Calbania Monogatari - Vol. 10 Ch. 43.7 - Eque's Spring, Part 7
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Aww this is so touching. I feel that even tho those uncles are always bickering with Eque, they knew she's fit for the job
And honestly with this chapter duke nyx(i forgot his name) 100% is on the bottom of my most dislike character. Seriously bro, why so petty.
And honestly with this chapter duke nyx(i forgot his name) 100% is on the bottom of my most dislike character. Seriously bro, why so petty.
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That was interesting conclusion. I feel like there was not enough behind the scenes situation explained. Old shily clearly was confident enough to bet everything on it and he just explained it as a gamble. Sure, it ended up working brilliantly, but I want to know more about how it worked.
@Lililily Was Ryan ever the type of person to just let go and do nothing when his beloved person is getting away from him? I mean, I guess he let her go once, lol, but really, it was antagonistic towards Eque, but completely reasonable.
@Lililily Was Ryan ever the type of person to just let go and do nothing when his beloved person is getting away from him? I mean, I guess he let her go once, lol, but really, it was antagonistic towards Eque, but completely reasonable.
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To be fair it makes sense that Eque would get most of the votes, she has been involved in the affairs of the duchy and probably have a closer connection to more of the people that was voting compared to the other candidates, so the votes that doesn't go to Eque would likely be scattered among different candidates, so even if she hadn't gotten a majority of the votes it is unlikely that any of the other candidates would have either.
And the vote happening on short notice was actually to Eque's benefit, since it meant none of the other candidates actually had time to rally support.
And the vote happening on short notice was actually to Eque's benefit, since it meant none of the other candidates actually had time to rally support.
@kwendy but she isnt going away or getting away. She still wants to be with him. yes sure the old custom is 2 heads of different family could not get married. But i dont think Eque is the type who would stick to such custom. If its any other woman fine. Ryan's(ah yes this is his name) decision makes more sense, but this is Eque. With Tania as the queen for her back up. And this story has always pick an unconventional way to solve many problems so why not now?
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@Lililily It's not custom, it's pretty much problem of heritage. Political system does not allow two houses to unite, it would be like two states becoming one out of whim of two people. Unless author pulls revolution out of nowhere and dismantle established feudal system (dislodging Tanya in the process), Eque becoming female ruler just denied Ryan possibility to ever marry Eque. Unless he abdicates himself, but I don't remember any legitimate heir of his duchy who could take the land from him nor I remember Ryan being kind of person to abdicate in the name of love. But who knows - maybe he will find himself a substitute in the future.
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I'm so happy!!! This chapter is a pure bliss!!
@kwendy it is a.custom tho. Royalty siblings with the same bloodline are usually given areas to rule and given the title of dukes even when they are basically came from 1 house but non royalty cant? talking about heritage doesnt make sense in Ryan's case. Because he wasnt into women in the first place, nor he ever plan to have an heir or anything like that before he met Eque. His duchy will probably be inherited or continued by his non immediate family before. But now it's a matter of heritage problem?
And in Eque case, the duchy can still be inherited by Fran after her abdication. If they wanted to in an unconventional way. They could still retain their own family name and Tania doesnt have to be dethroned. Ofc alot of the elders will be against it im pre sure about it. But if coregency is a thing why not two states leads by a married couple who still retains their own family names?
If you remember Tania and and the prince of pama faces the same problem. But prince of Pama still want to be with Tania while still supporting her as a queen not relieving his crown prince status to his brother. Saying he wanted to find a way. Ofc that is deemed as something impossible by Tania herself. Compared to this Ryan and Eque is so much simpler.
But as much as I understand where Ryan came from and the problem that comes follow with two family leaders united. He is still selfish and was against Eque agresively becoming the duchess knowing how it means so much for Eque to inherit her father role because of what? He wanted to always be with Eque in a physical sense? Yeaaah- no. I really doubt the author will make another man the partner for Eque tbh, so the author will answers this in the future.
