Charao-kun to Seiso-chan - Ch. 7 - Total Confusion
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Oh it 100% happens. That's why I advise any guy to never ever take signs like these as a green light, no matter how much she throws herself at you. Unless she says it outright, just assume she doesnt mean it and if you try to get a verbal answer about whether she sees you "that way" and she avoids giving you it straight, distance yourself ASAP.
People like to talk about guys being "dense" and "stupid" for not getting girls' hints, but the reality is quite simply that most guys definitely notice these things. It's just that women can be very flaky about this stuff. Many do it for attention. Some change their mind after going too far in their "play." Hell, she might even have been interested in you, but something, at some time, might have given her the "ick" and she will then pretend that she was only being "friendly" and sometimes even accuse you of things because she now feels embarrassed for liking you. It's honestly a behavior that should be called out more; not only does it ruin it for everyone but it's just plain unsightly.
At the same time, the consequences of "guessing it wrong" can be massive, even if all you do is respond by asking them out. It's unfortunate, but this is why guys dont tend to respond to "hints" as much anymore.
Similarly to how normal men are affected by many women being extra wary of them because of predatory men, so do men have similar experiences that make them act extra reserved which might make normal women confused. The solution here is simply that women need to use their words more and open themselves up to being rejected.
(Oh, and this definitely extends to adult women lol).
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Get therapy.
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Why? Because I communicate directly rather than by "hints"?
It's good advice for guys in the modern age. Dont play the "hints" game, especially if you're being "teased" by a woman. If she acts that way and you like her, ask her if she is into you directly. Point out what she is doing. If she doesnt give you a straight answer, distance yourself from her. Just trust me. I say this simply to help people avoid bad women. I guess anyone is free to do what they want, though. Learn things the hard way.
Not doing so will likely make you actually need therapy, just FYI.
Oh, right, I guess people like to pretend that this isnt a thing, my bad. I guess you're right, women never do anything like this. No predatory men either, right? We are all just perfect
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No. 🙄Why? Because I communicate directly rather than by "hints"?
It's good advice for guys in the modern age. Dont play the "hints" game, especially if you're being "teased" by a woman. If she acts that way and you like her, ask her if she is into you directly. Point out what she is doing. If she doesnt give you a straight answer, distance yourself from her. Just trust me. I say this simply to help people avoid bad women. I guess anyone is free to do what they want, though. Learn things the hard way.
Not doing so will likely make you actually need therapy, just FYI.
Oh, right, I guess people like to pretend that this isnt a thing, my bad. I guess you're right, women never do anything like this. No predatory men either, right? We are all just perfect
For your Incel issue.
It's an awkward double bind to put yourself in, to act as a misogynist and at the same time desire an intimate relationship with a woman.
Those two things are at odds, but you are tying them up together with a bow made out of victimhood.
Which, to be frank, also not an attractive quality in a person.
Therapy friend. If you want your experience in life to be different, you need to change.
How am I a misogynist exactly? And how am I a victim? For saying that there are women that have bad intentions or that there are women who exhibit bad behavior? And because I advocate for direct communication? People like you really baffle me ngl. Also, it's rich of you to assume that I am desperate for a relationship or that I haven't been in one. BTW, even if you want an intimate relationship, that doesnt mean that you have to tolerate being treated badly. Yes, that includes not tolerating women treating you badly. They are not exempt from this. Shocking, I know.
You sound pretty naive, though, so perhaps it's projection of your own lack of experience?
Are women misandrists if they say that they dont tolerate pushy and creepy men?
Dont have any answers? Only "you're an incel"? Did the simple idea that women can, in fact, do things wrong, too, cause some emotional knee-jerk reaction to deny it? This very attitude is exactly why my advice is so important. It's not rare and it's very harmful. It silences the idea that men might need to look out for bad behavior from women. It's really just absurd. Why silence it?
The fact that you put these labels on me, though. That might warrant therapy. And that, most certainly, is an extremely unattractive quality, just FYI. (To any guys reading this, if a woman randomly labels you with buzzwords like these, it's probably best to avoid her.)
Men need to look out for themselves at least as much as women do. It's definitely not going to come from every woman out there, but you only need one woman to ruin things for you. Guys get hyper-scrutinized for how they approach women now, sometimes for good reasons, sometimes not. A consequence of that is that they are more careful when dealing with women's "hints." That simply means that women need to get their act together and stop expecting to be approached based on hints alone. Their expectations need to become just as modern as the standard that men are held to. That means having to communicate directly and verbally, as well as opening themselves up to rejection.
