get compensation sex, divorce, or even stay, only to find out she's pregnant and still seeing her lover. In 2, he can do the cucking, evolve to swapping, or even develop an ED and choose to be cucked out of afliction).

Regardless, from Otomo Dori to Kedamono-tachi no sumu Ie, passing a little by Tsuma ni Damatte Sokubaikai ni Ikun ja Nakatta and into "the pluckered flower", the girl's always forced into sex, enjoys it instatly, becomes addicted, and either treats the cucked like trash, is passive until a possible breakdown on both of them, or makes them enjoy the netorase.

Misato's speach is more grounded on overall true( outside the kink) experience. While some of the girls may be enjoying themselves in the act( i'll not use an infamous quote from a certain polititian from my country), truth is, it's not easy to fall on the most common tropes as shown in fiction. It's disgusting and puts a strain in the mind as well.
In the end the ntr guy's that uses rape even if they have a bigger dick then the mc and thats part of reason they break, The ntr guys are still the real losers because they have to rape and corrupt/brainwashed the women to get them.

In otomo dori is'nt the main plot that the mc sister wanted to be in a incest relationship with her brother so she had the mc girlfriend kidnap and gang raped untill she broke and gets corrupted, in the end the rapist in ntr's are the real losers,

As for adult only games their are non netori games were the ntr can be avoided completely or the mc can save his girlfriend or wife or harem before they gets corrupted I'm talking about adult games with Multiple endings
 
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In the end the ntr guy's that uses rape even if they have a bigger dick then the mc and thats part of reason they break, The ntr guys are still the real losers because they have to rape and corrupt/brainwashed the women to get them.

In otomo dori is'nt the main plot that the mc sister wanted to be in a incest relationship with her brother so she had the mc girlfriend kidnap and gang raped untill she broke and gets corrupted, in the end the rapist in ntr's are the real losers,

As for adult only games their are non netori games were the ntr can be avoided completely or the mc can save his girlfriend or wife or harem before they gets corrupted I'm talking about adult games with Multiple endings
How does that makes them the losers? The main point of those stories is that sheer lust outdoes pure love. If the guy loses his wife/girlfriend( siscon who loses his sister, or a mother who decides to abandon him) to a guy who has a bigger dick/ screws her better, THEY are the losers. That's it. True, in some stories there's some sort of epilogue, tender closure or even more despair, but that's just to the reader, the character is already far gone.

In Otome Dori it IS the main plot. Kazuki's sister being furious that he choose Otome over her does not change the fact that Kazuki is forced to see the woman he loves being broken by lust over and over again, due to being blackmailed. He even ends up with her and 2 childs who are not his. What changes is that Kazuki's sister uses her hatred to put Otome in her place of being blackmailed by the old rich guys. Worse, one of the guys is a big shot from the conglomerate whose business Kazuki is part of, later on, so it's unavoidable. Otome does indeed break, but his sister does not. Not only that, he is disowned by his family after his sister has her way with him. Kazuki IS the loser of this story.

I see, but those are a myriad, and NTR is just a small, avoidable part of them. I used Kabe bo Mukuo no tsuma 2 mainly because the 3 games focuses on NTR, but 2 is the only one which can be avoided somewhat and fall into swapping. Or is it other adult game you have in mind?
 
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How does that makes them the losers? The main point of those stories is that sheer lust outdoes pure love. If the guy loses his wife/girlfriend( siscon who loses his sister, or a mother who decides to abandon him) to a guy who has a bigger dick/ screws her better, THEY are the losers. That's it. True, in some stories there's some sort of epilogue, tender closure or even more despair, but that's just to the reader, the character is already far gone.

In Otome Dori it IS the main plot. Kazuki's sister being furious that he choose Otome over her does not change the fact that Kazuki is forced to see the woman he loves being broken by lust over and over again, due to being blackmailed. He even ends up with her and 2 childs who are not his. What changes is that Kazuki's sister uses her hatred to put Otome in her place of being blackmailed by the old rich guys. Worse, one of the guys is a big shot from the conglomerate whose business Kazuki is part of, later on, so it's unavoidable. Otome does indeed break, but his sister does not. Not only that, he is disowned by his family after his sister has her way with him. Kazuki IS the loser of this story.

I see, but those are a myriad, and NTR is just a small, avoidable part of them. I used Kabe bo Mukuo no tsuma 2 mainly because the 3 games focuses on NTR, but 2 is the only one which can be avoided somewhat and fall into swapping. Or is it other adult game you have in mind?
I'm not saying they are losers that way i'm saying they are losers in that the only way that they can get women is by rapeing and brainwashing them
 
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How does that makes them the losers? The main point of those stories is that sheer lust outdoes pure love. If the guy loses his wife/girlfriend( siscon who loses his sister, or a mother who decides to abandon him) to a guy who has a bigger dick/ screws her better, THEY are the losers. That's it. True, in some stories there's some sort of epilogue, tender closure or even more despair, but that's just to the reader, the character is already far gone.

In Otome Dori it IS the main plot. Kazuki's sister being furious that he choose Otome over her does not change the fact that Kazuki is forced to see the woman he loves being broken by lust over and over again, due to being blackmailed. He even ends up with her and 2 childs who are not his. What changes is that Kazuki's sister uses her hatred to put Otome in her place of being blackmailed by the old rich guys. Worse, one of the guys is a big shot from the conglomerate whose business Kazuki is part of, later on, so it's unavoidable. Otome does indeed break, but his sister does not. Not only that, he is disowned by his family after his sister has her way with him. Kazuki IS the loser of this story.

I see, but those are a myriad, and NTR is just a small, avoidable part of them. I used Kabe bo Mukuo no tsuma 2 mainly because the 3 games focuses on NTR, but 2 is the only one which can be avoided somewhat and fall into swapping. Or is it other adult game you have in mind?
well one of the adult games that I was talking about only have 3 bad endings that end in ntr and the other bad endings witch there are a lot of are not ntr and then there are three good endings witch depending on one choice has the mc getting with one of three heroine's and the 2 that are not chosen stay's as good friends wih the the mc and the chosen girlfriend.

There are games that are listed as ntr were you play as the women that gets stolen and and some chosen option's can make the rape and the cucking of the mc boyfriend or husband avoidable,

There is also a game that has a ntr tag said game that has dlc that take place after the bad ending were the mc gets mind control by the main villain, the dlc of said game is called the ntr dlc and the dlc has a male serial rapist ntring a female serial rapist that can use magic to turn her self into a futa and you play as the woman that gets stolen and goes round brainwashing the other female characters. The main game also has a female villain with tentacles and a female villain that weres a strap-on and the main villain is a female that can use magic to turn her self into a futa, And the final boss is a corrupted version of the mc that got turned into a futa by a masked man and the masked man gets taken out with one hit by the person he corrupted, the only male villain that the mc fights in the main game is the first villain.

A there are games that has have no ntr in them even thought the name of the game has the word ntr in the name of the game.

Some games with avoidable ntr can have the mc killing the ntr guy in very violent ways.
There is a game were one of the endings has the mc getting ntred by one of the ntr guys and the mc rip's the ntr guy's dick off forcing the ntr guy to eat his own dick, After killing the ntr guy the mc gets his wife back. Aother ending were the ntr is avoidable has the mc saving his wife from getting gang rape by killing a biker gang the mc gets arrested for murder and he gets out lest then a week later were he is reunited with his wife.

Any way what ending do you think this manga is going to get
 
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