Banning the upload of infant abuse

[nathan67003]

I browse latest update every day with 0 filters. This has allowed me to notice that over the last few days, at least a dozen manga where the subject matter is literally just raping infants and toddlers have been uploaded.

I'm aware stuff like lolicons or whatever aren't frowned upon here but there's a fucking margin between believably-young-looking adult and 2 year old getting fucked by an adult.

 

[shwiftyshfifty]

I hope, that when the blacklist finally comes online, toddlerfuckery will be blocked as a sensible default.

I bet that 99% of managex users and 99.9% non basement living humans disapprove of that genre.

ACKSHUALLY it's more like 99.7% iirc. The amount of a given population that could be described as paedophiles is ~0.3%. Then there's an even smaller percentage of that population that are also psychopathic (co-morbid) that allows them to ----- which is I think 1% of that 0.3% population. It's been a few years since I took that psych class, but that's the gist.

ALSO, banning fictional representations (drawn or otherwise) of CSAM is regressive such that paedophilic individuals without co-morbid psychopathy will have no way to satiate their urges and bad things could happen. These representations also help those with co-morbidity satiate their urges, but not as much.

Again, it's been few years I've taken psych classes so some of this might not be exactly true, but I still somewhat remember the two lectures given about this stuff. Though you can quote me on this.

So yeah, the best solution is a blocklist. This material is certainly offensive to the vast majority of users but outright banning it could result in actual harm to actual people. It is unfortunate, but paedophilia/infantophilia are sexual orientations like being gay or straight. It simply isn't a choice for them, they're born that way.

 

[Yuri_lover0-0]

i mean it’s never gonna happen sadly but I wish loli never existed cause it just supports pedos

 

[Yuri_lover0-0]

ACKSHUALLY it's more like 99.7% iirc. The amount of a given population that could be described as paedophiles is ~0.3%. Then there's an even smaller percentage of that population that are also psychopathic (co-morbid) that allows them to ----- which is I think 1% of that 0.3% population. It's been a few years since I took that psych class, but that's the gist.

ALSO, banning fictional representations (drawn or otherwise) of CSAM is regressive such that paedophilic individuals without co-morbid psychopathy will have no way to satiate their urges and bad things could happen. These representations also help those with co-morbidity satiate their urges, but not as much.

Again, it's been few years I've taken psych classes so some of this might not be exactly true, but I still somewhat remember the two lectures given about this stuff. Though you can quote me on this.

So yeah, the best solution is a blocklist. This material is certainly offensive to the vast majority of users but outright banning it could result in actual harm to actual people. It is unfortunate, but paedophilia/infantophilia are sexual orientations like being gay or straight. It simply isn't a choice for them, they're born that way.

As a gay person pls don’t compare me to peados they have a choice to ignore their urges and they follow them also having this stuff out their could introduce this idea to people who never thought about it before idk tho i dropped psych T-T

 

[vmman]

YOU LEAVE THE MILFS ALONE. For some of us, they're actually our potential dating pool.

agree (I love milf)

 

[Manko-sensei]

I didn't think it was possible creating a virtual gate to Reddit and Twitter in this forum, but this post proved otherwise. Since the fundamentalist gathering keeps growing, let me remind you that both real porn and sex industry are the ones that fuel rape culture, it doesn't matter how legal they may be in your country. Be as hypocrite as you want but keep it to yourselves.

 

[te-kun]

I think this should be posted here. https://journal.neilgaiman.com/2008/12/why-defend-freedom-of-icky-speech.html?m=1

 

[te-kun]

Well women wear dildos in trench coats in public so.....

++ I saw a woman with huge boobs and nipple piercings in public too.

