Beatrice - Vol. 1 Ch. 25
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absolutely not! he is not a good person! That's the Stockholm Syndrome talking!
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sure he murdered my family, was about to murder me but decided to enslave me instead, is best buds with a roaming rapist and has threatened to murder you several times since you were made a slave but no he's totally a good guy.
seriously wtf is wrong with the author to make them think this is ok and romantic? this makes 50 shades of grey style relationships look healthy
seriously wtf is wrong with the author to make them think this is ok and romantic? this makes 50 shades of grey style relationships look healthy
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I too hate the blonde chick who only crime is she likes the ML
But I love the ML even though hes a mass-murdering psychopath friends with ted Bundy and a pro-slavery asshole. At lesat hes hot
But I love the ML even though hes a mass-murdering psychopath friends with ted Bundy and a pro-slavery asshole. At lesat hes hot
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What I got from this chapter..
Clara is a masochist
Beatrice has Stockholm syndrome
Clara is a masochist
Beatrice has Stockholm syndrome
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Sure he murdered my family - Its war. Also she doesnt like that family.
was about to murder me but ended up enslaving me- Its war..
Best buds with a roaming rapist - She doesn't know that.
Has threatened to murder you several times since you were a slave - No shit. She was a slave. Dying for making mistakes especially for the few times she was threatened death with actually makes more sense.
Am I saying he is a good person? Absolutely not. On the other hand, I don't expect characters to have the reader's special ability to read a character's internal monologue. The only thing she knows is despite his cold terrifying demeanor, others only had good things to say about him and that the guy has enough empathy to give her something to drink from. Thus, a 'good person'.
The blonde girl on the other hand, is the one with unhealthy relationship.
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And yes, I definitely think the ML has Stockholm Syndrome. Seriously. Stop ogling his body. You would only look creepy.
Sure he murdered my family - Its war. Also she doesnt like that family.
was about to murder me but ended up enslaving me- Its war..
Best buds with a roaming rapist - She doesn't know that.
Has threatened to murder you several times since you were a slave - No shit. She was a slave. Dying for making mistakes especially for the few times she was threatened death with actually makes more sense.
Am I saying he is a good person? Absolutely not. On the other hand, I don't expect characters to have the reader's special ability to read a character's internal monologue. The only thing she knows is despite his cold terrifying demeanor, others only had good things to say about him and that the guy has enough empathy to give her something to drink from. Thus, a 'good person'.
The blonde girl on the other hand, is the one with unhealthy relationship.
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And yes, I definitely think the ML has Stockholm Syndrome. Seriously. Stop ogling his body. You would only look creepy.
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Stockholm syndrome and a masochist, this ladies have some screws missing, I tell ya.
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@nep shes from modern times yet she acts like this i completely normal... sh should be running in the other direction but apparently doormatrice was dropped on the head as a kid or is into slavery. This girls not normal. Her definition of a good person is fucked up. Thus Stockholm syndrome
The relationship will never be healthy. She will never ever be his equal . I don't really think realistically she can ever love him no matter what bs the author pulls. Shes a slave and he's the crown prince
You cant even say he's a well-written character because he's not. He's constantly stewing in his own hypocrisy and self-contradicting himself'
And stop with all this protagonist favoritism. The blondie is the most healthy option for the dude. Shes a mahcoist and a Nobel. So she would hold some power in the relationship compared to doormatrice who will forever be subjected to his whims as she has no real status. And honestly I Iike her character better. Much more intreting then this uncle tom weve gotten
The relationship will never be healthy. She will never ever be his equal . I don't really think realistically she can ever love him no matter what bs the author pulls. Shes a slave and he's the crown prince
You cant even say he's a well-written character because he's not. He's constantly stewing in his own hypocrisy and self-contradicting himself'
And stop with all this protagonist favoritism. The blondie is the most healthy option for the dude. Shes a mahcoist and a Nobel. So she would hold some power in the relationship compared to doormatrice who will forever be subjected to his whims as she has no real status. And honestly I Iike her character better. Much more intreting then this uncle tom weve gotten
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@theilikepie I have to start quoting myself more often.
I was simply pointing out various reasons why she can think he is a "good person".
First of all, she did "run away in the other direction" by pretending to be asleep when treating the horse. Second, "good person" can mean many things. In this case, "not a frightening individual" because he doesn't completely ignore her needs.
I never said their relationship would be healthy. Nor did I ever say he was a well-written character. I even made a rant about how he is a BADLY written character in the previous chapter where he spanked the blonde.
No. He is a good option for blondie but the blondie is definitely not the most healthy option[ b]for him[/b] since he doesn't give a shit about nobility and is supposed to be 'terrified' of 'women'. The healthiest option for him is to remain single or just quit the whole noble gig entirely. Both of them should be forever single.
Also I don't know what favoritism you are talking about. I am simply pointing out a character's legitimately believable thoughts from their perspective. For example, not factoring the fact that the man is "best buds with a rapist" because the character doesn't know that or that "murdering her family" is not that big of an 'issue' because its war and she hates that family anyway.
If you ask me whether I want these two to hook up, the answer would be 'hell no'. But that is ultimately a separate matter entirely. The point Im trying to make here is that its not entirely out of character for the slave to think he is a "good person"
Actually if we want to complain about why this two are a "romantic pairing", we should take a step back and complain about why this male lead is even the male lead.
I was simply pointing out various reasons why she can think he is a "good person".
First of all, she did "run away in the other direction" by pretending to be asleep when treating the horse. Second, "good person" can mean many things. In this case, "not a frightening individual" because he doesn't completely ignore her needs.
