Clippy

[TGN]

So some big youtuber seems to want to change the state of the tech industry through people changing their profile pictures to that of Clippy. What are everyone's thoughts on this; will this movement be effective?



Personally, I don't think it'll do much. And a perfect case study is Stop Killing Games and the games industry as a whole.

For years, people have been harping on the ever declining state of games. Yet, everyone fell into line. The Ubisoft CEO made that infamous statement, and for all the outrage the industry remained on its course. It took one Ross Scott, with a channel less than 1/5 the size of Louis', to actually push for a legal movement against the industry to finally ruffle their feathers.

Now, I'm not saying the Clippy thing is a bad idea. But Louis is wanting to "win the cultural battle" when the cultural battle has already been won. Almost everyone unanimously agrees the tech industry's practices are bad -- only the most corporate bootlickers disagree. Despite that, big tech cannot care less and will continue to force themselves deeper and deeper down our throats.

Uniting the Internet around a common cause it cool, but someone needs to take that energy and channel it into something corporate bigwigs can't ignore. But Louis explicitly said he does not hope to win the legal battle. And considering how, despite massive creators like Charlie expressing their deep backing of Stop Killing Games, no one else dared step up on the mantle against an industry whose actions are already blatantly illegal, I don't see anyone bringing the fight to the tech giants. When a corporate CEO logs into Slack and sees 10k Clippys looking back at him, he will laugh. Or maybe create a Clippy that steals your data thinking everyone wanted that. Your average consumer doesn't care enough.

 

[NotGary]

"action" trought vague gesturing such as changing your pfp or adding an emoji is extreme eunich behavior.
if you want to actually change something, you eitheir get the state to do it (voting in minor cases, terrorism in actually important cases) or you make the competition do it and reward them for it when it comes to an industry problem.
but I'll be keeping an eye out on clippy pfp in the future.

 

[Manko-sensei]

So... this whole thread is about ranting? I know a black cat makes everything sell well, and this strategy is basically self-promo. As for Stop Killing Games initiative, it got enough votes to be proposed someday to be discussed in the European Parliament, right? I don't see room to discuss, if things move well then maybe for the 2030 we have a concrete law for the European Union, as for the rest of the world they better hurry. Pirate Party was founded precisely to avoid this kind of practices and was widely ignored, the fact that we're at the present situation is because the cultural war was lost and in this decade when the new practices dominate the world is when more people realise of the fact. These symbolic Internet wars have been trending for a while, but unlike Anonymous with V of Vendetta mask the rest are just to inflate someone ego or subscribers/views.
In conclusion, the only Clippy people remember is the hentai parodic one.

 

[Doedoel]

I mean, I get the meaning behind the movement but this cat PFP is just too good, you feel me?

 

[Angry_Panda]

1. Anyone who was around in the late 90's when Clippy appeared knows that he was annoying as fuck and no one liked him. Why would you choose that as your standard to rally around?

2. Late 90's Microsoft was no exemplar of good behavior. This does not get nearly enough call-out in his video. It's worth remembering that the reason MS got to where they were by 2000 or so is because they were impossibly anti-competitive. Consider Netscape Navigator and WordPerfect (and to some extent Lotus 1-2-3 prior to that) - all better products that got either got steamrolled by MS bundling their alternative into Windows, or got hosed when MS didn't bother to share the complete developer kit for a port (tee-hee!). It isn't that Clippy just wanted to help, it's that there was no way for MS to do what's being done today (software as perpetual 'subscriptions' rather than purchases, scraping customer data from everywhere, etc.) since the infrastructure wouldn't have supported it and the user base wouldn't have tolerated it. IF THEY COULD HAVE, THEY WOULD HAVE, and Clippy would have been reading that letter you were writing and sending information about you and the recipient back to MS.

