Aragae! Dark Elf-chan - Ch. 33

[MangaDex]

 

[Loliphilosophy]

Hero always knew what she needed was family 🥲

 

[w1987g]

 

[Amariithynar]

Gelda's death was so obvious and foreshadowed, but her reaction to it still made me cry.

 

[Hikineet]

Thanks for the chapter.

 

[T-sama]

Gelda basically died of old age, I honestly expected way worse, like some bandits attack and give them some grapes

 

[albirew]

wait... her furry cape... is it... Gelda's back skin and fur !? dun dun duuuun

 

[Sultan_erin]

wait... her furry cape... is it... Gelda's back skin and fur !? dun dun duuuun

That's Gelda's cape, she buried Gelda with her clothes (mantle?) and take the cape.

 

[albirew]

 

[fetrorunk]

Gelda's death was so obvious and foreshadowed, but her reaction to it still made me cry.

What do you mean by "foreshadowed"? In chapter 15, Elf-chan literally said she was dead.

 

[Amariithynar]

What do you mean by "foreshadowed"? In chapter 15, Elf-chan literally said she was dead.

Yes, that's the foreshadowing for this flashback scene that happened further in the past than that chapter (remember, foreshadowing is simply an indication of something that will happen in the future from that point of time).

 

[fetrorunk]

Yes, that's the foreshadowing for this flashback scene that happened further in the past than that chapter (remember, foreshadowing is simply an indication of something that will happen in the future from that point of time).

...Okay.

Just to state my case, you originally said "Gelda's death was so obvious and foreshadowed", which means you are referring to the death of Gelda being foreshadowed. By your own definition, foreshadowing is "an indication of something that will happen in the future", to which I agree with. However, that means that as you described Gelda's death as being foreshadowed, it implies you also meant that Gelda's death is "something that will happen in the future" according to your definition, which is untrue since it was already stated in a previous chapter that Gelda had already died, meaning her death has already happened in the past.

I think it would've been better if you said that the telling of how Gelda died in the story was foreshadowed, meaning it was indicated in a previous point of time that the readers will be told in the future about the circumstances around her death. This coincides with your definition and is what's actually being foreshadowed in the previous chapters before this one.

Forgive me for the yap, but I hope you'll see where I'm coming from.

tldr; by your definition, gelda's death was something yet to happen before this chapter, but gelda had already died before the events of this story.

 

[Amariithynar]

...Okay.

Just to state my case, you originally said "Gelda's death was so obvious and foreshadowed", which means you are referring to the death of Gelda being foreshadowed. By your own definition, foreshadowing is "an indication of something that will happen in the future", to which I agree with. However, that means that as you described Gelda's death as being foreshadowed, it implies you also meant that Gelda's death is "something that will happen in the future" according to your definition, which is untrue since it was already stated in a previous chapter that Gelda had already died, meaning her death has already happened in the past.

I think it would've been better if you said that the telling of how Gelda died in the story was foreshadowed, meaning it was indicated in a previous point of time that the readers will be told in the future about the circumstances around her death. This coincides with your definition and is what's actually being foreshadowed in the previous chapters before this one.

Forgive me for the yap, but I hope you'll see where I'm coming from.

Again, it is in the future, from the point in time of this flashback sequence.

tldr; by your definition, gelda's death was something yet to happen before this chapter, but gelda had already died before the events of this story.

Correct, by my definition the flashback to before Gelda's death started last chapter, and that was the current timeframe for the story being told, so events that had not happened yet to the current point in time of the story are referred to as being foreshadowed (even if stated outright in the future, shown in a previous chapter); once the flashback ended we returned to the current timeline where Elf-chan is/was sick and recuperating with everyone, leading into going to visit Gelda's grave, and it became solely an event in the past for the story again, rather than current. Story-time is linear to itself, but it can jump to a different point in the timeline of the overall story being told within a given moment.

 

[fetrorunk]

Again, it is in the future, from the point in time of this flashback sequence.

Correct, by my definition the flashback to before Gelda's death started last chapter, and that was the current timeframe for the story being told, so events that had not happened yet to the current point in time of the story are referred to as being foreshadowed (even if stated outright in the future, shown in a previous chapter); once the flashback ended we returned to the current timeline where Elf-chan is/was sick and recuperating with everyone, leading into going to visit Gelda's grave, and it became solely an event in the past for the story again, rather than current. Story-time is linear to itself, but it can jump to a different point in the timeline of the overall story being told within a given moment.

Yes, in your reply you are now referring to the flashback to before Gelda's death, in other words...

the telling of how Gelda died

...as I have mentioned earlier. That was my point, which is to describe the flashback as being foreshadowed rather than Gelda's death itself like what your original comment implied:

Gelda's death was so obvious and foreshadowed, but her reaction to it still made me cry.

To put it simply:

• "Gelda's death was foreshadowed" -> "In previous chapters, the readers believed that Gelda was going to die in this chapter/arc"
• "A flashback to before Gelda's death was foreshadowed" -> "In previous chapters, the readers believed that they were going to get a flashback to before Gelda's death in this chapter/arc"

In which case, the second bullet point is what I believe you are trying to say in your original comment after your two replies.

I hope we're on the same page now, whether you agree with me or agree to disagree. I appreciate the civil discussion, though; it's rare nowadays.

 

[SpecialProjectY]

FFFFFFFuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucccccccckkkkk...

I didn't sign for for this, bring back dark elf-chan tsundare cuteness...