I never said their relationship would be healthy. Nor did I ever say he was a well-written character. I even made a rant about how he is a BADLY written character in the previous chapter where he spanked the blonde.
No. He is a good option for blondie but the blondie is definitely not the most healthy option[ b]for him[/b] since he doesn't give a shit about nobility and is supposed to be 'terrified' of 'women'. The healthiest option for him is to remain single or just quit the whole noble gig entirely. Both of them should be forever single.
Also I don't know what favoritism you are talking about. I am simply pointing out a character's legitimately believable thoughts from their perspective. For example, not factoring the fact that the man is "best buds with a rapist" because the character doesn't know that or that "murdering her family" is not that big of an 'issue' because its war and she hates that family anyway.
If you ask me whether I want these two to hook up, the answer would be 'hell no'. But that is ultimately a separate matter entirely. The point Im trying to make here is that its not entirely out of character for the slave to think he is a "good person"
Actually if we want to complain about why this two are a "romantic pairing", we should take a step back and complain about why this male lead is even the male lead.
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doesn't matter if she liked them or not he murdered her entire family and was about to murder her as well but decided to enslave her.
so what if it's war? that might excuse him to all other people who were standing on the sideline because they aren't personally affected by it but she is the victim here, she was there and had all these bad things happen to her.
didn't know about the rapist? she was almost raped by him, she 100% knows the duke is good friends with this rapist.
again it doesn't matter her position or the excuse the matter of fact is that he has threatened to murder her several times, it might matter if she's a slave or not to onlookers but shes the victim in the middle of this, she is the one being threatened with death so she should obviously think he's an evil tyrannical monster.
honestly blondie's relationship life is a lot healthier than MC's. at least this girl has been in love with the duke for years and has had this love grow over time and she has actually seen him from a positive angle unlike MC who has only ever seen the duke as an evil sadistic person. it makes sense for blondie to be in love with him it on the other hand makes absolutely no sense for MC to be in love with him.
doesn't matter if she liked them or not he murdered her entire family and was about to murder her as well but decided to enslave her.
so what if it's war? that might excuse him to all other people who were standing on the sideline because they aren't personally affected by it but she is the victim here, she was there and had all these bad things happen to her.
didn't know about the rapist? she was almost raped by him, she 100% knows the duke is good friends with this rapist.
again it doesn't matter her position or the excuse the matter of fact is that he has threatened to murder her several times, it might matter if she's a slave or not to onlookers but shes the victim in the middle of this, she is the one being threatened with death so she should obviously think he's an evil tyrannical monster.
honestly blondie's relationship life is a lot healthier than MC's. at least this girl has been in love with the duke for years and has had this love grow over time and she has actually seen him from a positive angle unlike MC who has only ever seen the duke as an evil sadistic person. it makes sense for blondie to be in love with him it on the other hand makes absolutely no sense for MC to be in love with him.
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"keepin' it decent" LOL
Clara, you got some funny tastes there.
Clara, you got some funny tastes there.
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I can see her thinking maybe he's not a total madman, but I have a hard time accepting her saying he's not a bad guy. He's only started being more decent to her on this campaign and even then it's not to an abundant amount. This girl's bar for what constitutes a good person seems quite low considering her own personal encounters with him. Even if she down plays it by reasoning that he's working for his country's interests and performing his duty, that I think would only get things to the point where she doesn't see him as evil, not that he's a good guy.
I just felt like face-palming with how quickly the author threw that out. At least give us a scene where he saves her life at risk to his own, or you see him doing acts of charity or something to at least attempt to justify such a massive change in perception.
I just felt like face-palming with how quickly the author threw that out. At least give us a scene where he saves her life at risk to his own, or you see him doing acts of charity or something to at least attempt to justify such a massive change in perception.
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Hahaha I knew he'd think that about her when she tried to taste the herb.
My two cents on the "he might've been a good person all along".
I think she has every right at this point in the story to stake that claim. Do I think it belittles everything that she's gone through? No. So do I think this is a good point for her to fall for him? Hell no. Please give us a more substantial demonstration of his kindness and just personality. I can see though why she would say that. She's come to live another new life and this life has opened her world up to even more new things. I think she's seeing her situation in a different light than before leading her to say what she said (I say this because she says it after gazing out into the field).
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I don't think she should oggle at his nakedness. That was strange to me when it happened. Not all good looking men are good looking regardless of what they've done. He was a killer in her eyes at that time so she shouldn't have thought of him as handsome unless she's a psycho herself. I always find a lot of shoujos/manhwas have this strange perception of 'love'.
But the last line of this chapter, I'm hoping is not about love but simply a change in viewpoints and showing growth in Beatrice's mindset. I'm really hoping for character growth not anything relationship related. Reaallly hoping here.🙃 It is a manhwa though sooooo
My two cents on the "he might've been a good person all along".
I think she has every right at this point in the story to stake that claim. Do I think it belittles everything that she's gone through? No. So do I think this is a good point for her to fall for him? Hell no. Please give us a more substantial demonstration of his kindness and just personality. I can see though why she would say that. She's come to live another new life and this life has opened her world up to even more new things. I think she's seeing her situation in a different light than before leading her to say what she said (I say this because she says it after gazing out into the field).
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I don't think she should oggle at his nakedness. That was strange to me when it happened. Not all good looking men are good looking regardless of what they've done. He was a killer in her eyes at that time so she shouldn't have thought of him as handsome unless she's a psycho herself. I always find a lot of shoujos/manhwas have this strange perception of 'love'.
But the last line of this chapter, I'm hoping is not about love but simply a change in viewpoints and showing growth in Beatrice's mindset. I'm really hoping for character growth not anything relationship related. Reaallly hoping here.🙃 It is a manhwa though sooooo
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