Eiyuu no Musume Toshite Umarekawatta Eiyuu wa Futatabi Eiyuu o Mezasu - Vol. 2 Ch. 12.5 - Extra (3)

[gojinki]

@mimisan Does a persons maturity regress when they reincarnate?
I'd think a 20yr old person reincarnating and keeping their memories would retain habits, speech patterns and such they had before passing away. Acting like a child to keep reincarnation a secret is fine, but outright becoming a child seems strange to me.

 

[elfalas]

There are plenty of adults that behave like that, even more if others stopped trying to hold back.
Not to mention how common it is for people to try do things they clearly can't anymore, no matter the reason.

People in general vastly overestimate how well they think and account for the various factors present at any given time,
even more so the older they are.
Try work in a healthcare section where you get in touch with alot of people whose circumstances changed a fair bit,
you'll have a rude awakening to just how childish almost every adult really is.

 

[flannan]

@gojinki - normally, when people reincarnate, they forget all of their past memories and become a child once again. Some people have claimed to recall their past memories through meditation or traumatic events later in life. Retaining some of the past wisdom and goodness somewhere deep inside is important to the concept of reincarnation (otherwise it's too gloomy). Likewise, basic personality is part of the soul, but it might develop very differently depending on circumstances.

Magically keeping one's memories from the start is unusual thing that only happens in fantasy novels. So whatever limitations the author imposes on reincarnation are acceptable, as long as they are consistent.

But in the end, I suspect our MC assassin was running around and being impulsive in his previous life too. Heavily armored warriors might behave with dignity, but assassins got to run around and appear in places they should not be in. It's kind of their job.

 

[metas]

@gojinki It's up to the universe

A lot of manga/anime universes act like reincarnation just snaps the mind they had when they died into their new body. But a case could be made for an approach, and this is just an approach, where the old mind is overlayed onto the new brain or is accessible.

Beyond that if their mind is a normal mind that experiences things like pain and pleasure and fight or flight responses, then it also experiences things like hormones. Those will change how someone reacts and think, regardless of everything else.

 

[gojinki]

@flannan I understand that it's up to the author but without any explanation as to why things are I just assume it's like going to sleep and the next day you wake up with the body of a baby.

I do believe it was just the nature of the MC to run around.


@metas That is true I forgot about things like hormones and in this case even a genderswap. That would surely have some sort of effect.
Do you know of any where the mind isn't just magically snapped in and the child just ends up acting mature?

 

[mimisan]

ya know @gojinki I really have no idea. That certainly seems to be the norm for Manga, but I think if we look at how children's brains develop, it would be more likely that someone who reincarnated keeping the memories of their past lives would have some bits from their old life, and others like level of maturity, way of thinking or even sexual preferences that can change.

A child may have the knowledge of an adult but will still think like a child. if you know what I mean

 

[Madcat6204]

The brains of children are not fully developed, and that is a major influence on a person's behavior. Also, there are different chemicals in both the body and brain of children as opposed to adults, and that can drastically one's behavior. In many ways the mind will reflect the condition of the body. It shouldn't be at all surprising that an adult suddenly living in a child's body would behave like a child. In fact, it should be much more surprising when that is not the case. However, too many authors use reincarnation as a cheap plot device without ever caring to think about what actual effects of it might be.

That said, I still think Nicole made a bunch of stupid decisions in this recent incident. What I suspect happened is that the author came up with the idea of giving Michelle the Third Eye, and then just wrote a scenario where it happened without any regard to how likely such a scenario would be. Thus, Nicole's behavior was plot-induced stupidity: the plot required her to be stupid to get to a certain point in the story.

 

[saito197]

@madcat6204 WN reader here, in the novel there was multiple scenes with Nicole acting stupid like a kid, pretty sure there's one time she said she felt her brain (or soul) is affected by being in a kid's body.

That's also one reason behind wanting to get her (his?) old body back through transformation.

 

[Porg]

@mimisan Honestly I think they should have skipped this part of the story, the bandit arc adds nothing worthwhile.

 

[mimisan]

@Porg well yes and no.. the bandit arc is merely a setup for a few things:
1) For Yuuri to give Michelle Third-Eye
2) Getting Michelle & Nicole to start training so she can use Third-Eye.
3) Gives Nicole some future ideas on how to better use her gifts (not shown yet. it's in the start of the next arc)

 

[YuriIsTooLewd]

If that's proof, I'm writing from an iskeai with internet access. I do agree that she regressed mentally, but this is no proof.

If you want to know how you prove that a character regressed mentally see https://mangadex.org/title/51376/reincarnated-as-an-aristocrat-with-an-appraisal-skill chapter 5. There is no way an adult would say that, or act like in that way. And those actions are the main point of the chapter, in the main story.

This is a proof only if you already believed that to be true, as this chapter could be explained also with the opposite theory. I've seen plenty isekai with adult protagonists that are treated like this to break the tension, and it happens only because they are misunderstood.

For example:
- "Don't run off on your own" is something you say to kids, and has nothing to do with their real mental age. If anything that's just her not adapting to others seeing/treating her as a kid.
- Running out onto the road is the same thing. For example an adult can can check the road with peripheral vision, sound, or by only moving the eyes. She is an assassin, I think she'd be able to do it. If a kid did this you'd think they didn't check, because that's how kids usually act.
- Her reaction to her maid stopping her would be natural too, as she didn't do anything wrong for an adult.
- This is not in the main story. Plenty of authors misrepresent characters or make them behave a bit out of character, just to be more cute or make the audience smile. You can't prove her mental age based on a 4 koma extra. Not to mention that all this could have been in the maid's point of view, which may be unreliable.

 

[LittleLovableLoli]

"Stop expecting her to act like some super cool adult assassin!"

THEN STOP WRITING HER AS ONE???