Danshi Kokoseidakedo Gyaru ni TS Shimashita - Ch. 6.2

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I hope they find hapiness whether they go back to being male or not. The end goal remaining going back to male feels a bit weird the longer they stay female. They get comfortable with their body just to be switched back at the end has no main purpose to the story.

Just being able to talk to girls better isn't a reason to put the character through this scenario. Unless it's just supposed to be a generic haha funny manga with no real development for the characters gender identity. That would be kinda boring.

Either way it is an entertaining read.
It is worth remembering it WAS their idea to begin with, idly wishing they were born a girl where nobody could hear. True it was because he wished to not be so lonely, but no matter how you slice it becoming a girl was his idea even before it was the gyaru goddess'.

TBH this is what's so awful about being indoctrinated to perform traditional gender roles. Even after getting his own wish, he's fixated on undoing what was done because of a bunch of stereotypical "guy goal" reasons. -- i.e. get a career, get married, stuff he's "supposed" to want or be doing because those goals were forced on him before he was at an age to critically think about them. Regardless of your gender identity it's legitimately terrible that society does this to us.
I would say the same thing if the story was entirely gender flipped, too. If this was a girl who (because of her own wish) became a flashy guy. If this chapter was her trying out the male equipment in the bath followed by muttering mantras about how she'll get back to normal and be a tradwife and mother someday. It would still suck and I'd be praying for the MC to follow their heart instead of following a script.

In any case I hope the very liberated nature of their new gyaru friends also helps liberate him regardless of who he wants to be.
 
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Hey single guys, don't believe anything this manga tells you about female bodies. Human females have, on average, the same number of the same hair follicles as human males. Your scalp, face, underarm, body, crotch all have exactly the same follicles to start with. What changes is the hormonal programming from nearby tissues, which is why your eyelid hair is darker and much slower growing than your head hair. The eyelids asked for it so your eyelashes don't get in the eyes or block your vision. And women's bodies, not having nearly as much testosterone, signal for lighter, thinner, body and face hair on average.

Anyhow, even gyaru have body and facial fuzz, like any other woman, unless they remove it. Which is why some women spend so much effort on shavers and depilatories (and certain dudes really could stand to). Or maybe the Gyaru God gave him a Perfect Gyaru Body with no hair where you don't want it. Which is fine, just don't think that's normal on the off chance... You know.
 
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first wet dream at the age of 16 after being turned into woman

What did author mean by this

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I guess it's because I've not read author's other work besides gal gohan, somehow I was caught surprised how "explicit" this was compared to that.
Not that I'm complaining
 
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It is worth remembering it WAS their idea to begin with, idly wishing they were born a girl where nobody could hear. True it was because he wished to not be so lonely, but no matter how you slice it becoming a girl was his idea even before it was the gyaru goddess'.

TBH this is what's so awful about being indoctrinated to perform traditional gender roles. Even after getting his own wish, he's fixated on undoing what was done because of a bunch of stereotypical "guy goal" reasons. -- i.e. get a career, get married, stuff he's "supposed" to want or be doing because those goals were forced on him before he was at an age to critically think about them. Regardless of your gender identity it's legitimately terrible that society does this to us.
I would say the same thing if the story was entirely gender flipped, too. If this was a girl who (because of her own wish) became a flashy guy. If this chapter was her trying out the male equipment in the bath followed by muttering mantras about how she'll get back to normal and be a tradwife and mother someday. It would still suck and I'd be praying for the MC to follow their heart instead of following a script.

In any case I hope the very liberated nature of their new gyaru friends also helps liberate him regardless of who he wants to be.
So well said <3

I really want to see them find inner peace with regards to their gender identity by the end. Hopefully with love and support from their friends and family. It would make this goofy slice of life manga have a solid message ^_^
 
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Gyaru goddess gave them the ideal Gyaru body, so it is probably naturally hairless everywhere else besides the headhair.
For some reason I always imagined a landing strip as the normal Gyaru affair, but in retrospect with modern sensibilities it could only be hairless.
 
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Very carefully. Seriously, you dig down through the hair layers to the scalp and massage there where all the dirt/dandruff actually is and focus on using the pads of your fingertips and the round bases of your palms under the thumbs near the wrist to create friction.
The other thing I just realized: that's what a shampoo brush is for. Always seemed like a pointless accessory to me until now.
 
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His first erotic dream ever? And it had to be while he's in the body of a woman lmao
 
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It is worth remembering it WAS their idea to begin with, idly wishing they were born a girl where nobody could hear. True it was because he wished to not be so lonely, but no matter how you slice it becoming a girl was his idea even before it was the gyaru goddess'.

TBH this is what's so awful about being indoctrinated to perform traditional gender roles. Even after getting his own wish, he's fixated on undoing what was done because of a bunch of stereotypical "guy goal" reasons. -- i.e. get a career, get married, stuff he's "supposed" to want or be doing because those goals were forced on him before he was at an age to critically think about them. Regardless of your gender identity it's legitimately terrible that society does this to us.
I would say the same thing if the story was entirely gender flipped, too. If this was a girl who (because of her own wish) became a flashy guy. If this chapter was her trying out the male equipment in the bath followed by muttering mantras about how she'll get back to normal and be a tradwife and mother someday. It would still suck and I'd be praying for the MC to follow their heart instead of following a script.

In any case I hope the very liberated nature of their new gyaru friends also helps liberate him regardless of who he wants to be.
It's not a matter of placing the blame on societal indoctrination with regards to gender roles, but the trauma of having been violated by a foreign agent (deity, virus, human) and having to face that violation everyday in the mirror. If rape victims feel this IRL, just imagine how much more someone who was forcefully gender swapped would feel IRL.

