Arifureta: From Commonplace to World's Strongest - Ch. 83

[MiiaBestWaifu]

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maybe if the author would not constantly cuck him I could get that.
yes the "Hero" is a dumb ass thats jealous & sees only his actions as just but, you sure as hell wouldn't be cool if the girls you cared for suddenly start fawning for someone else, and not just talking about Kaori...

just cause someone saves you, doesn't mean you should trust them.
(especially with how MC always goes off about not caring about them, but saving them out of obligation to another)

like the god in this story, he may give his divine blessing or some shit doesn't mean that he's good...

"cucked him"

its not cucking if nobody like him to begin with, without hajime, the useless hero would still be single because nobody like little bitch crying "muuuh im the hero love me"
the only one who like him is a psycho and i dont know if you can say "love"


for me "cucking/ntr" and other word for that are only if both people love each other, if not its not cucking or would you say that all the girl i liked in school time cucked me?

 

[emeraldEnder]

Well, what else where they gonna do with it? Throw it out after going through all that effort of fix it? Might as well put it in storage for a rainy day.

 

[ZeroBADartS]

"cucked him"

its not cucking if nobody like him to begin with, without hajime, the useless hero would still be single because nobody like little bitch crying "muuuh im the hero love me"
the only one who like him is a psycho and i dont know if you can say "love"


for me "cucking/ntr" and other word for that are only if both people love each other, if not its not cucking or would you say that all the girl i liked in school time cucked me?

hey in the novel they actually used the word cuck,

Spoiler

also they kinda make it clear that the class knew how Kouki felt about Kaori and (Ponytail Kendo Trope girl), the problem was "Hero" thought it was basically set that they would be together always without trying to make they're relationship move past friends, and Shizuku didn't even try to just tell him she didn't felt that way about him, even though the group saw Kouki falling deeper into despair/madness.

just felt the author forced that part of the story (Shizuku parts) to fit to a big fight at the end...

 

[MiiaBestWaifu]

hey in the novel they actually used the word cuck,

Spoiler

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also they kinda make it clear that the class knew how Kouki felt about Kaori and (Ponytail Kendo Trope girl), the problem was "Hero" thought it was basically set that they would be together always without trying to make they're relationship move past friends, and Shizuku didn't even try to just tell him she didn't felt that way about him, even though the group saw Kouki falling deeper into despair/madness.

just felt the author forced that part of the story (Shizuku parts) to fit to a big fight at the end

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Still if she was not in love with him its not cucking
Author can use every words he wantband be wrong
its still not cucking she was already in love with hajime in the original world.
You can write à book and still using wrong Word.
If we think like you its mean hajime cucked kaori with Yue in the first place but not its not how its works

Braindead hero fault to think that staying friend with her would make kaori magicaly love him
Not the class fault not hajime fault not kaori fault

 

[AMicrowave]

hey in the novel they actually used the word cuck,

SPOILERS

also they kinda make it clear that the class knew how Kouki felt about Kaori and (Ponytail Kendo Trope girl), the problem was "Hero" thought it was basically set that they would be together always without trying to make they're relationship move past friends, and Shizuku didn't even try to just tell him she didn't felt that way about him, even though the group saw Kouki falling deeper into despair/madness.

just felt the author forced that part of the story (Shizuku parts) to fit to a big fight at the end...

use the spoiler function

 

[Fuew12]

he could have made 1 shoot and ended her, before or while tending kaori.

the problem nagumo didnt want the demon guy got desperate since he also out of ammo after fight with noint, say if nagumo kill necro girl there the demon might think nagumo will also attack them when they going to retreat, they its better for them to die in glory of battle in the name of their god to inflict as many injury as they can rather than retreat here for regroup while feared to be attacked from behind
remember those demon also a zealot that ready to sacrifice their self in the name of their god after all

 

[zerio]

Serious face Noint was hotter.

Yeah, I feel the same both here and the anime.
The new Noint-Kaori is too "pon" lol, though it also matches Kaori's personality.

 

[Fgerjon]

Something happen at least. The last 20 or so chapters is quite hard for me

 

[GreC_89]

guys, hear me out.

now that she got a new body, it means she could do anything that she wanted without worrying about permanent changes like wound, damage and if possible 'pregnancy' .

Kaori is now basically freed to any physical and moral burden. her fragile former body is stored safely by MC and any reckless action or anything horrible happened to her can be easily healed and she can just return when she's satisfied.

what I'm trying to say is..... doujin author or artists please do your magic!

Don't worry, she wasn't tied by such meager burdens to begin with.
What she got a perk of experience its all more than once.
Theseus ship Healing magic dilemma.

LN Spoilers

maybe if the author would not constantly cuck him I could get that.
yes the "Hero" is a dumb ass thats jealous & sees only his actions as just but, you sure as hell wouldn't be cool if the girls you cared for suddenly start fawning for someone else, and not just talking about Kaori...

just cause someone saves you, doesn't mean you should trust them.
(especially with how MC always goes off about not caring about them, but saving them out of obligation to another)

like the god in this story, he may give his divine blessing or some shit doesn't mean that he's good...

