Blue Lock - Vol. 25 Ch. 218 - Game Changer
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This is one of the most chaotic teams I've ever seen
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can I just say I vibe with the "holy crap" "Inputting so much is fun!" panel on Page 11 really hard. Like, the whole "meta vision" thing IS totally describing something i've experienced / messed with / "attained" (temporarily) (in video games) (with enough practice and also effort to create that kind of broad expansive focus on all the available information in front of me, leading me to realize incisive next moves in a Flow kind of way).
like a lot of times the default behavior (as shown in this manga and as i've seen a lot in games and DONE a lot in games) is just to try to force your own gimmick or preferred strategy, and just hone that approach as far as you can until it just beats out other strategies through sheer Honed Superiority, while what's being called the "meta vision" approach in this manga is more to hone your ability to read the whole situation and in an ultra present-minded way realize what you need to do next in the moment based on a precise grasp of everything (or as much as you can process) that's going on in the moment.
(but of course the more tools/gimmicks you have in your pocket, the more options you have to use, so of course both honed techniques and Meta Vision Mindset are essential for total mastery.)
and managing to win with just Honed Superiority can be "fun" in a kind of ego-soothing way of "yeah, i'm just better", but winning with "meta vision" in my experience is way more thrilling because it's so much more dynamic and active and less "routine" and essentially about constant growth, so it's less of a pat on the back for all your past practice and the legitimacy of your efforts (blah blah ego insecurity stuff), and more of an exhilaration of just being absolutely present, being actually there, actually seeing the game state and actually playing it with absolute lucidity.
so for all the absolute "melodrama" of this manga, i really really like its exploration and depiction of subtle mental concepts/feelings in this kind of fast paced competitive environment
t. Isagi IRL
edit: on page 17, Kaiser's "And believe. For me, nothing is impossible." is a nice example of basically the absolute audacity required to try to pull off "meta vision" in the first place. Believing that it's even possible to process that much information and in-the-moment figure out something that will win the situation. And I say "audacity" more than "ego", cuz I feel like it's actually primary to try to reduce your ego as much as possible so that you're not distracted by "I'm great, I don't even need to be present in the moment to win" OR "I'm not great, I couldn't possibly win even if I focused" or anything. Just focus. Just absolute straightforward "trying to pull it off", not because you're great but because thinking about whether or not you're great is a distraction.
(if you do pull off something crazy then it gets even harder to not get distracted by thinking that you're great, though, which hurts your focus. It's hard!!!!!!!)
like a lot of times the default behavior (as shown in this manga and as i've seen a lot in games and DONE a lot in games) is just to try to force your own gimmick or preferred strategy, and just hone that approach as far as you can until it just beats out other strategies through sheer Honed Superiority, while what's being called the "meta vision" approach in this manga is more to hone your ability to read the whole situation and in an ultra present-minded way realize what you need to do next in the moment based on a precise grasp of everything (or as much as you can process) that's going on in the moment.
(but of course the more tools/gimmicks you have in your pocket, the more options you have to use, so of course both honed techniques and Meta Vision Mindset are essential for total mastery.)
and managing to win with just Honed Superiority can be "fun" in a kind of ego-soothing way of "yeah, i'm just better", but winning with "meta vision" in my experience is way more thrilling because it's so much more dynamic and active and less "routine" and essentially about constant growth, so it's less of a pat on the back for all your past practice and the legitimacy of your efforts (blah blah ego insecurity stuff), and more of an exhilaration of just being absolutely present, being actually there, actually seeing the game state and actually playing it with absolute lucidity.
so for all the absolute "melodrama" of this manga, i really really like its exploration and depiction of subtle mental concepts/feelings in this kind of fast paced competitive environment
t. Isagi IRL
edit: on page 17, Kaiser's "And believe. For me, nothing is impossible." is a nice example of basically the absolute audacity required to try to pull off "meta vision" in the first place. Believing that it's even possible to process that much information and in-the-moment figure out something that will win the situation. And I say "audacity" more than "ego", cuz I feel like it's actually primary to try to reduce your ego as much as possible so that you're not distracted by "I'm great, I don't even need to be present in the moment to win" OR "I'm not great, I couldn't possibly win even if I focused" or anything. Just focus. Just absolute straightforward "trying to pull it off", not because you're great but because thinking about whether or not you're great is a distraction.
