D Genesis: Dungeon ga Dekite 3-nen - Ch. 48

[CypherHoof]

Wait, wouldn't this mean that he could wipe out the enemies at the entrance to the mansion?

Probably, although it would make adjusting his kill count awkward. There is also the possibility he would damage the mansion itself, and/or its unique drop, the "book of wanderers"

He wasn't at max before?

not even close.
He hasn't spent all his SP even now; he has about half left.
We don't know what "Max" is, if there is one.

 

[Tamed]

Probably, although it would make adjusting his kill count awkward. There is also the possibility he would damage the mansion itself, and/or its unique drop, the "book of wanderers"

not even close.
He hasn't spent all his SP even now; he has about half left.
We don't know what "Max" is, if there is one.

That's irresponsible for him to do. This is the second time his decision almost killed Miyoshi. He's lucky that the god was kind enough to let him add points. How convenient.

 

[CypherHoof]

That's irresponsible for him to do. This is the second time his decision almost killed Miyoshi. He's lucky that the god was kind enough to let him add points. How convenient.

Debatable.

Miyoshi was dumb enough to attack a God and pull aggro when Kei could have (and should have) taken point.

The consequences of that are on her.

Further, lets say he pulled a Miyoshi and decided to put all his available points into some other stat (and, say, raised defense, like another anime character) rather than the AGI and STR he needed here. He would have then been unable to raise those two stats in time to counter Enkai because he lacked the SP pool to do so.

Or some other scenario, like he put 300 each in STR and AGI in advance, but needed INT or VIT to survive another non-enkai boss?

Committing ALL his points to some build in the hope that meets the requirements for some speculative future boss is a bad move. He had 100 per slot, for all six slots - the highest stats of any adventurer living, including the team that beat the 31 floor Evans dungeon.

Holding onto the remaining points so he can speed-deploy them if needed (and with an AGI of 100, he can click buttons on a menu REAL fast) gives him more flexibility than committing to some build based on speculation of what MIGHT attack him in future.

 

[Tamed]

Debatable.

Miyoshi was dumb enough to attack a God and pull aggro when Kei could have (and should have) taken point.

The consequences of that are on her.

Further, lets say he pulled a Miyoshi and decided to put all his available points into some other stat (and, say, raised defense, like another anime character) rather than the AGI and STR he needed here. He would have then been unable to raise those two stats in time to counter Enkai because he lacked the SP pool to do so.

Or some other scenario, like he put 300 each in STR and AGI in advance, but needed INT or VIT to survive another non-enkai boss?

Committing ALL his points to some build in the hope that meets the requirements for some speculative future boss is a bad move. He had 100 per slot, for all six slots - the highest stats of any adventurer living, including the team that beat the 31 floor Evans dungeon.

Holding onto the remaining points so he can speed-deploy them if needed (and with an AGI of 100, he can click buttons on a menu REAL fast) gives him more flexibility than committing to some build based on speculation of what MIGHT attack him in future.

First off, don't turn me into a strawman, that's not what I'm on about. I thought he had all stats to max/have it distributed evenly that he has no sp to allocate.

Second, this tactic you're saying is terrible. It's counting all future foes to be slower than 100 agi. This just seem even more convenient for the mc and it makes him very boring in fights.

 

[CypherHoof]

First off, don't turn me into a strawman, that's not what I'm on about. I thought he had all stats to max/have it distributed evenly that he has no sp to allocate.

Second, this tactic you're saying is terrible. It's counting all future foes to be slower than 100 agi. This just seem even more convenient for the mc and it makes him very boring in fights.

As far as we know, nothing previously encountered couldn't be beaten with stats half that - case in point, Team Simon has stats around 50 at most, and TS completely defeated Evans dungeon at that stat level.

It is good strategy (in military terms) to allocate a reasonable force to each point that exceeds an expected attack, then hold a central reserve to reenforce where needed once an attack begins. And that is in a situation where you CAN deallocate those reserve troops if it turns out to be a feint.

Its also not impossible that he could have beaten Enkai at 100/flat - he could barely track Enkai's attacks though, so he was probably a bit lacking. Enkai is OP by any reasonable measure for the 18th floor, so is a black swan event.

20/20 hindsight could suggest that had Kei allocated 200/flat, that would have been good enough for Enkai, but he had no way to know that until he encountered Enkai - and had Enkai needed unbalanced stats in a different pattern, that might have left him lacking enough free SP to boost those stats at need. The benefit of 20/20 hindsight is that the actions that seem "reasonable" in retrospect were just one of a thousand options without that benefit.
So in short - there was no reason to assume (in advance) he would need more than 100/flat, so he prioritized flexibility and his humanity (as he struggled to get used to running at 100/flat) over using up all SP as fast as possible, and in the actual event, 100 was good enough for him to adjust to the needed stats AND still have a reserve in case he needed more. Allocating 100/flat didn't mean he couldn't go to 200/flat if he needed to - it just meant he could go to 300 or even 400 for selected stats if he needed to, which would be an option he would lose if he had gone to 200/flat in advance.

 

[Tamed]

As far as we know, nothing previously encountered couldn't be beaten with stats half that - case in point, Team Simon has stats around 50 at most, and TS completely defeated Evans dungeon at that stat level.

It is good strategy (in military terms) to allocate a reasonable force to each point that exceeds an expected attack, then hold a central reserve to reenforce where needed once an attack begins. And that is in a situation where you CAN deallocate those reserve troops if it turns out to be a feint.

Its also not impossible that he could have beaten Enkai at 100/flat - he could barely track Enkai's attacks though, so he was probably a bit lacking. Enkai is OP by any reasonable measure for the 18th floor, so is a black swan event.

20/20 hindsight could suggest that had Kei allocated 200/flat, that would have been good enough for Enkai, but he had no way to know that until he encountered Enkai - and had Enkai needed unbalanced stats in a different pattern, that might have left him lacking enough free SP to boost those stats at need. The benefit of 20/20 hindsight is that the actions that seem "reasonable" in retrospect were just one of a thousand options without that benefit.
So in short - there was no reason to assume (in advance) he would need more than 100/flat, so he prioritized flexibility and his humanity (as he struggled to get used to running at 100/flat) over using up all SP as fast as possible, and in the actual event, 100 was good enough for him to adjust to the needed stats AND still have a reserve in case he needed more. Allocating 100/flat didn't mean he couldn't go to 200/flat if he needed to - it just meant he could go to 300 or even 400 for selected stats if he needed to, which would be an option he would lose if he had gone to 200/flat in advance.

You literally did the boring plot. How's it feel stat-stomping Enkai?

 

[CypherHoof]

For those following the LN, Vol. 9 part 1 just dropped on JNovel

and has a back-reference to the Manga version