Blue Hearts - Ch. 49 - A Song From the Heart
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Short arc but it seems to be pretty much done, maybe one more chapter left for him
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Fortunately toki's parents aren't the strict one
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how sweet, so happy for ichijou 😭😭
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This was a really lovely chapter to read. Thank you for translating it
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Two things. First, I do still want to point out that the parents were not bad. They're not the "greatest", but they were by no means unreasonable. They asked Toki at multiple times what he wanted, and he always SEEMED fine with it. No duh they didn't know about the hobby that Toki had considering how hard Toki hid it from them.
Second, it's important to do what you want to do...unless what you want to do is making other people happy by acting a certain way. I really hate that. It literally gives zero shits to how he did this after at least some thought. It's not like he said one day herp derp, I'll just be a good student to please my parents. He literally thought about it a lot and thought that being a good student and not showing his singing to his parents was a good thing. Zero fucks given to that. Don't give two shits about that. That's the moral of the story. That's not what you want to do.
Second, it's important to do what you want to do...unless what you want to do is making other people happy by acting a certain way. I really hate that. It literally gives zero shits to how he did this after at least some thought. It's not like he said one day herp derp, I'll just be a good student to please my parents. He literally thought about it a lot and thought that being a good student and not showing his singing to his parents was a good thing. Zero fucks given to that. Don't give two shits about that. That's the moral of the story. That's not what you want to do.
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I honestly don't know what you're trying to say here. Are you blaming everything on Toki?
I honestly don't know what you're trying to say here. Are you blaming everything on Toki?
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@PeterAn4798 Literally none of what I wrote in this chapter's comments blames Toki for anything. I wrote 1) don't blame the parents (too harshly) and 2) this chapter's message of "do what you want to do" is bullshit for specific reasons. None of that blames Toki.
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Ok, sorry, it's been a long week so I just didn't understand your points. Anyhow, IIRC, we've only seen the 2 small flashback here so far, and base on those, I woudn't say "They asked Toki at multiple times what he wanted", not with the words they used.
I don't know if this something only Asians can relate or not, but I understand Toki's feeling back then, seeing how your parents are so happy with your scores, seeing how much expectation they have in you, you just can't say no when they asked you "You like studying, right?" Consider that the parents are highly educated, there would be a much higher pressure for Toki to live up to their and the society's expectation. I've been there before, and I almost kill myself once because of that. So even though they didn't intend to push him like that, they still hugely failed to support their kids.
Also, for the message, hiding his feeling is not what he wanted to do, it's what he chose to do because the above reasons. If that was what he wanted. he wouldn't be there singing alter all.
Ok, sorry, it's been a long week so I just didn't understand your points. Anyhow, IIRC, we've only seen the 2 small flashback here so far, and base on those, I woudn't say "They asked Toki at multiple times what he wanted", not with the words they used.
I don't know if this something only Asians can relate or not, but I understand Toki's feeling back then, seeing how your parents are so happy with your scores, seeing how much expectation they have in you, you just can't say no when they asked you "You like studying, right?" Consider that the parents are highly educated, there would be a much higher pressure for Toki to live up to their and the society's expectation. I've been there before, and I almost kill myself once because of that. So even though they didn't intend to push him like that, they still hugely failed to support their kids.
Also, for the message, hiding his feeling is not what he wanted to do, it's what he chose to do because the above reasons. If that was what he wanted. he wouldn't be there singing alter all.
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@PeterAn4798 You're missing at least some of the context AND you're being judgmental. You said it yourself. We've only seen the 2 small flashback here so far. And yet that's enough for you to judge them so harshly?
Let's look at what we know for absolute certain. Towa seems to be healthy and well-adjusted with herself. When Toki came home, his parents asked him if he had dinner yet. In these flashbacks, we see them praising their son for his academic achievements and asking him if he wants to do more academic work.
I do agree with you that we have not seen very much, and yet you don't want to give them the benefit of the doubt because...why? Because you want to judge them without knowing anything? No, it's because you want to judge them DESPITE knowing that they seem generally good.
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On the message, he wanted to please his parents. He wanted to do that by not telling them about his interest in singing. That is what he wanted! He literally said these words out loud! Do you realize that you're doing exactly the thing that I said is bad? You're saying you will ignore everything that he says. You're saying you know what he really wants and that you get to decide what he really wants, not what he says.
That's my point. It is COMPLETELY possible that he wants to please his parents by doing these things. The evidence is that he literally says this out loud to other people and actually acts upon that. And yet, apparently none of that matters?
