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It's like everyone that has an opinion on this topic here only knows about it through osmosis and keeps shitting out of their mouth. It has nothing to do with your Soyjacks about how "thing, Japan". Vtuber doesn't refer to simply someone that streams using an avatar. Technology focused on motion captioning your face has existed since long ago, case in point, before 2016 when the actual term "Vtuber" was coined, FaceRig was already a thing. I'd fucking know, I wanted to have that program so bad as a kid to make my YouTube career as someone behind an avatar in 2015.
 
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KizunaAi coined the term, she worked for a company whose goal was to create a virtual idol, much like Hatsune Miku, but more interactive with the fans. She was paraded around, she had a fucking interview with Christoph Waltz. Then other companies started creating virtual "idol groups". That's what vtubers actually are. Everything that came after was just hijacking of the hobby, including importing it overseas. Just because the name is generic doesn't mean the origin and idea are.
 
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The article still doesn't say what a Vtuber CAN'T be.


From the exact wikipedia article you literally sent.
I sent a Wikipedia article to make fun of you. Because it's the lowest common denominatior of where one would get their sources for anything.

In the modern landscape anyone can be a Vtuber if they say they are, but you're retroactively changing things that never were "Vtubers", because it didn't fucking exist before 2016 just because you clearly hate Japanese culture.
 
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I sent a Wikipedia article to make fun of you. Because it's the lowest common denominatior of where one would get their sources for anything.

In the modern landscape anyone can be a Vtuber if they say they are, but you're retroactively changing things that never were "Vtubers", because it didn't fucking exist before 2016 just because you clearly hate Japanese culture.
Linguistic prescriptivism. If one was concerned with origins I would be hating on people for using the phrase third or first world countries which are obsolete and referred to alliances in the cold war but people use it as economic development
 
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Linguistic prescriptivism. If one was concerned with origins I would be hating on people for using the phrase third or first world countries which are obsolete and referred to alliances in the cold war but people use it as economic development
Except I'm the one that cares for origins and respect for the culture. Clearly you don't, you actually went the extra mile to shit on vtubers having a Japanese origin by doing the whole schtick of "thing, Japan". Also, why the fuck should I care if I'm doing linguistic prescriptivism on a term when the essence of said term changing ruined the quality of an entire hobby?, reminder that the term is even being used by all kinds of steamers in all sorts of platforms despite the fact that the term literally has "YouTuber" as a part of it.
 
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Could be worse, at least we're not freaking out over a male and female vtuber collaborating
I never cared for it but it was hilarious how many graduations it caused. Obviously it's all part of the toxic cloud that is idol culture but it was a flaw that came with the fact that hobby was designed after it. I think last time it was relevant was when half of HolostarsEn just went up and died, lol
 
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Except I'm the one that cares for origins and respect for the culture. Clearly you don't, you actually went the extra mile to shit on vtubers having a Japanese origin by doing the whole schtick of "thing, Japan". Also, why the fuck should I care if I'm doing linguistic prescriptivism on a term when the essence of said term changing ruined the quality of an entire hobby?, reminder that the term is even being used by all kinds of steamers in all sorts of platforms despite the fact that the term literally has "YouTuber" as a part of it.
Thing vs thing Japan is the idea that people ascribe something from Japan is better/sacred just because it's from japan ૮.ᆺ. ა

It comes from a post where someone pointed out that random photos from Japan got more attention than the same photos labeled as being from a different country ૮.ᆺ. ა

What @AnonymousContributor is saying, is you're making the idea of vtubers a more sacred thing than it actully is just because it's from japan ૮ .ᆺ. ა

Language evolves regardless of what people want, all fruit used to be called apple, the word 'fruit' is imported from the French language. 'Vtuber' is the inverse of a niche word becoming comman due to a need for such a word to be coined ૮ .ᆺ. ა

Since idols are a much more niche thing in the west, it was far more easier for the term to become diluted to what it is today. The majority of westerners don't know what 'idol culture' even is, other than "don't interact with the opposite gender", "no dating even in private", and for vtubers "Never show your face", even though its much more than that ૮ .ᆺ. ა

But regardless of what idol fans would've wanted, it was bound to happen due to a need for such a word to be coined ૮.ᆺ. ა
 
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Thing vs thing Japan is the idea that people ascribe something from Japan is better/sacred just because it's from japan ૮.ᆺ. ა

It comes from a post where someone pointed out that random photos from Japan got more attention than the same photos labeled as being from a different country ૮.ᆺ. ა
@Data_Gold Oh I know damn well where it comes from and what's it about, and as I said above, if I see anyone use this reddit tier ass reasoning I'm pummeling them viciously on the spot.
What @AnonymousContributor is saying, is you're making the idea of vtubers a more sacred thing than it actully is just because it's from japan ૮ .ᆺ. ა

Language evolves regardless of what people want, all fruit used to be called apple, the word 'fruit' is imported from the French language. 'Vtuber' is the inverse of a niche word becoming comman due to a need for such a word to be coined ૮ .ᆺ. ა
The fact that vtubers are not this 'sacred' thing anymore directly translates to the absolute garbage state the hobby is in right now.
Since idols are a much more niche thing in the west, it was far more easier for the term to become diluted to what it is today. The majority of westerners don't know what 'idol culture' even is, other than "don't interact with the opposite gender", "no dating even in private", and for vtubers "Never show your face", even though its much more than that ૮ .ᆺ. ა

But regardless of what idol fans would've wanted, it was bound to happen due to a need for such a word to be coined ૮.ᆺ. ა
I don't really care about what idol fans would have wanted, but the truth is that the entire model of the hobby was built around idol culture and the only reason it got popular in the first place is because of that. Without this framework the trend wouldn't have caught on yet now I keep having to read people wanting to rewrite history on what a Vtuber is when I had to watch it all fall apart with my very own eyes. And I ain't letting that slide.
 

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