Ascendance of a Bookworm Official Comic Anthology - Vol. 3 Ch. 54 - A Secret - Tamaki Nozomu

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Oh it's Tamaki Nozomu art style, you can really tell with how he draws his characters faces. :meguu:
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Not sure if I want this to be canon or not

Considering what's known in canon this scenario is pretty much near impossible to be real.
Considering he was born out of basically rape/'prostitution' AND was expect to be killed for magic stone at later age.

It took divine intervention for him to survive.
 
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Considering what's known in canon this scenario is pretty much near impossible to be real.
Considering he was born out of basically rape/'prostitution' AND was expect to be killed for magic stone at later age.

It took divine intervention for him to survive.
we don't actually know much about his mother. maybe she loved him despite the circumstances he has born to and his ultimate fate. There are certainly mothers IRL who love children born of rape or who are born with a terminal disease that guarantees a short life. I'm certainly seeing a bit of a conflicted look on her face in that scene. Also, at the very least, i believe noble mothers need to give mana to their newborn children so she might've needed to hold him either way
 
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we don't actually know much about his mother. maybe she loved him despite the circumstances he has born to and his ultimate fate. There are certainly mothers IRL who love children born of rape or who are born with a terminal disease that guarantees a short life. I'm certainly seeing a bit of a conflicted look on her face in that scene. Also, at the very least, i believe noble mothers need to give mana to their newborn children so she might've needed to hold him either way

We don't see her face, that conflicted look you see here is Ferdinand's.

Even if she did held him, there's also the question of whether she would actually know the same lullaby as the one Myne hummed (it should be the same since Myne brought up Ferdinand was humming 'the song' and she was the one who identify it as a lullaby) considering she's a princess from outside + will be kept in isolation.
 
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We don't see her face, that conflicted look you see here is Ferdinand's.

Even if she did held him, there's also the question of whether she would actually know the same lullaby as the one Myne hummed (it should be the same since Myne brought up Ferdinand was humming 'the song' and she was the one who identify it as a lullaby) considering she's a princess from outside + will be kept in isolation.
my bad. hair part looked different and ferdinand is drawn very fem in this style so i thought it was her. as for the isolation, that's not totally true. Raublut was the foreign king's knight and did seem to interact with the girls at least a bit. I'm assuming there were some noble attendants too since there's a limit to what they allow commoners to do. one of them could've suggested a lullaby she knew...though that might also mean that the woman singing was just an attendant lol
 
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my bad. hair part looked different and ferdinand is drawn very fem in this style so i thought it was her. as for the isolation, that's not totally true. Raublut was the foreign king's knight and did seem to interact with the girls at least a bit. I'm assuming there were some noble attendants too since there's a limit to what they allow commoners to do. one of them could've suggested a lullaby she knew...though that might also mean that the woman singing was just an attendant lol

That's just nitpicking on the isolation part.
The security details would be done by the royals, hence why Raublaut was there.
And obviously the various Aubs would visit to use them.

But the villa itself is isolated from outside world, which is my point.
And again these are children made to be harvested for magic stone (since the one for continuing the bloodline was already sent out) there's little practical reason to 'care' for them beyond the minimum.
 
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my bad. hair part looked different and ferdinand is drawn very fem in this style so i thought it was her. as for the isolation, that's not totally true. Raublut was the foreign king's knight and did seem to interact with the girls at least a bit. I'm assuming there were some noble attendants too since there's a limit to what they allow commoners to do. one of them could've suggested a lullaby she knew...though that might also mean that the woman singing was just an attendant lol
That's just nitpicking on the isolation part.
The security details would be done by the royals, hence why Raublaut was there.
And obviously the various Aubs would visit to use them.

But the villa itself is isolated from outside world, which is my point.
And again these are children made to be harvested for magic stone (since the one for continuing the bloodline was already sent out) there's little practical reason to 'care' for them beyond the minimum.
Been a while, but I think I remember something about a lullaby in the novel version, so this isn't far fetched. My immediate thought was that it was a symbol of how a lullaby is shared between social classes, for this chapter.