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Lastly, I hesitate to say this because it's not actually a good argument, but I grew up in an "Asian" household. By the way, I HATE how that usually just means a specific idea of Asians, as though the largest and most populous continent is full of people all so similar. Anyways, I grew up in an "Asian" household with high standards of academic achievement. I still am able to say what I wrote above after having lived through that.
Let's look at what we know for absolute certain. Towa seems to be healthy and well-adjusted with herself. When Toki came home, his parents asked him if he had dinner yet. In these flashbacks, we see them praising their son for his academic achievements and asking him if he wants to do more academic work.
I do agree with you that we have not seen very much, and yet you don't want to give them the benefit of the doubt because...why? Because you want to judge them without knowing anything? No, it's because you want to judge them DESPITE knowing that they seem generally good.
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On the message, he wanted to please his parents. He wanted to do that by not telling them about his interest in singing. That is what he wanted! He literally said these words out loud! Do you realize that you're doing exactly the thing that I said is bad? You're saying you will ignore everything that he says. You're saying you know what he really wants and that you get to decide what he really wants, not what he says.
That's my point. It is COMPLETELY possible that he wants to please his parents by doing these things. The evidence is that he literally says this out loud to other people and actually acts upon that. And yet, apparently none of that matters?
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Lastly, I hesitate to say this because it's not actually a good argument, but I grew up in an "Asian" household. By the way, I HATE how that usually just means a specific idea of Asians, as though the largest and most populous continent is full of people all so similar. Anyways, I grew up in an "Asian" household with high standards of academic achievement. I still am able to say what I wrote above after having lived through that.
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So basically he was too wimpy to tell them he had a passion or even let them know he has a hobby he's interested in.
They didn't force him to study, deny him anything, mistreat him... probably busy while working, but they always seemed to praise him and be happy with his achievements.
That's nowhere near as bad as a friend killing herself, or being gang raped like others in group had experienced. Man, his "arc" was pretty much the worst.
They didn't force him to study, deny him anything, mistreat him... probably busy while working, but they always seemed to praise him and be happy with his achievements.
That's nowhere near as bad as a friend killing herself, or being gang raped like others in group had experienced. Man, his "arc" was pretty much the worst.
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Oh, so you and I live in so much different worlds.
Now look, there's the reason why the author only gave us these 2 flashbacks with these specific words , they sums up pretty much everything about Toki's realationship with his parents, and of course, it'd be nice of we see more of it, but that's still enough for me to understand how everything lead to this. Yes, the parents aren't bad people, they just did the samething like some others without realizing they were pushing too hard on Toki.
And yeah, Toki wanted to please his parents, like most of us. But what I was saying is that he chose, not wanted, to hide what he loves. What he wanted is doing what he loves without worrying about other issues as he had been expressing that this entire arc, from blaming everything on Towa, to being jealous of Nagi, and he even wrote the lyrics expressing his entire feelings of wanting to be himself. So I still say the message isn't that bullshit.
And for the Asians part, I'm sorry, it's just that I've seen people not agreeing on something without realizing we have different cultures.
Oh, so you and I live in so much different worlds.
Now look, there's the reason why the author only gave us these 2 flashbacks with these specific words , they sums up pretty much everything about Toki's realationship with his parents, and of course, it'd be nice of we see more of it, but that's still enough for me to understand how everything lead to this. Yes, the parents aren't bad people, they just did the samething like some others without realizing they were pushing too hard on Toki.
And yeah, Toki wanted to please his parents, like most of us. But what I was saying is that he chose, not wanted, to hide what he loves. What he wanted is doing what he loves without worrying about other issues as he had been expressing that this entire arc, from blaming everything on Towa, to being jealous of Nagi, and he even wrote the lyrics expressing his entire feelings of wanting to be himself. So I still say the message isn't that bullshit.
And for the Asians part, I'm sorry, it's just that I've seen people not agreeing on something without realizing we have different cultures.
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@PeterAn4798 It really says something that you are trying to make this artificial distinction between what he chose and what he wanted. Again, you are disregarding everything he has explicitly said out loud and done up until this point. You are the one deciding what he wants. You decided that by ignoring what he actually says.
And that's the problem I pointed out. Somehow, someone else gets to decide what he "really" wants. Ignore anything he says and chooses to do on his own. No, none of that matters. Other people decide what he really wants.
And that's the problem I pointed out. Somehow, someone else gets to decide what he "really" wants. Ignore anything he says and chooses to do on his own. No, none of that matters. Other people decide what he really wants.
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The meaning behind SIMNY is nice but the name still kinda sucks...
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