3. Changing your avatar does literally nothing that matters to anyone in the C-Suite. Instead, stop giving them your money and your market share as much as possible, and start using alternate software (GIMP instead of Photoshop, Open Office instead of MS Office, alternate browsers, etc.) and protections (VPNs, ad-blockers, etc.). Yes, it makes your life harder, but changing an avatar will not, in any way, cause the COO of some Fortune 500 company to lose any sleep at all - a 10% drop in revenues and market share will.

I'd suggest a better symbol for this slactivist crusade would be either {} or Ø, to represent the ideal amount of data corporations would get.

/

 

[Manko-sensei]

1. Anyone who was around in the late 90's when Clippy appeared knows that he was annoying as fuck and no one liked him. Why would you choose that as your standard to rally around?

2. Late 90's Microsoft was no exemplar of good behavior. This does not get nearly enough call-out in his video. It's worth remembering that the reason MS got to where they were by 2000 or so is because they were impossibly anti-competitive. Consider Netscape Navigator and WordPerfect (and to some extent Lotus 1-2-3 prior to that) - all better products that got either got steamrolled by MS bundling their alternative into Windows, or got hosed when MS didn't bother to share the complete developer kit for a port (tee-hee!). It isn't that Clippy just wanted to help, it's that there was no way for MS to do what's being done today (software as perpetual 'subscriptions' rather than purchases, scraping customer data from everywhere, etc.) since the infrastructure wouldn't have supported it and the user base wouldn't have tolerated it. IF THEY COULD HAVE, THEY WOULD HAVE, and Clippy would have been reading that letter you were writing and sending information about you and the recipient back to MS.

3. Changing your avatar does literally nothing that matters to anyone in the C-Suite. Instead, stop giving them your money and your market share as much as possible, and start using alternate software (GIMP instead of Photoshop, Open Office instead of MS Office, alternate browsers, etc.) and protections (VPNs, ad-blockers, etc.). Yes, it makes your life harder, but changing an avatar will not, in any way, cause the COO of some Fortune 500 company to lose any sleep at all - a 10% drop in revenues and market share will.

I'd suggest a better symbol for this slactivist crusade would be either {} or Ø, to represent the ideal amount of data corporations would get.

/

I just wanted to remark how annoying Clippy was, even if I got it neutralised in my PC when I had to use one elsewhere it was simply a pain.

 

[OldVice]

It kind of feels like the point he was trying to make is how we've gone from "well intentioned, but annoying", to openly malicious and unavoidable, but I could be wrong.

I'll be more subtle about sneaking in a Clippy pfp where I can, just to see the reactions I can get. I also wonder if I'll see anyone at work using Clippy in our company chat when I get back next week.

I almost want to put my old ass computer back together and see what kind of ridiculous things I can say to Clippy and what kind of response I'll get.

 

[Angry_Panda]

I'll be more subtle about sneaking in a Clippy pfp where I can

Medical Mechanica does not approve.

 

[pandascepter]

1. Anyone who was around in the late 90's when Clippy appeared knows that he was annoying as fuck and no one liked him. Why would you choose that as your standard to rally around?

2. Late 90's Microsoft was no exemplar of good behavior. This does not get nearly enough call-out in his video. It's worth remembering that the reason MS got to where they were by 2000 or so is because they were impossibly anti-competitive. Consider Netscape Navigator and WordPerfect (and to some extent Lotus 1-2-3 prior to that) - all better products that got either got steamrolled by MS bundling their alternative into Windows, or got hosed when MS didn't bother to share the complete developer kit for a port (tee-hee!). It isn't that Clippy just wanted to help, it's that there was no way for MS to do what's being done today (software as perpetual 'subscriptions' rather than purchases, scraping customer data from everywhere, etc.) since the infrastructure wouldn't have supported it and the user base wouldn't have tolerated it. IF THEY COULD HAVE, THEY WOULD HAVE, and Clippy would have been reading that letter you were writing and sending information about you and the recipient back to MS.