Mostly at least. The 'Hero' was having problems even before MC start to steal his childhood-friends. Even back in Japan. Its just a straw that break a camel's back.

 

[Yaderx]

That "frozen body" line is such a massive cop-out. Teenage fanfic writing levels of non-commitment.

Why is it a cop-out? They have restoration magic so any damage that the freezing would cause can be healed back.

Not a fan of the body swap. She was the only one with Priest skills, way more interesting to try and get more magic in this domain than gain another fighter.

She still has the healing abilities.

 

[SifTheFair]

Why is it a cop-out? They have restoration magic so any damage that the freezing would cause can be healed back.


She still has the healing abilities.

If she keeps the healing abilities it's worst tbh.

It's a copt out because now that they can just keep Kaori previous body, there's no consequences for her (even her "determination" is now nullified). She literally just get to jump into another powered up body, then can switch back to her previous one when it'll be time to go back to Japan or if she gets killed.

 

[Yaderx]

If she keeps the healing abilities it's worst tbh.

It's a copt out because now that they can just keep Kaori previous body, there's no consequences for her (even her "determination" is now nullified). She literally just get to jump into another powered up body, then can switch back to her previous one when it'll be time to go back to Japan or if she gets killed.

I mean, the copout at most the would body swap itself (which is a valid complaint imo since the death ended up bieng just a positive), not the freezing of the body like the other dude said. Not being able to keep the body safe would've been bullshit when they already had the restoration magic.

Hard disagree on her determination being nullified. One thing would've been if she already knew Tio got soul magic, but she didn't, Kaori still kept fighting with a sword inside piercing her heart and nothing can take that away from her.

 

[SifTheFair]

I mean, the copout at most the would body swap itself (which is a valid complaint imo since the death ended up bieng just a positive), not the freezing of the body like the other dude said. Not being able to keep the body safe would've been bullshit when they already had the restoration magic.

Hard disagree on her determination being nullified. One thing would've been if she already knew Tio got soul magic, but she didn't, Kaori still kept fighting with a sword inside piercing her heart and nothing can take that away from her.

Yes that about it. We already know that Hajime has a ton of scrolls and materials from the previous labyrinth so why not just do a "montage" of Kaori powering up to Tia or Shi level would be completely fine. Even just a trial with her life on the line would be ok.
For the determination it's more on a meta standpoint, while she died for her cause, she gets an upgrade but at the price of her original body (and so do the readers think), but then we get the "copt out" of still having her original body still available, which, to me render the "choice" of leaving her body for another, well void.
The characters didn't know that, but the author did (hence meta). He should've made the situation different. Like a curse or whatnot.

 

[bk3k]

If she keeps the healing abilities it's worst tbh.

It's a copt out because now that they can just keep Kaori previous body, there's no consequences for her (even her "determination" is now nullified). She literally just get to jump into another powered up body, then can switch back to her previous one when it'll be time to go back to Japan or if she gets killed.

Keep in mind that they managed to only save Kaori, and not anyone else. If he was a little later, there would be no saving Kaori either. And it wouldn't be something to pull off in the middle of battle either. If you think they're truly unstoppable like that, you're wrong, especially considering what they're up against.

Spoiler: And also,

they aren't the only ones who can take someone else's body. It's gonna be used against their group, but I won't say more than that.

 

[Seraphus]

Who amoung us wouldn't take the chance to upgrade our physical manifestation upon this earth?

Especially if we had big tiddies access to powerful magic, big tiddies great physical strength, BIG TIDDIES huge fighting prowess, and TIG OL' BIDDIES the ability to increase our survivability?

And, also, huge jugs.

 

[SifTheFair]

Keep in mind that they managed to only save Kaori, and not anyone else. If he was a little later, there would be no saving Kaori either. And it wouldn't be something to pull off in the middle of battle either. If you think they're truly unstoppable like that, you're wrong, especially considering what they're up against.
[SPOILER cut]

I would nitpick that Hajime only saves Kaori because it's the only one he cares about. Unless stated otherwise he could have rez the others, but then maybe the necromantic curse could prevent it if the author needed any justification other than "too late"/"don't care".
I have no idea of the powerscaling in this story. All I can presume is that Hajime & co are the strongest "mortals".
The only issue I have is that there was a lot of ways other than body swap for Kaori to power up that would open for drama/character arc progression.

Spoiler: about spoiler

We'll see when your SPOILER come to pass, it'll probably change my stance on this event depending on the result.

 

[Zhangar]

The only thing that bothers me about the body swap is that she kept the angel's outfit.

Unless the angel's gear was some amazing unique item (or it's literally part of the body), you'd think a girl would rather be wearing her own clothes.