Ame Furi Harete Hana Hikaru - Vol. 2 Ch. 10
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idk what i was expecting from this series, but that was incredibly bittersweet. im glad it was only 10 chapters lol
i feel really bad for Harutaka, he's far more accepting of the whole situation than i could be, but i also cant bring myself to hate Hikaru for abandoning him for her own happiness? i def dont like Hana though lol love is always a hurricane
idk what i was expecting from this series, but that was incredibly bittersweet. im glad it was only 10 chapters lol
i feel really bad for Harutaka, he's far more accepting of the whole situation than i could be, but i also cant bring myself to hate Hikaru for abandoning him for her own happiness? i def dont like Hana though lol love is always a hurricane
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really interesting read, i like that Harutaka was never presented as a particularly bad person, just the wrong person. solid stuff, thanks for the TL's!!
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I’m cobbling together some of my in the moment thoughts for this.
“I think what I found frustrating about this series is that it has the look of a serious introspective story. And I don't really mean the visuals, but I mean in the same way that there is "prestige tv" and oscar-bait films, this feels like the manga version of that. It only works because it's playing off of the expectation that things are happening in between the chapters, emotions and resolutions are occurring for the characters in the spaces in between what we see. And that approach is so incredibly difficult to pull off that, like here, it instead comes off as confused and the characters lack stability. Seven chapters into a story with ten chapters, as in 70% of the way through the story, I still know next to nothing about Hana or her motivations. There comes a point where holding back is no longer sexy or mysterious, it's just poor writing.”
“I've read stories with awful, toxic people in it, and there is something interesting when the story focuses on how those awful people tick, what gets them off, what drives them. This is just nothing. Nothing was learned, both women are awful, and that's it. I can't imagine what the next chapter will be, but it certainly won't change my mind on what a waste this whole manga was.”
“Well, that sucked. I think the bones of the story aren't bad, but this was executed in an uninteresting way with next to no character work.”
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“I think what I found frustrating about this series is that it has the look of a serious introspective story. And I don't really mean the visuals, but I mean in the same way that there is "prestige tv" and oscar-bait films, this feels like the manga version of that. It only works because it's playing off of the expectation that things are happening in between the chapters, emotions and resolutions are occurring for the characters in the spaces in between what we see. And that approach is so incredibly difficult to pull off that, like here, it instead comes off as confused and the characters lack stability. Seven chapters into a story with ten chapters, as in 70% of the way through the story, I still know next to nothing about Hana or her motivations. There comes a point where holding back is no longer sexy or mysterious, it's just poor writing.”
“I've read stories with awful, toxic people in it, and there is something interesting when the story focuses on how those awful people tick, what gets them off, what drives them. This is just nothing. Nothing was learned, both women are awful, and that's it. I can't imagine what the next chapter will be, but it certainly won't change my mind on what a waste this whole manga was.”
“Well, that sucked. I think the bones of the story aren't bad, but this was executed in an uninteresting way with next to no character work.”
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i.. don't know how to feel about this
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I think it was interesting.
I'm curious if the 10 chapters were an imposed constraint, or if that was the author's plan from the get-go, or if it was implemented after-the-fact and the original intention was for a larger count / longer duration. I think the answer to that, would inform more of how I interpret the work we are given, but I don't believe it necessary, given the work we're given.
I do think that getting a bit more detail about Hana would have maybe helped round out her perspective, but I feel satisfied in how she was portrayed through the lens of Hikaru. Hikaru's recollection of Hana was the key--she'd built Hana up into this almost megalithic presence, solely through her perception of the girl, and then the woman. Every instance of contact Hana would have with the world, would be burned into Hikaru's mind. To the point that she turned to photography in Hana's absence, simply to try and record the spaces she once filled.
Even her absence continued to hold immense weight for Hikaru--and as much as she loved Harutaka, Minami said it pretty aptly in chapter 9. She states how First Loves are meant to be left in the past; how she believes that people will choose the present in front of them. But her own admission speaks to the folly that she, that Takuhara, that Hikaru herself succumbs to: that she should have never told her friend that Hana was returning, precisely because of the gravity that woman holds over Hikaru's existence.
And that is very much shown and implied, more than explicitly stated, though I would argue it's the most concrete fact iterated throughout the series. Hana means everything to Hikaru, and no amount of time or distance would dilute that truth. Takuhara filled in the intervening years, but from the moment he sees Hikaru's shift in demeanor upon the first whisperings of someone returning from her past, even he seemed to immediately realize that a shift was taking place.
