Choujin Koukousei-tachi wa Isekai demo Yoyuu de Ikinuku you desu! - Vol. 5 Ch. 37 - Crimson Bullet

[Yautja]

This manga can't write a good villain for the life of it.

@TehSDragon
Bang on.

@Aretheus
That's the kind of garbage isekai is prone to. If you read shounen, shoujo or whatever else, they all have their own brand of garbage cliches that follow them around. Isekais are just more plentiful and prone to them as of late.

@Victormg
This manga is the definition of half assed. The people disagreeing with are forgetting that these people are literally super humans and the entire premise of them is they can literally do the impossible. But now all of a sudden they can't do the improbable or this impossible thing? It's total joke being defended by typical fan logic. Consistency, with our world or the written world of the manga is a unicorn.

 

[Victormg]

@Yautja exactly what I was trying to say bro
Early on they seem to be like omnipotent but now author created some problem to try to make them less OP. It's too late at this point.
Either made them OP from the start till the end or don't make them OP at all
Made them ridiculous OP at the beginning and make them *not-so-powerful" by try apply some real life logic is just cheap and lazy writing

 

[talisay999]

power of massive tits

 

[Verrone]

@Victormg @Yautja They are super-human indeed, yes, But in terms or knowledge and ability not power. let alone whats been happening as of previous chapters has been war and over throwing the tyrants. Those situations take scheming and planning and preparation of man power, economic dictatorship, convincing. That's not OP-ness in super human powers and aspect (like charm in games) but superhuman knowledge as stated in the beginning. They still fought their way with their respectable unique KNOWLEDGE and their ABILITY to use it in order to over come the problem.

In regards to the healing of the body, another person said, using the tools that is already in ones possession is different than what is not.
She had the tools to heal that mans PHYSICAL BODY. She does not have the tools and resources to CURE an ILLNESS that she was not PREPARED for.
The government child had prowess and the ability to make convincing commands and deals with whom he dealt with.
The magic child was able to do PHYSICAL magic tricks( which means healing without having actual magic is off the table)
Ninja child is a ninja
Samurai child is strong
Tech child (I believe she was a experiment but I don't remember but) is a prodigy in technology
And as the big problem in your arguments
Doctor child is proficient in medicine, operation, and medicine history, not healing magic.

What I am getting from your argument is that you believe the doctor child is to be able to perform some sort or spell or go into a cheat box and acquire anything she needs from it but that is not the case. So no, they were never omnipotent and doctor child still needs to acquire the correct materials to be able to cure the illness that is likely to be new in this world and she is introducing it in the form of medication that was from early times in their own world. In which case still provides the strength of the authors story.

Also they can not just do anything they like too far outside of reason, they're not invincible alone, that's why they work TOGETHER to fix the situation.

 

[Victormg]

@Verrone
Yet no one explain to me how she can fix a guy with stomach wound, disemboweled with exposed intestines nonetheless in a matter of MINUTES.
Is that something that can achieve irl?
And dont tell me about magic and shit. She use no magic in that scene, just pure surgery operation. Yet his stomach close like it had never opened in the first place, no stitches, nothing. If that's isnt deus ex machina, idk what is

 

[Verrone]

@Victormg which chapter are you referring to and I will see if I can or cannot explain

For all I know, In regards to previous inflicted wounds being given proof of, it could be a slip commonly found in all manga, manwha's, and what not, of the author merely forgetting details of background charcters but I will be on standby till I know what exactly you're referring to.

 

[Yautja]

@Verrone
You're literally the problem I was referring to. You cannot have one brand of impossible be acceptable and not another. You either gotta be consistent with our world, or the world you made. You don't get to pick and choose. You're just stringing together a bunch of words to make generic cop out sentences that are mostly nonsensical and seem more like an attempt to confuse than anything else.

 

[Verrone]

@Victormg Ah yes I looked at your previous comments and found ch. 12. Sorry for not noticing earlier.

iIn terms with the disembowelment (going by the images), there was organs exiting three holes caused by the claws of the king correct? meaning the skin is merely separated but not lost and there was fixable means if the organ itself was damaged. Clamps were used to place the organs back into place, and while she was at it, cleared the cancerous bacteria and entities the resided in his stomach (for the gastric cancer). If you are to look closely at the picture of the grandpa on the ground, you will see three distinctive lines in which are likely to be the stitch lines.

