Boku wa Isekai de Fuyo Mahou to Shoukan Mahou wo Tenbin ni Kakeru - Vol. 3 Ch. 13

[MangaDex]

 

[ysil69]

I don't understand Isekia mangaka and their obsession with rape. Like, it doesn't add anything to the story.

 

[EchoGirl]

tftc

 

[Madnacc]

I don't understand Isekia mangaka and their obsession with rape. Like, it doesn't add anything to the story.

Especially when it's rape for the sake of rape. At least come up with a reason.
So far there've been multiple cases where orcs where shown doing it with apparently dead bodies. So either those orcs are necrophiliacs or the victims died during the process. Either case there's no point to it, there's no argument the orcs need it to procreate or something.

 

[Kaarme]

They must have been transported right next to a whole town of orcs. Many have already been defeated, but more keep coming.

I don't understand Isekia mangaka and their obsession with rape. Like, it doesn't add anything to the story.

It adds realism. I have read a whole lot of isekai, but I wouldn't necessarily call it an obsession. It's there a lot, but not through and through. It's also exceedingly predominantly depicted as vile, as it should, which doesn't make it seem weird. Unlike slavery. Many an isekai author goes a long way to depict slavery as something okay, in the extreme cases as something positive, even desirable. That bothers me a lot. Rape is something sad that has happened in all wars in RL as well, quite a lot. Before the modern times, it happened everywhere in what you could call an organised manner even outside of wars/occupation. Well, it still might in some of the less fortunate countries. So, it's pure realism.

 

[NARESH4444]

I don't understand Isekia mangaka and their obsession with rape. Like, it doesn't add anything to the story.

Especially when it's rape for the sake of rape. At least come up with a reason.
So far there've been multiple cases where orcs where shown doing it with apparently dead bodies. So either those orcs are necrophiliacs or the victims died during the process. Either case there's no point to it, there's no argument the orcs need it to procreate or something.

It adds realism. I have read a whole lot of isekai, but I wouldn't necessarily call it an obsession. It's there a lot, but not through and through. It's also exceedingly predominantly depicted as vile, as it should, which doesn't make it seem weird. Unlike slavery. Many an isekai author goes a long way to depict slavery as something okay, in the extreme cases as something positive, even desirable. That bothers me a lot. Rape is something sad that has happened in all wars in RL as well, quite a lot. Before the modern times, it happened everywhere in what you could call an organised manner even outside of wars/occupation. Well, it still might in some of the less fortunate countries. So, it's pure realism.

It's also worth pointing out that rape and interspecies rape is common as Hell in the animal kingdom.

So orcs looking to pork are simply being more tied in with their animal nature.

The monster nature comes from the fact they're inteligent enough to feel pleasure as a bonus,but unlike chimpanzees who use sex as a social aspect,they've gone the route of doplhin debauchery.

Anyone trying to add human explanations to what non-humans do need to remember who they're talking 'bout,their values don't line up with us,if they even have what we could even term as values,and this means saying authors do it for the Hell of it is shallow,because even those who do it to get their own rocks off and share that high with others,it's not as if the animals within us ever left once you look back at our own history,there's precendent for adding it when making a more grim but realistic tale.

 

[lol126]

I don't understand Isekia mangaka and their obsession with rape. Like, it doesn't add anything to the story.

Shock value and adds in stakes. Also it gives a gruesome depiction by showing you explicitly that some horrible shit will happen if they ever fail.

 

[lol126]

They must have been transported right next to a whole town of orcs. Many have already been defeated, but more keep coming.


It adds realism. I have read a whole lot of isekai, but I wouldn't necessarily call it an obsession. It's there a lot, but not through and through. It's also exceedingly predominantly depicted as vile, as it should, which doesn't make it seem weird. Unlike slavery. Many an isekai author goes a long way to depict slavery as something okay, in the extreme cases as something positive, even desirable. That bothers me a lot. Rape is something sad that has happened in all wars in RL as well, quite a lot. Before the modern times, it happened everywhere in what you could call an organised manner even outside of wars/occupation. Well, it still might in some of the less fortunate countries. So, it's pure realism.

It might be due to different views.

A lot of times in history slavery while a bad thing was not necessarily a horrible thing, at least in several systems it wasn't like in the USA where the slaves were looked down as not even humans. They were most often treated as servants or prisoners of war and not as lesser people, with some slaves having decent treatment and even rights and others being limited to debt slaves and all that. As such they might not put it in a purely negative light simply because it wasn't purely negative in their culture while in ours we did all sorts of horrible things in slavery.

But yeah depends on the series 'cause there's some vile shit out there

on the other hand it sort of depends on where you look because slavery is often treated in Isekai as something where the slaves are treated horribly for the most part and the MC is the only good "master" there.

 

[ARealCoolGuy]

I don't understand Isekia mangaka and their obsession with rape. Like, it doesn't add anything to the story.

Half true. It immediately makes things a lot darker and makes the situation more serious and tense, as well as giving the situation a sense of morbid maturity; that said, you could probably make due with just violence and and a dab of nudity, and it wouldn't turn people away nearly as much.
Though it does often feel like the rape is added for creepy fan service rather than adding anything to the world building or plot.

It's there a lot, but not through and through.

Don't totally agree with you here. Practically every time a goblin or orc is shown, it's mentioned that they rape women.
I've said previously that I don't really understand where the cliche has come from - goblins have gone from green little pests, to some of the most gross 'kill it with fire' enemies out there. It's like every mangaka woke up and decided all goblins and orcs are male only species and must rape to survive.

It's also exceedingly predominantly depicted as vile, as it should, which doesn't make it seem weird.