Damn, I'm tired. Think I just said the sky is blue.

Also, I wanted to join the spoiler conversation. Go Peer Pressure!
 
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Considering what's known in canon this scenario is pretty much near impossible to be real.
Considering he was born out of basically rape/'prostitution' AND was expect to be killed for magic stone at later age.

It took divine intervention for him to survive.

The mother wasn't raped or a prostitute. She was nobility and well her faction had a culture that only the strongest survive and the ones that meet the mark will be destined to be turned into magic stones. We know that Ferdinand was slated to be turned to a magic stone since he wasn't strong enough magically. So it's possible that his mother loved him and didn't want him to be come a magic stone so she conspired with Aub Ehrenfest to get him adopted to save him. It was never stated what ever became of her but I feel she may have gotten turned into a magic stone in his place.
 
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The mother wasn't raped or a prostitute. She was nobility and well her faction had a system that only the strongest survive and the ones that meet the mark will be destined to be turned into magic stones. We know that Ferdinand was slated to be turned to a magic stone since he wasn't strong enough magically. So it's possible that his mother loved him and didn't want him to be come a magic stone so she conspired with Aub Ehrenfest to get him adopted to save him.

She is sent to a foreign land to be locked up in a villa and be sexual partner for any man who can visit her...yeah, sure, whatever you say.

Even if Ferdinand was any stronger it wouldn't matter, they already sent out the one for continuing outside royal family, the rest are to be turned into rocks.

And his adoption was done via divine intervention...literally.

The goddess of fate was crying because the history weave has a tear in it, specifically someone/something messed with Ferdinand's fate and since he's so pivotal to the current path of history the damage was extensive.
So the goddess of time, wanting to console her, literally descended and called for Myne so they can send her back into the past to fix history.
 
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That's just nitpicking on the isolation part.
The security details would be done by the royals, hence why Raublaut was there.
And obviously the various Aubs would visit to use them.

But the villa itself is isolated from outside world, which is my point.
And again these are children made to be harvested for magic stone (since the one for continuing the bloodline was already sent out) there's little practical reason to 'care' for them beyond the minimum.
i wouldnt say a mothers love can necessarily be considered practical


The mother wasn't raped or a prostitute. She was nobility and well her faction had a culture that only the strongest survive and the ones that meet the mark will be destined to be turned into magic stones. We know that Ferdinand was slated to be turned to a magic stone since he wasn't strong enough magically. So it's possible that his mother loved him and didn't want him to be come a magic stone so she conspired with Aub Ehrenfest to get him adopted to save him. It was never stated what ever became of her but I feel she may have gotten turned into a magic stone in his place.
She is sent to a foreign land to be locked up in a villa and be sexual partner for any man who can visit her...yeah, sure, whatever you say.

Even if Ferdinand was any stronger it wouldn't matter, they already sent out the one for continuing outside royal family, the rest are to be turned into rocks.

And his adoption was done via divine intervention...literally.
It's definitely a f'd up process but so is most of noble society. Women are expected to marry whatever man their parents picks for them (often without meeting them first) and pop out as many kids as possible. It's not even that unusual to kill a child if they aren't adequate. Also, I believe that getting a noble pregnant is a prolonged process that requires dying and time and some of the father's mana to support the child, so the number of men she could have actually been with would be pretty small

Been a while, but I think I remember something about a lullaby in the novel version, so this isn't far fetched. My immediate thought was that it was a symbol of how a lullaby is shared between social classes, for this chapter.

Damn, I'm tired. Think I just said the sky is blue.

Also, I wanted to join the spoiler conversation. Go Peer Pressure!
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i wouldnt say a mothers love can necessarily be considered practical

So it's not necessary? Good to know you agree then.

