Enami-kun wa Ikiru no ga tsurai - Vol. 2 Ch. 8 - Enami-kun Doesn't Want to be Exposed

[Darklight99]

@Emanresu holy fucking shit with that logic. He said he hasn't written anything because he actually hasn't, he keeps wanting to but never actually follows through with it. And again, even if he had, it's his business, the girl is doing all this just to bully him, she outright says so, the cheating metaphor doesn't work at all because that is an example which affects multiple people, Enami's novel is his and only his business. What gives her he fucking right to through him under a bus for her enjoyment? Wtf is wrong with you to justify her shitty actions which is loyeral bullying she herself accepts?

 

[cor3zone]

@Darklight99 Enjoying his reactions implies some sort of 'like', no? Either way, MC is way more at fault here. She never told a single lie, as far as she knows. He keeps lie himself further down a hole. Calling out a liar makes you a better person, regardless of intentions.

Also, don't want to devolve the conversation so this is my last comment on Nagatoro: them liking eachother does certainly not excuse one-sided physical abuse, without consent.

 

[Crash21]

MC is too prideful to admit that he hasnt start writing, what is there to lose if he admit?
Just say " im getting started/interested in writing and looking for an inspiration" stuff like that, just bullshit through.
Yet, he kept lying to make himself looks cool and edgy stuff.

 

[Kiming4]

the fuck next chapter in 2020 !!??!?

mmmmmmm..

 

[Echonic]

C'mon pull off a Sakamoto.

 

[Darklight99]

@cor3zone She outright said that she only enjoys bullying him. Again, it's his business and she is completely unrelated to this, why is she butting in? She just wants to make fun of him. Calling out someone on something personal they don't want to divulge with the intention of making fun of them and humiliating them does not make one a better person, especially when it's something very personal.

If a woman going through her period says a simple lie that, "My stomach hurts" and another person loudly tells everyone that it's a lie and she is going through her period, would you still defend her? And we know that she is doing this precisely for fun and personal enjoyment, she isn't doing this unintentionally.

You people are fucked in the head to defend her.

 

[cor3zone]

@Darklight99 I don't give a fuck about her intentions, he's lying to make himself look good, and using different lies to different people. He lied and said he writes novels (he hasn't yet), then he lied saying he won't write novels (he's trying). He's a fucking liar, and needs to be called out.

Shitty example. I grew up with 6 sisters. Stomach aches are pretty much standard for most women, and it's not like they're trying to make themselves look better. They're trying to not disgust sensitive people, most of the time. It's is a white lie, but MC is not telling white lies.

You can fuck right off, insulting people just because they don't agree with you on fucking fictional characters.

 

[Emanresu]

@Darklight99 Ok, I feel like you just repeated your point and simply tried to be more persuasive by adding swearing, so please read carefully. If he really didn't write something, then why didn't he just say so from the start and deny bully girl's claims instead of making shit up? Problem solved, right? It's because he can't, because he actually did write something, which he's ashamed to let people know, especially to people he was looking down on earlier. The question is not if he has written something, it's if he writes something. Writing a piece starts with inspiration, establishing ideas, research (depending on the genre), etc, which he already does. Not having a chapter down doesn't mean he hasn't started writing a piece. You know the scenes where writers throw a bunch of papers in the trash trying to come up with something but can't? That's considered writing already. No output, but the process is being done.

Also, regarding the bully girl, I don't condone bullying, but honestly I think of this girl's antics as no more than "almost harmless" teasing. I mean, what happens when he goes to drinking parties? From my experience, I used to reluctantly go to university night outs with schoolmates I barely know, and me not being sociable, kept mostly quiet. They laughed at it a little but did it hurt me? Not one bit. If anything they lightened the situation and tried to get me to talk more, and it definitely improved my social skills a little. There were also lots of times where people snitched on me as well, like the time when I was like 12 and one of my friends snitched to someone that I'm fapping. Or how my friend snitched to my crush that I like her, which made it awkward for us to go home together sometimes, being neighbors and all. I trusted him to keep a secret, he enjoyed watching me act awkward with a girl I used to get along with just fine until she knew I liked her, he then snitched it to some other friends until most of my friends knew of it. Did I get mad? A little yea, but believe it or not were still friends up to now. There were even times where he would grab my hand and push it towards some girl's ass so the girl would get mad at me.

Meanwhile, I tried reading Nagatoro sometime ago and I couldn't bear reading it after 3 chapters, because what she does is real bullying. Comparing the girl here and Nagatoro, Nagatoro is way, way ahead of the bullying business.

