Devil May Cry 5 – Visions of V – - Vol. 3 Ch. 24
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that FEEL when no griffon to sit on my face
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So this is why Vergil ends up becoming such a bro, V's revelation of how the fears and weakness of being human and alone is what drives Dante so much to become stronger than any demon and consequently Vergil who strove to be a demon.
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This manga is doing such an amazing job at rounding out V(ergil)'s character. I'm not one to want anime adaptations as I prefer manga, but a Vergil series would do wonders.
Also, seeing V's familiars doing SoL stuff is so sad knowing that they'll commit suicide by cop at Dante's hands to free Vergil from his nightmares.
Also, seeing V's familiars doing SoL stuff is so sad knowing that they'll commit suicide by cop at Dante's hands to free Vergil from his nightmares.
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Shadow plonking his chin on the fountain edge was probably the cutest things I've seen in a long time. Reminds me of my cat.
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@parodyres Vergil wasn't weaker than Dante at the end of DMC5, they're completely equal now.
@Darklight99 It's still a little iffy on that front. Considering at the end, even if it's a friendly spar, Dante is up one. But in my opinion, Dante is still the stronger one since he got all his power-ups legitimately, while Vergil didn't.
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@parodyres How is Dante absorbing the Sparda using Rebellion more legitimate than Vergil eating the Qliphoth fruit? Not to mention that legitimacy doesn't dictate their strengths anyways.
1.) Dante lost to Urizen at the start
2.) Dante beats Urizen after absorbing Sparda
3.) Vergil beats Dante after Urizen eats the Qliphoth fruit and V fuses together with Urizen again because Dante is tired after fighting Urizen.
4.) Vergil and Dante are equal and their fight gets interrupted by Nero.
1.) Dante lost to Urizen at the start
2.) Dante beats Urizen after absorbing Sparda
3.) Vergil beats Dante after Urizen eats the Qliphoth fruit and V fuses together with Urizen again because Dante is tired after fighting Urizen.
4.) Vergil and Dante are equal and their fight gets interrupted by Nero.
@Darklight99 You know, as I was playing through the games, I had this thought that Vergil has never fought Dante on proper grounds. In every game, Dante loses the first fight. But then we need to remember that he has also fought through a bunch of enemies before confronting him. Dante is never fresh before the first fight. Meanwhile, Vergil is always sitting in a location waiting for Dante. Vergil wins by advantage. Thus, cheating.
Going further, the second fight is a draw. But every time, it's because something interrupts the fight. The fight looks even, but then we have to remember again, Vergil keeps sitting at whatever location he is while Dante has to fight his way to him. So same situation as the first, but Dante got more powerful to make any kind of fatigue he's gotten a non-issue and made it a 'draw'.
Then finally, the final fight which leads to Dante's win. Same verse as the first, but Dante has gotten more powerful again. This time he wins, despite still needing to fight through enemy lines. Showing that he's the stronger one in the end.
Basically, Vergil is always fighting at an advantage of being in his best condition while Dante is always fighting at an advantage of being in his less than best condition. Even in 5, Urizen has the advantage of always being plugged into the Qliphoth, which allows him to recover while he waits for the fruit to ripen. So he's cheating in one way or another.
This stands out the most in the final fight of the third game. Both brothers had just finished fighting Arkam. They're both exhausted, meaning they're on even ground. Dante ends up winning. And to make this worse, Vergil has the Force Edge yet still didn't win. Meaning that if they're both in the same physical condition, Vergil is not as strong as Dante.
The whole Vergil wins due to having an advantage becomes more obvious when he reformed. Dante is exhausted from fighting Urizen while Vergil reformed fresh. Dante lost due to being exhausted. Their rematch is basically round two, but again, Dante had to fight Vergil's nightmares. So once again, Vergil gets the advantage of not being tired. The fight became a draw again due to interruptions from outside forces.
