Can we get a list of words US culture considers hateful?

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I just caught a 3 day ban for using a word I thought was innocous and though disrespectful, not a slur.
Now, I was purposely being a cunt because of how hillariously anti-trans that particular manga is, so really I'm not against the ban itself.
It's just with such a diversity people of reading and comenting on manga here, a list of hatefull rather than just disrespectful words would be helpful for us foreigners.
 
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yup, no idea that word was a slur
A podcast I listen to on youtube uses that word all the time and it doesn't get banned
Honestly had no idea USians considered that a slur and not just a trans equivalent of cunt
 
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OK. First of all, this is my first time seeing that "tr" word. Had no idea what it means. Maybe it's a new term or maybe I'm just not American enough to catch up and learn these new words. shrugs Maybe the mods should have given a warning instead of a 3-day ban right away. It does seem excessive. As for OP, if the podcast you listen to uses this kind of questionable vocab, maybe it's not something worth listening to? Also, I didn't get what was anti-trans about that manga or chapter, either.

Second of all, asking for a list of words Americans consider offensive is a fool's errand. Any word can be considered offensive when used in different context, situation, and time. A word that means nothing today can be forbidden tomorrow. Some people are extra sensitive to basically everything, some less so. Your list can be as long as an entire dictionary. For example: the word trap can be used to describe a crossdressing boy. It didn't carry any negative meaning, until some people gave themselves the right to decide for everyone that it's an offensive word and want to ban it. How long before these words are banned as well?

Femboy, transformers, Tran (Vietnamese last name), trench, futanari, crossdressers, tram, ningen, nigerun dayo, niggardly, nagging, Niger, nickel, etc.

Idiot A hijacks a word to use it in a derogatory way. Idiot B then declares that word a taboo and wants to ban it. The sensible thing to do is to ignore Idiot A and tell Idiot B to stfu as well. The US do not have the authority to make the rest of the world bow down to them. What happens when you have a word that Americans consider to be offensive but Canadians don't? If you ban a word, trolls will just invent a new one to circumvent the ban. Or they hijack another word and you ban that word, too, and they move on to another.

I suggest that we don't ban words, unless they can only used in a derogatory way, but see what kind of context a word is used in, or if the point of a post is really just to be spreading hate.
 

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I'm finding it hard to suspend my disbelief when you said "dab on the troons"
Disbelief of what?
That I made a purposedly rude comment not knowing the word I was using is considered a slur?
Particularly when it's not against youtube's terms?
 
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Disbelief of what?
That I made a purposedly rude comment not knowing the word I was using is considered a slur?
Particularly when it's not against youtube's terms?
"I thought it was like cunt, but for trans people. How was I supposed to know it was a slur?"
what the fuck do you think it is when you make pejorative for a specific group of people? Is the N word "cunt, but for black people"?
the fact you read some page with some low tier anime genderbend humor and decided to make comments about "dabbing troons" only proves they live rent free in your head and probably say this shit all the time on 4chan or your discord server or whatever. Mods can ban me right now for saying this if they want: I don't like trans people. However, I'm not going to go around parading it in tangentially related media and dragging the discussion over to them.
Let alone start a thread complaining you got slapped on the wrist for it. I don't blame mods at all for just dropping a cap of your post and laughing at you, honestly even that was more than you deserved.

and I don't know what this appeal to authority BS is supposed to mean, YT moderation isn't exactly cutting edge. I can link you a playlist right now called "literally porn" that is exactly that. The only thing they care to moderate is DMCA claims.
 

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the fact you read some page with some low tier anime genderbend humor and decided to make comments about "dabbing troons" only proves they live rent free in your head and probably say this shit all the time on 4chan or your discord server or whatever.
That's the joke, nyotaika has nothing to do with the realities transgenderism, yet the imp "dabs on them" via a callout. That's why that panel is so funny.
One's is about changing one's look to fit their identity, the other's about the consequences of a changing body upon the mind.

And if by rent free you mean that my favorite manga tag is genderbender, you're right
edit: wtf do you mean apeal to authority?
I just said that yt, famous for disappering whole channels and music bands without recourse, does not consider that word a slur, thus leading me to believe that word was not a slur.
Also the this only place I post on, don't really have the time or the pacience for anything else
 
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You know, all of this would be solved if people could block others and not see their content, and also set up a filter tied to their account where they can put whatever word they want and it gets censored for them alone.
That way, everyone can speak their mind and nobody has to suffer idiotic censorship. Sounds like a swell idea to me.