And might I reminds you he grew up to be the jaded stoic person we see at first BECAUSE he never had a family who cared for him over their noble responsibilities?
He was taken out near baptism age so that's quite a few years he had to spend in the villa.

Even if we go by your idea that she did love/care for him, it'd implies she emotionally detached herself at some point, which doesn't make sense if she knew he'd be for harvesting from the start.

I think it's even more fucked up for someone to love/care for a child then just...stop later.

Women are expected to marry whatever man their parents picks for them (often without meeting them first) and pop out as many kids as possible

This one is just straight up wrong, like what derp logic are you on to somehow conflate engagement and marriage?

Literally in canon:
Myne was ENGAGED to Wilfried since her adoption, then technically the prince, then Ferdinand. And officially she has yet to marry (unofficially the gods starbound her and Ferdi for divine intervention)

Angelica was engaged to Eckhart, broke it when he went to Ahrensbach, then did it again in Alexandria, but those two are so damn monke they're unlikely to actually have a baby for a while yet.
Lieseleta met and did mana affinity testing with her partner first before the parents even consider taking the engagement talk further. Then that got dropped when she moved to Alexandria.

There's also a few characters who chose their partner. Anastasius/Eglantine, Sylvester/Florencia, Hartmut/Clarissa, etc chose their partners and convince their parents to accept it.
Heck in case of Hannelore she was given parent-approved options but the parents also WANT her to choose her own partner if possible.

So no, no women got married without meeting the person their parent picked first.
EDIT: There's also winter playroom, the whole 6 years of academy, etc. That the girl will likely at least have met/interact with prospective partner in that time.
 
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So it's not necessary? Good to know you agree then.

And might I reminds you he grew up to be the jaded stoic person we see at first BECAUSE he never had a family who cared for him over their noble responsibilities?
He was taken out near baptism age so that's quite a few years he had to spend in the villa.

Even if we go by your idea that she did love/care for him, it'd implies she emotionally detached herself at some point, which doesn't make sense if she knew he'd be for harvesting from the start.

I think it's even more fucked up for someone to love/care for a child then just...stop later.



This one is just straight up wrong, like what derp logic are you on to somehow conflate engagement and marriage?

Literally in canon:
Myne was ENGAGED to Wilfried since her adoption, then technically the prince, then Ferdinand. And officially she has yet to marry (unofficially the gods starbound her and Ferdi for divine intervention)

Angelica was engaged to Eckhart, broke it when he went to Ahrensbach, then did it again in Alexandria, but those two are so damn monke they're unlikely to actually have a baby for a while yet.
Lieseleta met and did mana affinity testing with her partner first before the parents even consider taking the engagement talk further. Then that got dropped when she moved to Alexandria.

There's also a few characters who chose their partner. Anastasius/Eglantine, Sylvester/Florencia, Hartmut/Clarissa, etc chose their partners and convince their parents to accept it.
Heck in case of Hannelore she was given parent-approved options but the parents also WANT her to choose her own partner if possible.

So no, no women got married without meeting the person their parent picked first.
EDIT: There's also winter playroom, the whole 6 years of academy, etc. That the girl will likely at least have met/interact with prospective partner in that time.
leiseletta only met her partner first because her mana had grown so much that they didn’t know if it’d match. And even then, despite her being incredibly uninterested in the man, she had no right to refuse the engagement set up by her parents.
 
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leiseletta only met her partner first because her mana had grown so much that they didn’t know if it’d match. And even then, despite her being incredibly uninterested in the man, she had no right to refuse the engagement set up by her parents.

And that, if anything, still support what I said:
So no, no women got married without meeting the person their parent picked first.

Note that last bit? About the person their parents picked?
I did not disagree that the parents can choose the partner, I disagreed with the marrying without meeting them first part since that contradict just about every single canon example.

Am I nitpicking? Probably, but since you nitpicked on my 'isolated' part earlier I think it's only fair I can do the same back.
 

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