Don’t let that stop you, men can use dildos too! Sure there is one hole less but with practice and determination you can fit as many or even more dildos than those women! Show those women how it is done! 🍆

 

[lsbkf]

https://forums.mangadex.org/threads/skirts-and-parasites.1993089/#post-23801484


I posted this the other day without searching in the global forum for topics about porn, and honestly I think any kind of porn that can get mangadex banned on a large scale should be removed. I agree with

ALSO, banning fictional representations (drawn or otherwise) of CSAM is regressive such that paedophilic individuals without co-morbid psychopathy will have no way to satiate their urges and bad things could happen. These representations also help those with co-morbidity satiate their urges, but not as much.

but they already have enough material somewhere else that we don't need to cater to them at the risk of getting every manga inaccessible here.

 

[RogueKitsune]

I think any kind of porn that can get mangadex banned on a large scale should be removed.

You do know that there are a lot of places that porn is outright banned? So allowing any kind of porn or even suggestive content would no longer be allowed if this was followed.

Also there is the issue of the whole piracy thing that would be a way bigger issue than some fictional cunny.

 

[lsbkf]

Well choose you poison then, you can host either piracy or smooth pussy, but if you're doing both then you become too high profile and easy to target.
We don't need porn on mangadex. If I want porn manga, I go to sadpanda. It's a liability here, there is no argument to keep it.

 

[Manko-sensei]

It's funny how people make demands when they never contributed in any way to a website and think part of the contents that staff members have uploaded shouldn't be here. I guess freedom is a really scary thing.

 

[monkey123]

Meh. More importantly MD should add filters to filter out garbage like yaoi and futa!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[lsbkf]

It's funny how people make demands when they never contributed in any way to a website and think part of the contents that staff members have uploaded shouldn't be here. I guess freedom is a really scary thing.

It's funny how concerns become demands, and talking about it is apparently not a contribution. I guess we don't have the freedom to speak out.

 

[Trobilobada]

You guys seriously browse porn in public?

Imagine the consequences of a complete stranger seeing tits on your phone.

 

[Manko-sensei]

It's funny how concerns become demands, and talking about it is apparently not a contribution. I guess we don't have the freedom to speak out.

Sure sure, censorship is the greatest expression of freedom, so dictatorships are the ideal government. That's why arts and cultures are the first things to be banned, it's dangerous when you think about things that don't belong to the status quo. Nothing better than becoming a satelite of those who ban according their agenda, because voicing intolerance is important.
Yep, your demand for censorship is not a contribution, as destroying a store is not helping the owner to get rid of their products.

 

[WindOcean]

Imagine the consequences of a complete stranger seeing tits on your phone.

Imagine living in one of the countries where fictional csam is a crime...

 

[WindOcean]

We don't need porn on mangadex.

YES, WE DO

 

[WindOcean]

It's a liability here, there is no argument to keep it.

Let's keep it real, if porn really becomes a liability in some countries for mangadex, I assume it'd be quite easy to just not give the users of said country the option to view porn.

PS: And of course don't host servers in such countries.

 

[lsbkf]

Sure sure, censorship is the greatest expression of freedom, so dictatorships are the ideal government. That's why arts and cultures are the first things to be banned, it's dangerous when you think about things that don't belong to the status quo. Nothing better than becoming a satelite of those who ban according their agenda, because voicing intolerance is important.
Yep, your demand for censorship is not a contribution, as destroying a store is not helping the owner to get rid of their products.

So much yap because your lazy ass can't handle going to the bazillion fap websites that are out there. Oh no, my freedom is being stolen away because I can't see titties in every corner of my browser. Such a tragedy. The expression of my art tastes is critically endangered.
I'm not coercing anyone to censor stuff. I'm not the one who's going to call people in power to drag you to the ground. I'M JUST SAYING, based on how the internet and real life works, that mangadex staff is taking additional risks that compound with those they have already taken. It doesn't matter if it's hosting child porn or streaming the star wars trilogy, I'M JUST SAYING you're going to have more big boys than before on your ass. Got it ?

 

[WindOcean]

[...] my freedom is being stolen away because I can't see titties in every corner of my browser. [...] The expression of my art tastes is [...] endangered.

fr fr, that'd be terrible