Too bad it will never be implemented, because people in charge everywhere like to have power over not having it. That's just the nature of the beast.
 
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Let alone start a thread complaining you got slapped on the wrist for it. I don't blame mods at all for just dropping a cap of your post and laughing at you, honestly even that was more than you deserved.
Btw, I was clearly being a cunt, I don't mind the ban. If it said, "go touch grass buddy" I wouldn't have cared at all.
It's just anoying to get the hammer explicitly for something you couldn't have possibly known was banned
 
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taking a wild stab in the dark here and saying this was probably not an issue of word choice

trying to get a list of words you're allowed to say or not say and acting like you're safe if you stick to the list is just playing the refs
 
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That's a funny thread because MangaDex is the least US-centric global platform you'll find out there...
The vast majority of the staff is not from the USA nor tied to it, and more importantly we don't give two shits about the insane language/culture wars going on over there. We just want to read and discuss manga.

However, "troon" is obviously and uncontestably a slur.
Even if you claim that you didn't know (and let's be honest, you totally did know), now you know.

And it's not some newly-bad-word-from-2-weeks-ago. Nor is it due to the drivel coming out of some B-tier pseudo-journalism clickbait site. If you knew the word, you knew it is a slur. It's just not a mainstream word in the first place, and especially never was used in any other way.
Just like "nigger" and "fag" and other similar ones. If you need a list for such obvious cases, just stay away from our forums.

And no, MangaDex isn't trying to be some RE-tier "watch your words" super-sanitized place where discussion is essentially impossible.
But we are equally against the forums devolving into /pol/-tier brainrot.
Just be reasonable, it's not that hard.
 
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I speak spanish,and can't stand every high-schooler that went to its first spanish class,and cry when they see that in the list of colors,there is THAT word for BLACK.
Also we're not stupid. You won't get banned for saying "negro" in a Spanish chapter's comments if you mean "black" the colour by it. This isn't some automatic moderation list.
This is another reason why there is no (and never will be any) automated "list" in the first place.
 

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However, "troon" is obviously and uncontestably a slur.
Even if you claim that you didn't know (and let's be honest, you totally did know), now you know.
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Why would I even lie about this? I thought it was just internet lolcow lingo like coomer, chud, simp, incel, soyboy, npc and whatever else popped up since I stoped having time to be a no life internet race redditor
If you want to know I heard it from Metokur and never thought twice about it

It's really annoying to be randomly acused of lying about inconsequential nothings you'd think people would just take at face value

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MangaDex isn't trying to be some RE-tier "watch your words" super-sanitized
What's RE? ResetEra? If so, that's a blast from the past. Haven't seen it mentioned in 5 years
 
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@tristan9 pretty much summed up my thoughts. MD is not a carebear environment but we do hold our users to some very basic standards, namely, not using slurs as a show of respect to your fellow posters.

It's pretty amusing whenever someone complains about catching a ban or getting warned for using racial slurs or phrases, no matter how obscure they think the slur/phrase is or claim to not have known it was a slur.

You ain't slick.
 
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Why would I even lie about this? I thought it was just internet lolcow lingo like coomer, chud, simp, incel, soyboy, npc and whatever else popped up
Well, then you're part of the 1% of people who legitimately used it without knowing. We have no way to trust you, and everyone says that. So we have to act as if you're part of the 99% that's just trying to "tehe I didn't know" us.
If that's truly the case, we're sorry you got caught in the crossfire.

Tho do note, calling other people "incel", "soyboy", "npc", etc. is also not okay. While we wouldn't regard them as badly as "troon", it's still rude asf to say that to someone else.

What's RE? ResetEra?
Yup
 

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Why would I even lie about this? I thought it was just internet lolcow lingo like coomer, chud, simp, incel, soyboy, npc and whatever else popped up since I stoped having time to be a no life internet race redditor
If you want to know I heard it from Metokur and never thought twice about it

It's really annoying to be randomly acused of lying about inconsequential nothings you'd think people would just take at face value
Btw, I was clearly being a cunt, I don't mind the ban. If it said, "go touch grass buddy" I wouldn't have cared at all.
It's just anoying to get the hammer explicitly for something you couldn't have possibly known was banned
 
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