Ano Toki Tasukete Itadaita Monster Musume desu. - Ch. 4

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Lmao. Dreaming boy has a harem with the student council girls and hanging out with a gamer girl was a harem with the gyaru and expressionless girl spent month with the blonde tsun love rival. Kaguya had the assistant constant be a secondary love interest, Nagaroro tried to force a rivalry with the student council president then the sister.

Even in your list, most of them did needlessly forced in other girls
Eh, you can try read Shoujo manga or anime if you tired of shounen rom com that forced in other girls to like the male protagonist.
For example like, Koi Mudaguchi, Shounen no, Homurakun, mesu mama.
 
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These "monster girl" designs suck ass. Where's the monster part? This shit would never fly in Monster Musume. You could have cut the spider aspect entirely and this chapter would be nearly identical.


How on earth did I end up reading four chapters of this crap. The art is mid, the character designs are bland, the characters have cardboard personalities, the plot is barely even there, and the age gap is gross.
 
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If we go by stereotype, the spider girl must have struck it rich through her weaving skill and became an unparalleled tailor, so I guess it means she can become the fashion since she can make it herself…I’m reading too much into this I think

Thanks for the translation
 
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:worry: WTF
Average Japanese workforce experience :meguupog:
 
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will all the monsters turn into big bobba girls?
What is this, Habbo Hotel?

I don’t understand why they don’t just have multiple teachers for the multiple girls. Maybe the angry Elf teacher gets a love interest to soften him up and flesh him out.

You can have a different girl for each subject like the swim teacher and a mermaid, or the math teacher and a vampire. But modern RomComs just can’t do that for some reason. It has to be one MC and it will be a harem, wether the story dictates it or not
Because it's a harem romcom manga and they're all derivative trash by default? I don't really get why this one would be any different.
It's not about it being "derivative trash"-- part of answering a question like that involves asking why the author should care to do any of what's detailed in it.

Why should the author want to soften and flesh out the angry elf teacher? Maybe the value that the mangaka's designated for him is that he's a petty antagonistic force for the protagonist. Maybe there are plans for the guy to be softened up and/or fleshed out through means that don't involve stapling a monster girl to him-- maybe he's going to become a larger antagonistic force, either by forwards or retroactive continuity. The reader's critique that a character ought to be fleshed out has to follow from something, in the first place, because "fleshing out" by itself isn't intrinsically good-- it could be something that makes you like the story even less, or it may be something that you find that you don't care about at any rate.

Why should things be anything other than what they are? Put another way: why should one care about your opinion?

That's a genuine question, too-- I'm not trying to blow people off. Among the many problems reader criticism tends to have, a major one is that hardly anyone making them will ever try to argue why their criticisms should matter to the person reading them. They rattle off criticism clichés like "character development", "no personality", "fleshing out", "pacing", etc. as if there's intrinsic positive value in those concepts that is self-evident and their goal is to state objective facts (that somehow still need stating) rather than convey their perspective in a way that will be the most valuable to others.

I don't go into the comment section of a yaoi manga and say: why the hell did the author make it into a yaoi. It's literally on the tag, I stay away from it and that's it...
Agreed. There's something to be said about nerds (at least, American ones) being unwilling to not insert themselves into places they know they won't enjoy, just so they can subject everyone there to their redundant complaints about the place they knew they wouldn't enjoy.

Like, you have made a conscious decision to click on this instead of just ignoring or deleting it from your view. You knew what it was when you clicked on it, and you continue to be here while you formulate some banal meme or posture like you're not equally here with every other viewer, looking at the same exact thing, for at least the same amount of time.

As most people already pointed out— it’s sad how painfully generic this is.
If this was someone's first manga, it wouldn't be "generic" to them. If they just like monster girl harems in general, it likely wouldn't even matter that it was much like others in that intersection of categories-- they may actually like that for being one more of the thing that they like.

"This is generic" is a solipsistic criticism when you don't qualify it. Not everyone has the same experiences and expectations that you do.

Careful, you'll be called an elitist for pointing out how bad the author fucks up with story writing
It's not elitism-- it's inappropriate criticism. It's like sitting your son down to lay out the plot holes in an episode of Sesame Street-- what are you even there for?
 
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What is this, Habbo Hotel?



It's not about it being "derivative trash"-- part of answering a question like that involves asking why the author should care to do any of what's detailed in it.

Why should the author want to soften and flesh out the angry elf teacher? Maybe the value that the mangaka's designated for him is that he's a petty antagonistic force for the protagonist. Maybe there are plans for the guy to be softened up and/or fleshed out through means that don't involve stapling a monster girl to him-- maybe he's going to become a larger antagonistic force, either by forwards or retroactive continuity. The reader's critique that a character ought to be fleshed out has to follow from something, in the first place, because "fleshing out" by itself isn't intrinsically good-- it could be something that makes you like the story even less, or it may be something that you find that you don't care about at any rate.

