Chainsaw Man - Ch. 231 - Goodbye, Pochita

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I see I'm a minority in having enjoyed part 2. It was a similar experience to part 1 to me: wasn't that invested at the early/middle chapters, but once shit hit the fan, I was all in.

Like, it'll be a letdown if this the end-end, but overall I liked the insanity. I'll probably re-read it all in one go once it's over because the weekly pacing and my dogshit memory don't get along that well.
 
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I thought the last chapter was literally Denji asking Asa if they could have sex, and it gave me such whiplash that I was stunned.

Then I re-read the last chapter, and I'm less stunned comparatively, Pochita eating himself is weird definitely a choice, and the logic doesn't really make sense (but we're reading a manga where the MC was just half a body, dropped his transformation and was fine) - if this were the actual end, I can sort of get behind it, depending on how the finale goes (if it's not just the end of Pt 2).

Bug Devil becoming the the thing that ends the world was something I didn't see coming, and there's really no other ass pull way for them to fix it.
 
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I see I'm a minority in having enjoyed part 2. It was a similar experience to part 1 to me: wasn't that invested at the early/middle chapters, but once shit hit the fan, I was all in.

Like, it'll be a letdown if this the end-end, but overall I liked the insanity. I'll probably re-read it all in one go once it's over because the weekly pacing and my dogshit memory don't get along that well.
I liked it too! And if Denji dies in his shed next chapter, its gonna hurt, but I'll appreciate it as a 'good' ending because it was very foreshadowed how Denji was only happy before knowing what a normal life was so and the running theme of him never being satisfied so it makes sense
 
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I don't understand why it mattered that they were eaten by a devil. They've been swallowed whole by devils before. Denji has been turned into body parts before, and put back together like he's made out of Legos. He's actually immortal on account of being a hybrid, but on top of that, he already ate the Death Devil. And they're in a mind space, right now, so I don't know how Pochita ate himself in it.
The devil that ate them may well be stronger than Pochita so maybe that's why they can't get out? If so, Denji and Pochita really fucked up first by eating Death, then not running aways from these bug devils even though Asa told him to run. Even if they did get out tho, Denji is now responsible for the mass extinction of humans, I doubt he'd have much will to go on. Maybe Pochita doesn't see the point in continuing if his boy is broken.
If that's actually the case, I can't entirely blame them-- Power did give Denji the task of finding and re-befriending her in Hell, and Denjiman went to Hell for all of two minutes just to be assaulted by a locust.
None of us need another by the numbers manga, and Denji going on a Power-finding trip would be just that. The death of a character is either permanent or meaningless, there's very little in between.
Anyhow, I've never been a fan of assuming people don't like a story because it's actually too mature or complex for them-- especially not here, when Aki was killed off well before Part 1 ended, which would imply that the majority of consistent Part 2 detractors didn't even care for the latter portion of Part 1.
I mean, I believe so mostly. Denji eating Makima kinda made up for it for most people, but I do think by and large people stopped being totally on board after Aki and Power were killed, which was the first major slap in the face of the typical shonen narrative. They held on to the hope Power/Reze would be revived, and got increasingly angry in the comments as that continued to not happen. People just wanted the manga to be the Darkness devil encounter in Hell repeated ad infinitum, Denji and his lovely friends fighting the mean devils. I'd much rather have this than read the same battle shonen formula for the hundreth time.

tldr Fujimoto dared to shake things up and managed to top the popularity charts at the same time, that's incredibly difficult and rare. To call that a mess is just mad.
 
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How am I supposed to believe that? I think the best time was when he was an operative — there was flirting, there was lots of delicious food, there were battles with demons. How could the best time be when he was eating garbage as a homeless person? That's nonsense.
Yeah that seems like a asspull a bit. I had no problems with part 2, but the ending seems almost like an axe. Maybe Fujimoto just had enough and brought forward the ending he was gonna do in a couple hundred chapters.
I actually think Denji is gonna die next chapter. It's a reference to Dony Darko kinda. We see him go do all this crazy cool main character shit that leads to the end of the world, but it loops back to the beginning and he dies and the universe is saved with his death. On a happy note, he will be the most happy in his little shaggy shed. There was some foreshadowing of sorts, when he tells Asa he couldn't go back to eating toilet paper. Now he can. Asa will probably walk pass his dead body and give no shits as she doesn't know who he is, but he'll be happy. The end.
Ngl that sounds like a CSM chapter.
 
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Ngl that sounds like a CSM chapter.
Right? When it came to me I realized it’s the most fujimoto thing ever. Also pochita was very specific that that’s when he was happiest, and denji told asa that after knowing the better life he can’t go back to his shed life. So pochita is basically telling him in gonna send you back to that so you can die happy without knowing what you’re missing in life
 
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Is he going to end the series and start a new one called Denji or something because Pochita ate himself?
 
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Bug Devil becoming the the thing that ends the world was something I didn't see coming, and there's really no other ass pull way for them to fix it.
I mean, with Pochita's power the options are endless. They could eat the birth devil so the critters won't multiply anymore. Or just puke Death back out. Make a contract with Death that only humans are excluded from dying. So they could fix this if they really wanted to, but I think the main issue is Pochita doesn't see how any amount of devil eating and puking is going to make this a world where Denji can be happy.
 
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I mean, with Pochita's power the options are endless. They could eat the birth devil so the critters won't multiply anymore. Or just puke Death back out. Make a contract with Death that only humans are excluded from dying. So they could fix this if they really wanted to, but I think the main issue is Pochita doesn't see how any amount of devil eating and puking is going to make this a world where Denji can be happy.
Isn't there a theory that chainsaw man/pochita is the birth devil.
 
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I thought the last chapter was literally Denji asking Asa if they could have sex, and it gave me such whiplash that I was stunned.
Clearly they did, and this chapter is Denji's post-nut clarity.

Maybe Fujimoto just had enough and brought forward the ending he was gonna do in a couple hundred chapters.
Work of the Boredom Devil.
 

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