(if you do pull off something crazy then it gets even harder to not get distracted by thinking that you're great, though, which hurts your focus. It's hard!!!!!!!)
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Is meta vision cringe? Yes.
Am I enjoying the cringe? Also yes.
Am I enjoying the cringe? Also yes.
1) I think Kunigamis is bound to fail this attack which would lead into Noa getting rid of him and subbing him for Hiori.
2) This would lead to the team realizing Hiori has a much better vision for connecting everyone than Ness that is solely focused on Kaiser and, in turn, Ness would try something stupid which would result in Noa also subbing him, maybe for Kunigami or for another player we havent seen played for Bastards.
3) Finally, I hope Isagi mentioning Raichi means that he will finally have a chance to either show he can keep up with Isagi or show that there are other visions that can keep up with Meta vision and Raichi has it (Metavision Raichi when??)
2) This would lead to the team realizing Hiori has a much better vision for connecting everyone than Ness that is solely focused on Kaiser and, in turn, Ness would try something stupid which would result in Noa also subbing him, maybe for Kunigami or for another player we havent seen played for Bastards.
3) Finally, I hope Isagi mentioning Raichi means that he will finally have a chance to either show he can keep up with Isagi or show that there are other visions that can keep up with Meta vision and Raichi has it (Metavision Raichi when??)
...I never get tired of Isagi reinventing himself, even when it leads to developments that sound stupidly obvious panel to panel and chapeter to chapter, it's all done with an aim to delivering one satisfying moment of Isagi breaking everything around him per match. The "Isagi's cooking" dopamine is real.
Where this one seems to be going is Isagi developing a "slider" for his meta-vision "lens", using Barou's example and probably Lorenzo's, once he figures out how Lorenzo sees the game. The realisation we seem to be building towards is that while full meta-vision is costly to use all the time, he can run a lower level version most of the time by keeping track of key players which then allows him to respond to those players making moves and generate opportunities. Effectively, he can optimise his use of the existing process. In cases where's playing against other, similarly gifted players this could even let him effectively conserve his energy for key moments by reading the state of play from the opposing playmaker instead of expending the extra mental energy, though it seems like a great way to get burned if someone catches on.
Where this one seems to be going is Isagi developing a "slider" for his meta-vision "lens", using Barou's example and probably Lorenzo's, once he figures out how Lorenzo sees the game. The realisation we seem to be building towards is that while full meta-vision is costly to use all the time, he can run a lower level version most of the time by keeping track of key players which then allows him to respond to those players making moves and generate opportunities. Effectively, he can optimise his use of the existing process. In cases where's playing against other, similarly gifted players this could even let him effectively conserve his energy for key moments by reading the state of play from the opposing playmaker instead of expending the extra mental energy, though it seems like a great way to get burned if someone catches on.
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I will still be here, quietly waiting in the wings for the glorious moment we get to see Raichi's SEXY FOOTBALL. It will be amazing. For now, I wait.
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Maybe it's partially cos of my bias against MCs but Isagi just pisses me off 😂 he doesn't bring any excitement for me at all...
Obviously this is a shōnen manga, so Isagi developing immensely every game is expected, but it would be interesting to see someone else snuff him out and "take the crown" so to speak 🤔
Obviously this is a shōnen manga, so Isagi developing immensely every game is expected, but it would be interesting to see someone else snuff him out and "take the crown" so to speak 🤔
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The "Inputting is so much fun" line goes hard af
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Unfortunately there's not much we can do about it. Weekly Shonen Magazine simply has awful inking. It's the balance we have to make when the chapters are released 3 days earlier than the official simulpub.
If you want the cleanest scans you can read the simulpub chapters on K Manga, the translation is pretty much exactly the same as ours, sometimes word for word. You can see our releases as an early preview copy or something.