Why should things be anything other than what they are? Put another way: why should one care about your opinion?

That's a genuine question, too-- I'm not trying to blow people off. Among the many problems reader criticism tends to have, a major one is that hardly anyone making them will ever try to argue why their criticisms should matter to the person reading them. They rattle off criticism clichés like "character development", "no personality", "fleshing out", "pacing", etc. as if there's intrinsic positive value in those concepts that is self-evident and their goal is to state objective facts (that somehow still need stating) rather than convey their perspective in a way that will be the most valuable to others.


Agreed. There's something to be said about nerds (at least, American ones) being unwilling to not insert themselves into places they know they won't enjoy, just so they can subject everyone there to their redundant complaints about the place they knew they wouldn't enjoy.

Like, you have made a conscious decision to click on this instead of just ignoring or deleting it from your view. You knew what it was when you clicked on it, and you continue to be here while you formulate some banal meme or posture like you're not equally here with every other viewer, looking at the same exact thing, for at least the same amount of time.


If this was someone's first manga, it wouldn't be "generic" to them. If they just like monster girl harems in general, it likely wouldn't even matter that it was much like others in that intersection of categories-- they may actually like that for being one more of the thing that they like.

"This is generic" is a solipsistic criticism when you don't qualify it. Not everyone has the same experiences and expectations that you do.


It's not elitism-- it's inappropriate criticism. It's like sitting your son down to lay out the plot holes in an episode of Sesame Street-- what are you even there for?
This is a lot of words for a comment on a manga but I agree with everything here and sometimes words are needed.

This is an isekai harem manga and the target market is working men who are over 30. Does what it says on the label.
 
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What is this, Habbo Hotel?



It's not about it being "derivative trash"-- part of answering a question like that involves asking why the author should care to do any of what's detailed in it.

Why should the author want to soften and flesh out the angry elf teacher? Maybe the value that the mangaka's designated for him is that he's a petty antagonistic force for the protagonist. Maybe there are plans for the guy to be softened up and/or fleshed out through means that don't involve stapling a monster girl to him-- maybe he's going to become a larger antagonistic force, either by forwards or retroactive continuity. The reader's critique that a character ought to be fleshed out has to follow from something, in the first place, because "fleshing out" by itself isn't intrinsically good-- it could be something that makes you like the story even less, or it may be something that you find that you don't care about at any rate.

Why should things be anything other than what they are? Put another way: why should one care about your opinion?

That's a genuine question, too-- I'm not trying to blow people off. Among the many problems reader criticism tends to have, a major one is that hardly anyone making them will ever try to argue why their criticisms should matter to the person reading them. They rattle off criticism clichés like "character development", "no personality", "fleshing out", "pacing", etc. as if there's intrinsic positive value in those concepts that is self-evident and their goal is to state objective facts (that somehow still need stating) rather than convey their perspective in a way that will be the most valuable to others.


Agreed. There's something to be said about nerds (at least, American ones) being unwilling to not insert themselves into places they know they won't enjoy, just so they can subject everyone there to their redundant complaints about the place they knew they wouldn't enjoy.

Like, you have made a conscious decision to click on this instead of just ignoring or deleting it from your view. You knew what it was when you clicked on it, and you continue to be here while you formulate some banal meme or posture like you're not equally here with every other viewer, looking at the same exact thing, for at least the same amount of time.


If this was someone's first manga, it wouldn't be "generic" to them. If they just like monster girl harems in general, it likely wouldn't even matter that it was much like others in that intersection of categories-- they may actually like that for being one more of the thing that they like.

"This is generic" is a solipsistic criticism when you don't qualify it. Not everyone has the same experiences and expectations that you do.


It's not elitism-- it's inappropriate criticism. It's like sitting your son down to lay out the plot holes in an episode of Sesame Street-- what are you even there for?
Well, tell that to the dumbass who called me that for that very reason
 
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While I do like that concept (as well as the solo MC/love interest romcoms) I also like harems and many other types of romcoms, if a particular story or genre isn't to your liking I suggest that you just don't read it.

There are people who prefer solo romcoms, people who prefer harem romcoms, people who prefer romcoms with multiple different couples, people who prefer status difference romcoms, people who prefer age gap romcoms, people who prefer office romance romcoms etc. Luckily enough there are plenty enough of basicly any type of romcom.
Do you think that every romcom/man(g/hu/hw)a should cater to your preference? If so, why should it be just your preference and not the preference of anyone else?
Don't bother. These people all have a single brain cell that barely functions
 
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The translations are a little rough and the grammar's a little shaky, but hopefully that gets worked out with experience! Aside from that, super cute manga.
 

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