I'm not sure if they do? To me it seems like it's just thrown out there; so if they're into that kind of thing, it's still going to be hot, but if you're not you just sort of glaze past it. But I get the impression that many are kind of into it, like this author, though maybe that's just my impression.
It just doesn't seem any more vile than what you may read if a rather unfortunate porn comic, and since that's the case, I feel it is often there for titillation.

It's also worth pointing out that rape and interspecies rape is common as Hell in the animal kingdom.

True, but you're way overstating it's occurrence (as far as I know anyway).
If it we're being more accurate to the animal kingdom, we'd only see one or two orcs doing it, not EVERY orc doing it to EVERY woman they see. That's why it feels like it's more of a fictional forced thing rather than something that would actually happen if orcs existed as a natural species of animal.

Anyone trying to add human explanations to what non-humans do need to remember who they're talking 'bout,their values don't line up with us

Sure, but authors are human and so are their audience - people are allowed to complain if they find what an author writes to be in bad taste. This doesn't mean you can't approach subjects such as rape, or even interspecies rape, but I'm sure you agree that this author probably could have handled it a little more delicately (not that I'm the one complaining, I'm just talking about the trend as a whole).
Also, not to be an ass, but remember to add a space after your commas, that last paragraph was oddly hard for me to read without them.

 

[ZeroBRS]

I don't understand Isekia mangaka and their obsession with rape. Like, it doesn't add anything to the story.

Is 100% fetish. I think people should stop looking at what they don't like, especially when it is just for entertainment.
I don't really specifically adress this to you only but more in general.
For example I don't even lose time comment on Shojo/BL manga and just move on with my life when I accidenly read them.

 

[The_H_Guy]

I don't understand Isekia mangaka and their obsession with rape. Like, it doesn't add anything to the story.

Dude... this is a blood, boobs, and battles manga (the 3 B of fun).
Of course rape add to it.

 

[NARESH4444]

True, but you're way overstating it's occurrence (as far as I know anyway).
If it we're being more accurate to the animal kingdom, we'd only see one or two orcs doing it, not EVERY orc doing it to EVERY woman they see. That's why it feels like it's more of a fictional forced thing rather than something that would actually happen if orcs existed as a natural species of animal.

Sure, but authors are human and so are their audience - people are allowed to complain if they find what an author writes to be in bad taste. This doesn't mean you can't approach subjects such as rape, or even interspecies rape, but I'm sure you agree that this author probably could have handled it a little more delicately (not that I'm the one complaining, I'm just talking about the trend as a whole).
Also, not to be an ass, but remember to add a space after your commas, that last paragraph was oddly hard for me to read without them.

You,and my commas,will continue,without fail,to be introduced like this,until the end of time,and you will,regardless,read the sentence accordingly.​

And it's not one or two when one looks at dolphins,gang rape is a thing for them,along with showing their junk in porpoise blowholes and river dolphins using decapitated fish as fleshlights.

One could argue that the orcs are smarter,hence their debauchery grew to be more systematic in getting the most bang for their buck.

Those who write fiction are not bound by anyone or anything,save for stupid laws in their respective nations that inhibit free speech,and a monster being delicate is not how one writes a monster,they're supposed to be monstrous by being non-human,their entire operation in life is to do their own their own way,be it being more humanoid with different inteligence and concepts that make them unable to live alongside humans or beings that do things that would otherwise cause intense fear.

Once you've made a monster delicate to human sensibilities and can be reasoned with,they're humans...or something much,much more sinister that makes flaterry their favourite lure.

At the same time,if we talk trends,then magic fantasy creatures have been sexual deviants that threaten fair maidens before the dashing heroes rush into the scene have been around for the longest time,and this story is quite literally that.

 

[Imatoumi]

Something something "eros and thanatos are very close" ; sexual violence and death sell, that's all. Most stories like that lean on both because they work together best. It's not a matter of realism or anything, it just sells better like that...

 

[Kaarme]

on the other hand it sort of depends on where you look because slavery is often treated in Isekai as something where the slaves are treated horribly for the most part and the MC is the only good "master" there.

That annoys me the most: A modern (Japanese) person embraces the slavery system in the fantasy world, while still usually being depicted as a good and fair guy, and his slaves love being his property.

At the end of the day, being a slave is better than being dead. It can be better than being imprisoned infinitely. But that's pretty much where it stops. Anybody would rather be a free person and hired to do a job, not forced to do for free. Sure, being a rare, educated slave of a rich family could be healthier than being a poor, free man toiling in some terrible, dangerous job, but being an educated, hired employee would still be vastly preferable. That's just how it is.

 

[tekkenshu7]

Thanks for the new chapter!

Really difficult to take Mia seriously but it is her defense mechanism, trying to cope with what is happening and all.

 

[beggarSoChan2020l2r3]

I don't understand Isekia mangaka and their obsession with rape. Like, it doesn't add anything to the story.

because (japanese) H + ero = HERO

 

[nueee]

Diddy Party

 

[NARESH4444]

because (japanese) H + ero = HERO

There's a comic with an animated adaptation that distills that aspect right to the very core.

 

[FloorRoof]

I don't understand Isekia mangaka and their obsession with rape. Like, it doesn't add anything to the story.

It's a pretty cheap addition most of the time too. It can happen at any moment, and then be disregarded a few panels later to make room for humor or fanservice. The mood goes all over the place. Attempted rape is especially cheap and can be briefly added into any otherwise wholesome romcom as a generic plot device and not make any lasting impact.

 

[ShikiAlter]

This is magazine? It has those extra texts at start... no more volume? So it will get more censored?