Alcafus - Vol. 3 Ch. 13 - Omen

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just impale the guy.

@Huapollon
They aren't considered humans but they are seem as domesticated animals, plus, any normal person still loathe cruelty towards any animal.
Have you ever heard of ANT*FA, they do physically atk anyone with an opinion different of theirs.
 
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Really?
"Please stop."
That's not a very cathartic conclusion.
 
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@Huapollon Uh, dude, did you forget that MC was isekai'd from our world? He treats Cafus the way he does because it's weird how they're treated like pets or otherwise possessable objects, especially since one of them looks exactly like someone he knew in his original world. To him, this guy might as well be straight up murdering people.

So yeah, it's pretty weird he is apparently just going to let this guy go with a "please stop, you learned your lesson lol", especially when no one is really sure what lesson he just learned was.
 
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Such a disgustingly light scolding feels wrong, sand I hope this guy's former stone harem or even the guests and guards he tried to monsterize takes their pound of flesh, but at the same time I kinda understand the mc being distracted by the fact he activated some sort of crazy magic to resurrect a bunch of catgirls by destroying some sort of soulstone.
 
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Wait... So if he has some sort of "muscle" memory of actions to take to undo the soul entrapment, does that mean that he used to be someone in the their world? But if we go by "my master" then, he was there a long time ago. And if we go by the fact that we had a view back into the past where he lived normally on "earth" and his play mate was taken back to their world by the master, does that mean that there are multiple masters or is it just that someone one day forced upon him memories and actions that he now has "muscle" memory for?

TLDR: Is this some wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff going on here?
 
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Always fucks me up with people wanting/defending slave owning isekai protagonists. (Not you) Like, normal person getting a power or going to another world and just being like "OH, GUESS I'LL JUST GO OWN A PERSON NOW" and people defending it always fucks me up.
 
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Slavery as an institution back in the day was basically prison.

Basically if you had a town of 20 or so people, and 1 person committed a crime, you could not afford to put that person in a jail, and feed them to keep them alive until they repented their actions. So the only choice they'd have is small punishments, death or to ignore the crime. If a person was a rapist, the worst that would happen would be they'd have to go without dinner basically, because that person was a valuable worker.

That's where slavery came in. Slavers came and took these criminals, and paid the townspeople for these criminals. The townspeople would use that money in another town to buy food and stuff, while getting rid of their offending person.

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Obviously any business that has the profit motive of needing able-bodied workers will naturally get corrupted through capitalism. I'm not trying to defend slavery here.

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Thing is, in these stories, owning a slave isn't as world-shattering an idea as you might think. It's either you own the person as a slave, and keep them alive, or free them. Set them out into society where they have no means to support themselves and wind up in slavery again. None of the isekai slave owning protagonists ever keeps a socially well-adjusted slave, or a slave that would make it on it's own in the society they live in. If it's a beastman slave, there's a lot of beastman racists out there, that if you DID free your slave, they'd never find a job and would probably wind up in a shit position in a week minimum.

Slavery is BAD. Heck the heroes often understand this, and take steps within their ability to mitigate it, but social change isn't easy.
 
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Talk about a slap on the wrist. What is he, a US senator? Hiyo! I'll see myself out
 
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Yeah, let's just talk this one out instead of fighting. Who are you, Steven Universe?
 
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As to why this particular arrangement - the hero not simply killing a villain who seems to clearly deserve it - happens so often in manga and anime, it really comes down to differences in cultural priorities. Here's a decent article that explores the concepts in more detail: https://blog.tkmarnell.com/east-asian-storytelling/ Yeah, I find it frustrating too, but if you're going to continue to read manga, you're going to continue running into this exact scenario over and over. If you can't at least accept that it's going to continue happening, you're probably better off looking for different entertainment.

@sirflimflam You're absolutely right, he was isekaied from our world - where most people don't just go around killing each other. Unless you've been trained in it (and even trained soldiers can have problems with it) or are a psychopath, killing someone in cold blood is hard to do and hard to reconcile. And that's the situation they're in at the end of this issue, because they have defeated his scheme and he is not trying to attack them. Also, see the previous paragraph.

@jokerxhisoka I've never heard of ANT*FA, they sound horrible. Definitely nothing like Antifa, who literally fight against fascism.
 
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Because your common sense does not apply to their world: It is already established in the beginning that Cafus are not considered to have human rights, but rather pets. Would you go John Wick on the butcher shop because they are killing pigs and cows every day? Would you go into a person's home and kill them for mounting taxidermy deer heads (which in this case is what I'd expect to be the equivalent of the petrified Cafus) on the wall? Even in the modern world, animal rights activists don't go around shooting those "murderers", but rather limit their actions to protests, because otherwise, they'd be committing terrorism or murder themselves.

I'd certainly go John Wick on a butcher shop that was about to butcher my dear cafus. I eat cows and pigs, so why would I care about those, though? If it was a disgusting, filthy butcher shop, yet still kept butchering livestock for sale, I would notify the appropriate authorities of a health hazard. You would have already been able to do that back in the ancient Rome.
 

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