Chi.: Chikyuu no Undou ni Tsuite - Vol. 4 Ch. 24

[MangaDex]

 

[Chinpo]

Truth is inherently relative. Knowledge can be rational and true, but often times it is only rational, only true, or neither. We can know things and be illogical in explaining why that is the case. Case in point, Catholicism is a reason behind the Roman empire becoming the Holy Roman Empire and lasted however many more centuries. I'm a philosopher, not a classicist, I'm sure there are weebs who'd be willing to correct my anachronisms.
In this chapter, the bishop represents a genuine truth. Catholic philosophy helped reseal the cracks of a dying nation, and it absolutely was a force for good, however the reasoning behind the knowledge of Catholicism's benefits was flawed. This led to a corruption of ethics and the horrors of inquisitors. This chapter tacitly asks you to question dogma.

 

[AngelHQ]

Truth is inherently relative. Knowledge can be rational and true, but often times it is only rational, only true, or neither. We can know things and be illogical in explaining why that is the case. Case in point, Catholicism is a reason behind the Roman empire becoming the Holy Roman Empire and lasted however many more centuries. I'm a philosopher, not a classicist, I'm sure there are weebs who'd be willing to correct my anachronisms.
In this chapter, the bishop represents a genuine truth. Catholic philosophy helped reseal the cracks of a dying nation, and it absolutely was a force for good, however the reasoning behind the knowledge of Catholicism's benefits was flawed. This led to a corruption of ethics and the horrors of inquisitors. This chapter tacitly asks you to question dogma.

Don't worry about the weebs. I didn't get the "only logical, only true, or neither" part tho. You mean assuming knowledge is flawless by definition right?

What if I define logic as a tool for reasoning, and truth as a tool for demagogy? I would also define knowledge as a tool for helping people... Utilitarist politics right?

 

[AngelHQ]

Wait, I wanted to talk about the style of the discourse from these characters (the bishop and the senior inquisitor).

They're using corporativist speech right? Because I'm pretty sure people from this time were still using propagandist style of speech, wich more transparent nowadays of its crude intentions.
I like it because it's showing the way dogma is conveyed today through the adaptation of middle ages fiction.

 

[Chinpo]

Don't worry about the weebs. I didn't get the "only logical, only true, or neither" part tho. You mean assuming knowledge is flawless by definition right?

What if I define logic as a tool for reasoning, and truth as a tool for demagogy? I would also define knowledge as a tool for helping people... Utilitarist politics right?

I don't think you're wrong to make those definitions for logic and truth, but there's a weird argument I wanna make about knowledge.
Knowledge isn't definitionally true, neither within Kuhnian nor Empiricist frameworks (the angles I'm arguing from.) knowledge, being based in perception and sensation, is fundamentally prone to subjectivity. interpretation of data is where the logic comes in, which are all held in place by paradigms which can shift over time.
Dogma is absolutely key within the narrative at this point, but if we look back at part 1, we can see that this dogmatism is based in logic (albeit invoking god,) and was overcome while invoking god. While one is true and one is false, both ptolemaic and pre-copernican knowledge are knowledge.

 

[Kaiser92]

Inquisition bro is deluded who knew