Men are not being "dense" when they dont react to hints, even if that sure makes it sound better to some women, I guess. At the same time, there are still many guys who are naive and are easily gaslit by women who are just toying with them into thinking that they are monsters just for taking those hints. Surely you don't consider that to be a good thing? Oh, right, I guess you probably think that this doesn't happen. Well, maybe you will understand once you start dating. Or maybe you've been lucky enough to avoid it. I'm sure many women have also never encountered any bad men. It happens
I have been victimized by such women, but I am not a "victim." (I cant admit to that, since it's apparently such a crime for man to be a victim according to you.) My solution is simply to be direct and not to take any bullshit anymore. It's a mindset that has served me well, even if I had to learn it the hard way. It's helped me filter out women that would only do me harm and it's helped me meet women of high quality. I thoroughly believe that this approach is the only way for things to work well between the genders in the modern age. It holds women to a higher standard, but that's not bad. It's high time that we held each other to the same standards. It's a message that would do a lot of men good.
(Yes, this is a pretty long, off-topic tangent under this chapter, but I simply replied to a person who asked if women do this kind of "teasing" without being romantically interested. I didnt need some inexperienced dimwit coming in and calling me an incel over literal common sense. Whenever I see shit like this, I'm tempted to push back against it, so please excuse this segment if the wall of text scared you.)
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My god, how the fuck your finger type all of this text.... I dont even mad when read it, just impress how ppl cant type long fucking retard textHow am I a misogynist exactly? And how am I a victim? For saying that there are women that have bad intentions or that there are women who exhibit bad behavior? And because I advocate for direct communication? People like you really baffle me ngl. Also, it's rich of you to assume that I am desperate for a relationship or that I haven't been in one. BTW, even if you want an intimate relationship, that doesnt mean that you have to tolerate being treated badly. Yes, that includes not tolerating women treating you badly. They are not exempt from this. Shocking, I know.
You sound pretty naive, though, so perhaps it's projection of your own lack of experience?
Are women misandrists if they say that they dont tolerate pushy and creepy men?
Dont have any answers? Only "you're an incel"? Did the simple idea that women can, in fact, do things wrong, too, cause some emotional knee-jerk reaction to deny it? This very attitude is exactly why my advice is so important. It's not rare and it's very harmful. It silences the idea that men might need to look out for bad behavior from women. It's really just absurd. Why silence it?
The fact that you put these labels on me, though. That might warrant therapy. And that, most certainly, is an extremely unattractive quality, just FYI. (To any guys reading this, if a woman randomly labels you with buzzwords like these, it's probably best to avoid her.)
Men need to look out for themselves at least as much as women do. It's definitely not going to come from every woman out there, but you only need one woman to ruin things for you. Guys get hyper-scrutinized for how they approach women now, sometimes for good reasons, sometimes not. A consequence of that is that they are more careful when dealing with women's "hints." That simply means that women need to get their act together and stop expecting to be approached based on hints alone. Their expectations need to become just as modern as the standard that men are held to. That means having to communicate directly and verbally, as well as opening themselves up to rejection.
Men are not being "dense" when they dont react to hints, even if that sure makes it sound better to some women, I guess. At the same time, there are still many guys who are naive and are easily gaslit by women who are just toying with them into thinking that they are monsters just for taking those hints. Surely you don't consider that to be a good thing? Oh, right, I guess you probably think that this doesn't happen. Well, maybe you will understand once you start dating. Or maybe you've been lucky enough to avoid it. I'm sure many women have also never encountered any bad men. It happens
I have been victimized by such women, but I am not a "victim." (I cant admit to that, since it's apparently such a crime for man to be a victim according to you.) My solution is simply to be direct and not to take any bullshit anymore. It's a mindset that has served me well, even if I had to learn it the hard way. It's helped me filter out women that would only do me harm and it's helped me meet women of high quality. I thoroughly believe that this approach is the only way for things to work well between the genders in the modern age. It holds women to a higher standard, but that's not bad. It's high time that we held each other to the same standards. It's a message that would do a lot of men good.
(Yes, this is a pretty long, off-topic tangent under this chapter, but I simply replied to a person who asked if women do this kind of "teasing" without being romantically interested. I didnt need some inexperienced dimwit coming in and calling me an incel over literal common sense. Whenever I see shit like this, I'm tempted to push back against it, so please excuse this segment if the wall of text scared you.)
You have my respect brother
If you're passionate it doesn't take much effort lol. People write for a living, you know.
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Thats true, that true brother
Was about to post this. My man has fully internalised the correct answer.
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She's really thinking: "And then they fucked" lmao but that's not who she is man, he did say he had a girl of his own.