3. Changing your avatar does literally nothing that matters to anyone in the C-Suite. Instead, stop giving them your money and your market share as much as possible, and start using alternate software (GIMP instead of Photoshop, Open Office instead of MS Office, alternate browsers, etc.) and protections (VPNs, ad-blockers, etc.). Yes, it makes your life harder, but changing an avatar will not, in any way, cause the COO of some Fortune 500 company to lose any sleep at all - a 10% drop in revenues and market share will.

I'd suggest a better symbol for this slactivist crusade would be either {} or Ø, to represent the ideal amount of data corporations would get.

/

since then they know, simpler is better.

 

[OldVice]

Medical Mechanica does not approve.

Dammit, if I drop the opacity any lower it's just not visible.

 

[jecroisenlasuperioritedubel]

 

[Ivegotnolife]

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[Madologist]

So some big youtuber seems to want to change the state of the tech industry through people changing their profile pictures to that of Clippy. What are everyone's thoughts on this; will this movement be effective?



Personally, I don't think it'll do much. And a perfect case study is Stop Killing Games and the games industry as a whole.

For years, people have been harping on the ever declining state of games. Yet, everyone fell into line. The Ubisoft CEO made that infamous statement, and for all the outrage the industry remained on its course. It took one Ross Scott, with a channel less than 1/5 the size of Louis', to actually push for a legal movement against the industry to finally ruffle their feathers.

Now, I'm not saying the Clippy thing is a bad idea. But Louis is wanting to "win the cultural battle" when the cultural battle has already been won. Almost everyone unanimously agrees the tech industry's practices are bad -- only the most corporate bootlickers disagree. Despite that, big tech cannot care less and will continue to force themselves deeper and deeper down our throats.

Uniting the Internet around a common cause it cool, but someone needs to take that energy and channel it into something corporate bigwigs can't ignore. But Louis explicitly said he does not hope to win the legal battle. And considering how, despite massive creators like Charlie expressing their deep backing of Stop Killing Games, no one else dared step up on the mantle against an industry whose actions are already blatantly illegal, I don't see anyone bringing the fight to the tech giants. When a corporate CEO logs into Slack and sees 10k Clippys looking back at him, he will laugh. Or maybe create a Clippy that steals your data thinking everyone wanted that. Your average consumer doesn't care enough.

I agree with that one betting guy, who bets against anything and everything that is happening in the world.
Nothing will happen.
The clippy protest will result in nothing.
The big tyrannical moves (UK not withstanding, our brave lads and lasses over there) will falter.
Absolutely nothing will happen and the depressing status quo of slow decay will continue.

 

[Madologist]

when the cultural battle has already been won.

How so?
Who are the big whigs still in charge of entertainment?
Who are the big whigs with all the money still pushing the issues?
Who are the countless bureaucrats actually running the nations still enforcing the issue?
Who are the cops still enforcing the rules?
Who are the NGOs still arranging or funding it all?
Who are the banks and payment processors still moving the money?

The enemy's wrath will be terrible, his retribution swift (it already happened). The battle for hope is over, the battle for Western world is about to begin.

 

[TGN]

How so?
Who are the big whigs still in charge of entertainment?
Who are the big whigs with all the money still pushing the issues?
Who are the countless bureaucrats actually running the nations still enforcing the issue?
Who are the cops still enforcing the rules?
Who are the NGOs still arranging or funding it all?
Who are the banks and payment processors still moving the money?

That's the legal battle.

The enemy's wrath will be terrible, his retribution swift (it already happened). The battle for hope is over, the battle for Western world is about to begin.

I'm not touching that.

 

[Madologist]

That's the legal battle.

I'm not touching that.

Today in class

White is White

Black is Black

Green is Green

Brown is Brown

How brave!

Dude, it overall is just LotR reference.

 

[MawMaw]

Just another thing to show that internet protest can boil down to doing the bare minimum while patting yourself on the back
Nobody who watch that video would know what those pfp supposed to means and they don't give a shit enough to ask
The corpo they're fighting is even more unbothered

 

[jecroisenlasuperioritedubel]