What gets me is that the author has chosen to follow the tired old trope of forced sex change with comedy and slice of life (as sweets to the bitter pill of change), that a whole bunch of other mangas have done in the past. Why not do something original and have the MC choose of his own free will to be gender swapped? Is the author so lacking in imagination that she's unable to create a gender swapped story around it? Here's a premise. The MC's mom is dying of an incurable illness and the gyaru god appears to the MC and tells him that she can save her but it would require the price of being gender swapped into a gyaru permanently. Any thoughts?
 
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It's not a matter of placing the blame on societal indoctrination with regards to gender roles, but the trauma of having been violated by a foreign agent (deity, virus, human) and having to face that violation everyday in the mirror. If rape victims feel this IRL, just imagine how much more someone who was forcefully gender swapped would feel IRL.

What gets me is that the author has chosen to follow the tired old trope of forced sex change with comedy and slice of life (as sweets to the bitter pill of change), that a whole bunch of other mangas have done in the past. Why not do something original and have the MC choose of his own free will to be gender swapped? Is the author so lacking in imagination that she's unable to create a gender swapped story around it? Here's a premise. The MC's mom is dying of an incurable illness and the gyaru god appears to the MC and tells him that she can save her but it would require the price of being gender swapped into a gyaru permanently. Any thoughts?
Honestly, I read genderswap with certain assumptions. Wearing certain goggles you could say. One that it isn't realistic to start with, it doesn't ruin my enjoyment by not being so. Two is that usually the main character is what the trans community would call an "egg" -- i.e. they were always ideal to operate in the gender they've been swapped to and the main conflict has more to do with them coming to realize that. Because, yeah, realistically at best it'd play out like it does in "Ore ga Watashi ni Naru made" an at worst it'd play out like the webcomic "Misfile". I'm not sure I'd make the rape comparison though, I think that's kind of tone deaf unless you yourself are a survivor. I can't claim to know what rape is like, though body dysmorphia (esp. borne of an unwanted puberty) does indeed feel like an ongoing violation.

As to your criticism of the manga itself, I don't see anything I disagree with. It doesn't bother me that it isn't original, but you're absolutely right that the buffet has so many more meals to try and TS manga writers seem to always go straight for the spaghetti aglio e olio instead of something more interesting. I would be enjoying this story a lot more if the main character DID consciously seem to want to be a gyaru, but resists enjoying it because it's "wrong". I'd also like it if their secret gets out early and they get invited properly into that world instead of going undercover as it were. My favorite TSF works involve someone becoming their best selves.
Anyways, if you have great ideas that nobody is doing I think you should get out there and eat the dinner of all the other genderswap writers. It's a field that's simultaneously filled with a lot of competition that aren't being very competitive right now.
 
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Honestly, I read genderswap with certain assumptions. Wearing certain goggles you could say. One that it isn't realistic to start with, it doesn't ruin my enjoyment by not being so. Two is that usually the main character is what the trans community would call an "egg" -- i.e. they were always ideal to operate in the gender they've been swapped to and the main conflict has more to do with them coming to realize that. Because, yeah, realistically at best it'd play out like it does in "Ore ga Watashi ni Naru made" an at worst it'd play out like the webcomic "Misfile". I'm not sure I'd make the rape comparison though, I think that's kind of tone deaf unless you yourself are a survivor. I can't claim to know what rape is like, though body dysmorphia (esp. borne of an unwanted puberty) does indeed feel like an ongoing violation.

As to your criticism of the manga itself, I don't see anything I disagree with. It doesn't bother me that it isn't original, but you're absolutely right that the buffet has so many more meals to try and TS manga writers seem to always go straight for the spaghetti aglio e olio instead of something more interesting. I would be enjoying this story a lot more if the main character DID consciously seem to want to be a gyaru, but resists enjoying it because it's "wrong". I'd also like it if their secret gets out early and they get invited properly into that world instead of going undercover as it were. My favorite TSF works involve someone becoming their best selves.
Anyways, if you have great ideas that nobody is doing I think you should get out there and eat the dinner of all the other genderswap writers. It's a field that's simultaneously filled with a lot of competition that aren't being very competitive right now.
I am a fan of a philosophy called stoicism. That said, the only one character in this manga that has piqued my interests, is the MC's mom. Her words to the MC about how fretting about what happened wouldn't change a thing and to go with the flow and enjoy the experience, may sound unsympathetic and uncaring towards MC's "plight", but they do hold great truths. IRL, almost everybody, experiences detours from the path they were on. Some major and some minor, and like it or not, many of them are beyond our control. If the MC choses to follow her good advice, she's less likely to suffer painful lessons from the school of hard knocks (refusing to wear a bra during PE class). I hope that the MC's mom shows up more in the manga than she has so far.

You may, or may not, be interested in another gender swap manga titled "Watashitachi wa Moto Joshi desu" a female to male story. There is almost no comedy in it and it deals with the MC struggling with her experiences with her gender change (a TS syndrome cliche type) and the people in her life like friends and family who become aware of her situation. It is not as brutal as "Transjitter: Ibitsu na Karada" (it got dropped after six chapters) but it's more "realistic" in its portrayal of a young cis woman turned young trans man. And lastly, there is a gender swap manhua titled "The Blood Princes And The Knight" which deals with vampires, elfs and magic, which may or may not be your cup of tea but still entertaining.
 

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