And in Eque case, the duchy can still be inherited by Fran after her abdication. If they wanted to in an unconventional way. They could still retain their own family name and Tania doesnt have to be dethroned. Ofc alot of the elders will be against it im pre sure about it. But if coregency is a thing why not two states leads by a married couple who still retains their own family names?
If you remember Tania and and the prince of pama faces the same problem. But prince of Pama still want to be with Tania while still supporting her as a queen not relieving his crown prince status to his brother. Saying he wanted to find a way. Ofc that is deemed as something impossible by Tania herself. Compared to this Ryan and Eque is so much simpler.
But as much as I understand where Ryan came from and the problem that comes follow with two family leaders united. He is still selfish and was against Eque agresively becoming the duchess knowing how it means so much for Eque to inherit her father role because of what? He wanted to always be with Eque in a physical sense? Yeaaah- no. I really doubt the author will make another man the partner for Eque tbh, so the author will answers this in the future.
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Marriage is a political contract of high grade. Ok, you may call it custom, but if whole medieval society it moved by such customs, that are solidified by legislation, those are laws.
That's the case of the lands under single family - royal family. In case of Eque and Nix, there are two families who will either have claims on two separate duchies or one of them if Eque marries in. And if a relative from one land have claims on another... Well, hundred years war happens.
Sure, Nix has no offspring, but would he really abandon his own duchy to marry in Eque's family?
Inconventional way is Eque actually becoming female family head in fact. Fran inheriting the land is exactly what Ryan wanted.
Two married people with separate family names leading two states would make them not a married people.
Prince of Pama is pretty self-contradicting character. What he said to his father suggests he gave up, yet still not willing to stop pointlessly courting Tanya.
Yes, this is the same problem as with dukes and it would demand the change of political system to resolve it.
Uniting two family leaders = uniting two families = uniting two duchies = defeating the purpose of having duchies. Probably threatening Tanya's interests in the process. I mean, maybe there is some historical justification that would allow the reshaping of the kingdom, but for noone to mention it to this point is would be huge copout and will ruin consistency of the series.
Marriage is a political contract of high grade. Ok, you may call it custom, but if whole medieval society it moved by such customs, that are solidified by legislation, those are laws.
That's the case of the lands under single family - royal family. In case of Eque and Nix, there are two families who will either have claims on two separate duchies or one of them if Eque marries in. And if a relative from one land have claims on another... Well, hundred years war happens.
Sure, Nix has no offspring, but would he really abandon his own duchy to marry in Eque's family?
Inconventional way is Eque actually becoming female family head in fact. Fran inheriting the land is exactly what Ryan wanted.
Two married people with separate family names leading two states would make them not a married people.
Prince of Pama is pretty self-contradicting character. What he said to his father suggests he gave up, yet still not willing to stop pointlessly courting Tanya.
Yes, this is the same problem as with dukes and it would demand the change of political system to resolve it.
Uniting two family leaders = uniting two families = uniting two duchies = defeating the purpose of having duchies. Probably threatening Tanya's interests in the process. I mean, maybe there is some historical justification that would allow the reshaping of the kingdom, but for noone to mention it to this point is would be huge copout and will ruin consistency of the series.
@kwendy It is a radical view but yes- you can get married while still retaining your last name. Family name, this ruling probably doesnt exist yet in Eque's time but she is the first duchess in their history, she could make more firsts after her ruling. When I mention Fran, I meant that Eque is to relinquish her state to Fran AFTER she finished ruling it. And Ryan could do the same with other relative son or uncles. Or maybe their ofspirngs can delegate who get which.
But well if Ryan and Eque dont ends up together is actually to my preference if in your opinion this would split them up permanently then it is actually to my advantage(?).