In case you may think i'm bullshitting. I highly doubt she would use clamps and a needle and not stitch the wounds when she said she was happy she brought the tools with her.

Now then, I SUPPOSE , the author OR/AND artist did a confusing job in showing the process of surgery because they were focusing on establishing the background of the doctor child and the ability of her speed and capability( in which case would answer the matter of minutes question) in those same panels.

And yes, it is possible to save a persons life with disemboweled organs if an emergency time frame is achieved. Unfortunately, humans in our world either deem situations as those a lost cause at the moment of the event or time has ran out. Injured humans and life forms have low sustainability levels when any form of pain is involved. They will tend to give up, more than not of course, to the release of body tension( like if you stubbed your toe and you hit the floor to hold it) and their life.

@Yautja I am indeed sorry for my first comment without looking over the chapter of question. I admit that was my mistake. I am also sorry if my words confuse you, for they make straight sense to me but I know not to others often irl. I believed and got from both of you two's argument that you believed that the children were suppose to be godly, in a sense. I was also stating what I've seen from recent previous chapters and this chapter in my first comment. In my second, I was stating what could've been a mishap, in which, as i said, is common author/artist slip ups.

 

[Victormg]

@Verrone
You don't read all of my comments do you?
I marked my words clearly in which chapter i was referring to in one of the previous reply that the event took place in chapter 12.

Just look at this. Are you telling me that this wound can be surgery operated for a ultra short amount of time isnt OP?
Pulling that stunt out of nowhere back then but why apply logic now in this chapter? I would be less surprised that she can created a panacea and give to to the kid and cure his illness conpletely. But nooooo, you gotta apply some sudden real life medicine to make your plot sounds smart, but to me it sounds retarded.

You cant suddenly change the rule of your manga like that. That's why I'm mad.

When the plot is silly and make no sense. I can just throw my brain away and enjoy the silliness and the art but suddenly apply real life logic to make it sounds smart I feel betrayed. Havent got betrayed this hard since arefureta novel

 

[Yautja]

@Verrone
They are godly. The things they can do, specifically the technology and medical aspects, are literally impossible. Your words aren't confusing, I said your words seem like they are meant to confuse and do not make a coherent argument, and certainly not against the complaints levied against the manga. I understand what you were trying to say, and I also understand that it's nonsensical, irrelevant or made to deceive.

 

[Verrone]

@Yautja then if they are godly, are you suggesting in this moment of the disease, that the doctor child is supposed to have a cure already prepared and ready in order to maintain that godly aspect? Or magician child to be able to dull the pain as part of an act?

I would understand if you meant that her speed and quick witts were godly but you are talking about why in that instant she wasnt able to create a cure correct dispite already laying out the plans to make and get the medicine right? please explain the exact problem you are dealing with with examples please

What exactly are you and @Victormg expecting would happen in this situation in order for them to maintain the OPness you two see?

Please give me an example of how the author should have written this story and how the artist should have portrayed it in your belief.

Also Yautja, do you mean the story is "nonsensical, irrelevant and made to deceive" or my argument?
If my argument, how so?

I do not mean to be rude. I only want to understand what you find wrong and what should be fixed and how in your eyes.

 

[Yautja]

@Verrone
Why not? Already had a boatload of other magical "Oh I already had that thing we needed" moments. What I'm suggesting is the manga has already lost consistency and is sustaining itself on contrivances. It's picking and choosing what happens when not because it's good writing, logical, or so on, but whatever adds the most drama and extends the life of the series.

Both. Your entire first paragraph of your first response of contradictory, verbose and untrue. Your description of the characters is inaccurate and downplays the ridiculous and unobtainable level of skill, talent and knowledge these characters posses. You're picking and choosing when the story has to be logically consistent and what it has to be consistent with. In general you fail to see the inconsistency of both the story and your comments.

You're polite which is nice and asking for clarity which is fantastic, but I don't think you're actually looking to understand the complaints or obvious inconsistencies of this story instead of convert people to your beliefs in regards to the series. This is a waste of everyone's time.

 

[Verrone]

@Yautja Very well.

Unfortunately I am one that learns with examples being pointed out. Since you do not wish to give me more examples of what inconsistencies there are or what should have been for this chapter, we shall end this conversation. I do thank you for your time.

 

[Esper]

Sulfa drugs in two manga I'm reading at the same time, Dr Stone and this one. What a coincidence.