And, I suspect that was part of his understanding, and his grace in letting her go as he did. Ao was outraged, taking up the mantle of anger and indignation for them both, but he wasn't close to Hikaru like Takuhara was--and because Takuhara loved her so much, I would argue he could see the shift in her, as gravity tilted, and she was inexorably drawn from his side to Hana's. It seemed like he was in the process of coming to terms with Hikaru leaving, even before waking up to the letter on the table. Sure, it hit him when he finally read it--but that general minimized reaction from him coupled with the moments we see him throughout the series up to that point make me think that he knew there was an expiration date on his marriage and on Hikaru remaining in his life.
And...there are some relationships like that. And not all of them are healthy, or good, or "accepted" by those people who surround the ones at the center.
And I think the point here, is that Hikaru is not meant to be "a good person". Just "a person", and those are always messy and rife with marred edges and scars.
But I do think that the point being made is that she chose her happiness, and the one that would leave her with less regret. It might look wrong to people sitting on the outside--certainly the case for Ao and for Minami--but the story is Hikaru's, first and foremost. It was about her finding the place where she felt most at peace and the most centered, and what it would cost to achieve that.
I'm glad I read it. I certainly didn't expect a conventionally happy ending, but I think what we were given satisfied the premise and the trajectories of each character.
And, as far as this one goes, I saw who was TL'ing it and sorta knew I was going to be in for something specific(ish), so.
Thanks for working on this one and bringing it to us.
I'm curious if the 10 chapters were an imposed constraint, or if that was the author's plan from the get-go, or if it was implemented after-the-fact and the original intention was for a larger count / longer duration. I think the answer to that, would inform more of how I interpret the work we are given, but I don't believe it necessary, given the work we're given.
I do think that getting a bit more detail about Hana would have maybe helped round out her perspective, but I feel satisfied in how she was portrayed through the lens of Hikaru. Hikaru's recollection of Hana was the key--she'd built Hana up into this almost megalithic presence, solely through her perception of the girl, and then the woman. Every instance of contact Hana would have with the world, would be burned into Hikaru's mind. To the point that she turned to photography in Hana's absence, simply to try and record the spaces she once filled.
Even her absence continued to hold immense weight for Hikaru--and as much as she loved Harutaka, Minami said it pretty aptly in chapter 9. She states how First Loves are meant to be left in the past; how she believes that people will choose the present in front of them. But her own admission speaks to the folly that she, that Takuhara, that Hikaru herself succumbs to: that she should have never told her friend that Hana was returning, precisely because of the gravity that woman holds over Hikaru's existence.
And that is very much shown and implied, more than explicitly stated, though I would argue it's the most concrete fact iterated throughout the series. Hana means everything to Hikaru, and no amount of time or distance would dilute that truth. Takuhara filled in the intervening years, but from the moment he sees Hikaru's shift in demeanor upon the first whisperings of someone returning from her past, even he seemed to immediately realize that a shift was taking place.
And, I suspect that was part of his understanding, and his grace in letting her go as he did. Ao was outraged, taking up the mantle of anger and indignation for them both, but he wasn't close to Hikaru like Takuhara was--and because Takuhara loved her so much, I would argue he could see the shift in her, as gravity tilted, and she was inexorably drawn from his side to Hana's. It seemed like he was in the process of coming to terms with Hikaru leaving, even before waking up to the letter on the table. Sure, it hit him when he finally read it--but that general minimized reaction from him coupled with the moments we see him throughout the series up to that point make me think that he knew there was an expiration date on his marriage and on Hikaru remaining in his life.
And...there are some relationships like that. And not all of them are healthy, or good, or "accepted" by those people who surround the ones at the center.
And I think the point here, is that Hikaru is not meant to be "a good person". Just "a person", and those are always messy and rife with marred edges and scars.
But I do think that the point being made is that she chose her happiness, and the one that would leave her with less regret. It might look wrong to people sitting on the outside--certainly the case for Ao and for Minami--but the story is Hikaru's, first and foremost. It was about her finding the place where she felt most at peace and the most centered, and what it would cost to achieve that.
I'm glad I read it. I certainly didn't expect a conventionally happy ending, but I think what we were given satisfied the premise and the trajectories of each character.
And, as far as this one goes, I saw who was TL'ing it and sorta knew I was going to be in for something specific(ish), so.
Thanks for working on this one and bringing it to us.
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Well, in the end, the story delivered what was intended from the start, she disregarded everything for the only thing it mattered for her. Harutaka was aware of it and tried to struggle the best he could, he only accepted in the way he did because of that.