Oh, and this ain't my business but I thought I'd let you know. It's "throw" under a bus, not "through".

 

[Arc]

ORETACHI NO

JUDGEMENT

 

[Darklight99]

@cor3zone How the fuck is it not a white lie? It's his business whether or not he writes novels, no one asked the girl to butt in,and again,she is only doing this to humiliate him, whether or not he writes novels doesn't affect anyone of them, he hasn't written anything yet, and he told them that he doesn't write. The girl came in intending on bullying him and is succeeding in doing so.
>He's a fucking liar, and needs to be called out.
Why? He already realised that he was wrong to judge them and realised his inadequacies, and he never even said anything to them our loud, why does he need to be called out? Because you're fucked in the head and think that people should be punished for thought crimes?

@Emanresu Because he's a moron with social anxiety. Again, it's not a small thing to him, nor is it harmless to him. He always likes to be alone, a girl forcing him in awkward situations to enjoy his reactions makes her a huge dick. He hasn't done a single thing to her, she just likes bullying him. He doesn't believe he can say properly that he has actually written anything because he hasn't really started. Just because you were ok with people messing with you doesn't mean that everyone else has to be, not to mention that he barely even knows that girl.

 

[jet45s]

@Darklight99 its for the plot you dumbfuck.. with out her this will be just a boring slice of life manga

and what her doing frocing him out of his comfort zone is good for the MC making him socialize and expanding his world.. even tho shes doing it for fun.. thats how socializing works. I guess you dont know that cuz based on the things you said you sound like an introvert with social anxiety.

unless he told her fuckoff.. in that case i aggree with you that the girls is an annoying fuck.

@Emanresu and @cor3zone are right about nagatoro.. those physical abuses are just plain bullying.. not in this manga case, i mean you are a fucking beta if you feel bullied by just some teasing/verbal abuse from a girl.

 

[cor3zone]

@jet45s I agree about this manga. Until MC clearly tells her to back off, which he hasn't so far, she can do whatever she wants (within the limits of the law).

 

[Karamru]

Were dealing with people who live in Japan and rarely do people there speak their mind its easy for us to tell someone to fuck off but rarely do they do that there without massive social ramifications especially in a group setting.

Also forcing people out of their comfort zone leads more than often to burn outs rather than self improvement and worsening of their social anxiety unless they do that of their own free will which in this case is clearly not and the little psycho clearly does it to get her jollies since she clearly states its and not to help him.

And unsolicited advice about how to live your life is annoying. Often, it achieves exactly the opposite of what the person has in mind. I can’t know for sure, but I imagine that people who say such things expect them to cry “hallelujah” and thank them for redeeming us, baby steps is how you do it and Inami has been doing exactly that the entire manga well except for writing a book but I recon the manga is over when he does.


@jet45s the fact you use the term "beta" unironically pretty much says you have never interacted before with a person in real life before and projecting af.

 

[cor3zone]

@Karamru He doesn't even need to tell her straight up, he just needs to not tag along. Just go home. Or better yet, don't lie in the first place. His lies got him into this situation, so he deserves whatever he gets until he owns up. The girl is being awful, but MC is way worse.

 

[Karamru]

@cor3zone From what I understand Inami had no intention of joining but got swept up by one of its members I agree he should not have lied but I would not call him worse than the girl who puts people in social awkward situations for shits and giggles but I'll drop it here since we'll end up talking circles around each other.

 

[cor3zone]

@Karamru His lies are what gave her a hold on him. But you're right, let's stop.😊

I'm devolving into a raging lunatic...😅

 

[Darklight99]

@jet45s I'm not complaining about the girl's presence in the manga, I'm perfectly ok with that, my only problem is people thinking that she isn't doing anything wrong. She is an antagonist right now and I like that. But saying that the protagonist deserves it is psycho territory. But do go on making assumptions about my personal life. Because apparently you think that bullying and making fun of people is "socialising". MC can make his own decisions. I'm a medical student in college and have plenty of friends whom I never had to bully. But do talk about 4chan terms on a manga piracy website as if you have any ground to stand on, you fuckwit.

Hah, calling someone a beta? Really? Are you a fucking incel or something? Only absolute noro s use such retarded terms. Nagatoro hasn't done anything physical for a long long time now. And it was a femdom fetish to begin with.

 

[exxp]

I feel like I can relate to Enami-kun this chapter a tiny bit

 

[salsadogscale]

I just started playing Yakuza 0 so I actually understood the reference

 

[SielentZ]

Alright boys
Never lie to someone 🤣