Yes stay that way. Dont modernized your custom and seperate🤫
Also about Pama I just want to give an comparison of my prefered attitude over Ryan's disgarerement of Eque, and Pama's supporting Tania's ruling. Already said Eque and Ryan'd are much more simpler. So I just let the author deal with them. 🙃
But well if Ryan and Eque dont ends up together is actually to my preference if in your opinion this would split them up permanently then it is actually to my advantage(?).
Yes stay that way. Dont modernized your custom and seperate🤫
Also about Pama I just want to give an comparison of my prefered attitude over Ryan's disgarerement of Eque, and Pama's supporting Tania's ruling. Already said Eque and Ryan'd are much more simpler. So I just let the author deal with them. 🙃
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@Lililily You focused on wrong thing here: names are not what is important here. Political roles are.
What do you mean "finished ruling"? It's a lifelong heredatory position. Old duke's abdication was really pushing it. It's not hired position you can just "leave to someone". And you don't just relegate responcibility willy-nilly, it's pretty much asking for legal chaos. They are feuldals, aristocrats, those things are what their whole system built upon.
I never said anything about my preferences regarding Eque's love life, I just pointed out their marriage is pretty much impossible in current circumstances and that Ryan actually wanted to mitigate those circumstances in a way that was reasonable for his position and character.
No, Pama circumstances are pretty much same, you were correct. Just a bit bigger and with no higher power (for dukes it's royality) to regulate things. Pama's prince went more romantic "unreachable love" route while Ryan went more pragmatical and possessive route. You may like one way more then another, but as for wich one is the wrong way is a matter of perspective really.
What do you mean "finished ruling"? It's a lifelong heredatory position. Old duke's abdication was really pushing it. It's not hired position you can just "leave to someone". And you don't just relegate responcibility willy-nilly, it's pretty much asking for legal chaos. They are feuldals, aristocrats, those things are what their whole system built upon.
I never said anything about my preferences regarding Eque's love life, I just pointed out their marriage is pretty much impossible in current circumstances and that Ryan actually wanted to mitigate those circumstances in a way that was reasonable for his position and character.
English, please?
No, Pama circumstances are pretty much same, you were correct. Just a bit bigger and with no higher power (for dukes it's royality) to regulate things. Pama's prince went more romantic "unreachable love" route while Ryan went more pragmatical and possessive route. You may like one way more then another, but as for wich one is the wrong way is a matter of perspective really.
@kwendy they are from different duchy but they are still from the same kingdom, I understand that my theory as how they could be together is rather radical on their time, but a union of two people with different political voice, is possible, their old belief on how things should be done is what limits them from achieving this. (Also i fully understand if it wont take this path considering their time). what i meant by *finished ruling* her estate as the duchess. Meant the time when she decide to retire, just like how Eque's dad delegate his job to Eque. It is a job you can leave to someone, as this chapter itself talk about, not random someone, but hey-Fran is there alongside the candidate as the next duke, it's all legal? And I believe Ryan can do the same when he wants to retire or if he doesnt want to and want to rule for his lifetime? You do you Ryan.
I am also not probing your preference or making any assumption just mentioning im fine with the way it is and I actually prefer their seperation.
And i already said I understand where he(ryan) is coming from.
When I said dont modernize your custom i meant that for Eque and Ryan, not you. If you fail to comprehend then sorry? English is my 3rd language. I admit my grammars are still wonky.
And I honestly never impose other on how to think about ryan, or to prefer pama over someone else? Did i do that? Or did i said something close to that? Im just voicing my dislike towards a character I initially already dislike. And this is- as you said, my perspective.
I am also not probing your preference or making any assumption just mentioning im fine with the way it is and I actually prefer their seperation.
And i already said I understand where he(ryan) is coming from.
When I said dont modernize your custom i meant that for Eque and Ryan, not you. If you fail to comprehend then sorry? English is my 3rd language. I admit my grammars are still wonky.
And I honestly never impose other on how to think about ryan, or to prefer pama over someone else? Did i do that? Or did i said something close to that? Im just voicing my dislike towards a character I initially already dislike. And this is- as you said, my perspective.
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