I didnt like how it was a decided fact that Hana was broken without giving any context to it. Her character simply had no redeemable features apart from beauty. Her empty gaze for the majority of the story was more ominous than mysterious or appealing.
Although it did delivered, in a way, the daydream Hikaru had since childhood it was in the most unsatisfying way. Also it fail to show any growth from Hikaru. We spent 10 chapters just to watch her struggle and ultimately letting her "feral instinct" dominate her actions.
So yeh, pretty crappy story overall. Nothing to gain or remember from this one. The MC just failed to be relevant and the journey seemed meaningless in the end. The only thing that made GL was Hana gender, apart from that it could had been a bird instead and it wouldnt change much.
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I didnt like how it was a decided fact that Hana was broken without giving any context to it. Her character simply had no redeemable features apart from beauty. Her empty gaze for the majority of the story was more ominous than mysterious or appealing.
Although it did delivered, in a way, the daydream Hikaru had since childhood it was in the most unsatisfying way. Also it fail to show any growth from Hikaru. We spent 10 chapters just to watch her struggle and ultimately letting her "feral instinct" dominate her actions.
So yeh, pretty crappy story overall. Nothing to gain or remember from this one. The MC just failed to be relevant and the journey seemed meaningless in the end. The only thing that made GL was Hana gender, apart from that it could had been a bird instead and it wouldnt change much.
Thanks for the TL
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Would like to like this. I think "girl leaves a stable happy marriage for a more volaite passionate love" can be interesting and maybe even cathartic. I'm sure all of us have wanted to run away from what we have to do and chase what we want to do at some point in our lives. In that way, not giving us any information about Hana would make sense, have Hikaru throw away all that she has for the possibility of getting something beautiful from the unknown, how romantic.
That's not what this story is, I don't think so at least. Maybe I'm too dense to understand it but it feels choked, half-torn between ideas and themes that would all be fun to explore and not fully committing to any of them. Was I supposed to feel bad for Hana? I don't think I do. There's not nearly enough about her to feel any which way, I'd honestly have preferred her to be a consummate homewrecker because at least it would be interesting instead of confusing. Was I supposed to hate Hikaru? Maybe I do but I'm moreso confused by her reasoning to leave it all behind. There's just not enough here to feel good or bad about it.
This was really funny though. Yeah, the thing that makes most GL that is the fact that the main relationship is between girls. If my grandmother had wheels she would be a bicycle!
That's not what this story is, I don't think so at least. Maybe I'm too dense to understand it but it feels choked, half-torn between ideas and themes that would all be fun to explore and not fully committing to any of them. Was I supposed to feel bad for Hana? I don't think I do. There's not nearly enough about her to feel any which way, I'd honestly have preferred her to be a consummate homewrecker because at least it would be interesting instead of confusing. Was I supposed to hate Hikaru? Maybe I do but I'm moreso confused by her reasoning to leave it all behind. There's just not enough here to feel good or bad about it.
This was really funny though. Yeah, the thing that makes most GL that is the fact that the main relationship is between girls. If my grandmother had wheels she would be a bicycle!
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What an interesting read the build up the manga had didn't rlly feel like she'd actually leave haru for Hana... It felt that maybe she'd be able to let go of the pass..
Reading this, a saying came to my mind "love is a like a drug", I believe Hikaru never wanted to move on from Hana. Hana is her drug.
That's why she took up photography - to take pictures of things that reminded her of Hana. It did eventually branch out into other more than that ig...
If u were to ask me who the worst person is in this manga I'd say it's Hikaru 'cuz she should've known better... Maybe her n Haru wasn't a good match but her running away was a big-fat-middle-finger to everyone who cared about her.
Interesting read this overall, deffinently didn't regret reading it. If it had more chapters, with out a doubt, it'd be like watching car crash. Hard to look away from...
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Reading this, a saying came to my mind "love is a like a drug", I believe Hikaru never wanted to move on from Hana. Hana is her drug.
That's why she took up photography - to take pictures of things that reminded her of Hana. It did eventually branch out into other more than that ig...
If u were to ask me who the worst person is in this manga I'd say it's Hikaru 'cuz she should've known better... Maybe her n Haru wasn't a good match but her running away was a big-fat-middle-finger to everyone who cared about her.
Interesting read this overall, deffinently didn't regret reading it. If it had more chapters, with out a doubt, it'd be like watching car crash. Hard to look away from...
Thanks for translating this piece of media