But in the final round, where Dante and Vergil are sparring, Dante wins. They were both in the same area, had to fight demons, thus should be in the same physical condition. Following the formula again. Vergil can never beat Dante when they're both in the same physical condition, showing that Dante is the stronger one in the end.
Just a theory though.
Also, Dante absorbing the Sparda is basically just him inheriting his father's power. Which is more legitimate than Vergil eating the fruit. PROPER INHERITANCE!!!!
Going further, the second fight is a draw. But every time, it's because something interrupts the fight. The fight looks even, but then we have to remember again, Vergil keeps sitting at whatever location he is while Dante has to fight his way to him. So same situation as the first, but Dante got more powerful to make any kind of fatigue he's gotten a non-issue and made it a 'draw'.
Then finally, the final fight which leads to Dante's win. Same verse as the first, but Dante has gotten more powerful again. This time he wins, despite still needing to fight through enemy lines. Showing that he's the stronger one in the end.
Basically, Vergil is always fighting at an advantage of being in his best condition while Dante is always fighting at an advantage of being in his less than best condition. Even in 5, Urizen has the advantage of always being plugged into the Qliphoth, which allows him to recover while he waits for the fruit to ripen. So he's cheating in one way or another.
This stands out the most in the final fight of the third game. Both brothers had just finished fighting Arkam. They're both exhausted, meaning they're on even ground. Dante ends up winning. And to make this worse, Vergil has the Force Edge yet still didn't win. Meaning that if they're both in the same physical condition, Vergil is not as strong as Dante.
The whole Vergil wins due to having an advantage becomes more obvious when he reformed. Dante is exhausted from fighting Urizen while Vergil reformed fresh. Dante lost due to being exhausted. Their rematch is basically round two, but again, Dante had to fight Vergil's nightmares. So once again, Vergil gets the advantage of not being tired. The fight became a draw again due to interruptions from outside forces.
But in the final round, where Dante and Vergil are sparring, Dante wins. They were both in the same area, had to fight demons, thus should be in the same physical condition. Following the formula again. Vergil can never beat Dante when they're both in the same physical condition, showing that Dante is the stronger one in the end.
Just a theory though.
Also, Dante absorbing the Sparda is basically just him inheriting his father's power. Which is more legitimate than Vergil eating the fruit. PROPER INHERITANCE!!!!
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@parodyres Unless the fact that Dante is tired is brought up in the story, I don't think it should count. Vergil is shown to be much stronger than Dante for most of DMC3, and he does fight the demons in the tower.
Force Edge is just the deactivatd version of Devil Sword Sparda, I doubt it actually helped Vergil much.
Whether it be absorbing Sparda's power using the Rebellion or eating the Qliphoth fruit, it's both external powerups, hell Vergil had to do a lot more to get the fruit compared to Dante.
Also remember, in Devil May Cry, emotions and motivations are genuine reasons behind power. Dante beat Vergil because he wanted to stop Vergil and save him, his will to do it was stronger, while Vergil after getting scarred from his mother's death kept chasing after power for no reason. Nero unlocked his DT and got a huge boost solely because he was pissed and wanted to stop Dante and Vergil from killing one another. They're both stronger than him but Nero knocked Dante on his ass and beat Vergil because he wanted it more.
Force Edge is just the deactivatd version of Devil Sword Sparda, I doubt it actually helped Vergil much.
Whether it be absorbing Sparda's power using the Rebellion or eating the Qliphoth fruit, it's both external powerups, hell Vergil had to do a lot more to get the fruit compared to Dante.
Also remember, in Devil May Cry, emotions and motivations are genuine reasons behind power. Dante beat Vergil because he wanted to stop Vergil and save him, his will to do it was stronger, while Vergil after getting scarred from his mother's death kept chasing after power for no reason. Nero unlocked his DT and got a huge boost solely because he was pissed and wanted to stop Dante and Vergil from killing one another. They're both stronger than him but Nero knocked Dante on his ass and beat Vergil because he wanted it more.
