Eroge Tensei: Unmei ni Aragau Kane Buta Kizoku no Funtouki - Ch. 3

[irem01]

Just my 2 cents but unfortunately it's human nature to be interested in your bad deeds and ignore your good ones. Let's put it this way, you are falsely charged with rape, everyone is going after you and your family's head. And then a while later you get proven innocent. Congratulations, nobody gives a f**k, you lost years of life in prison, probably getting railed by inmates. People are still going to label you a rapist. Now if you spend years lamenting about it, nothing will change, so your best option is to adapt to the situation and build yourself up from the bottom. After all, if you can't change yourself, how exactly are you expecting to change others? Unfair? Yes, but such is life. It would be very nice if justice is served but if you cling your life into expecting that....not gonna lie small possibility then, well.....

Now back to the MC, judging by his current situation, everybody hates his guts, nobody is going to listen to what he has to say. Do you really think they would give him a chance to prove his innocence? So, what is the best course of action available to him? Show people that he is a changed man, so they will listen to him first, then find the chance to prove his innocence. The actual changes witnessed by everyone will further support his statements. After all would you believe in what you see or in the words of a dude you hate?
So yeah, what he is doing is pretty logical to me

You seem to misunderstand my comment I agree with everything you said, what I meant is a difference in mentality, he should not feel guilty for things he didnt do he should work for everyone to accept him apologize to victims but if they dont accept he shouldnt feel bad, maybe a little cruel but accepting all sins even in his head is really stupid

 

[rluka]

They can be interesting series, but sometimes I also ask myself why there's such a difference that in shounen isekai series the MC usually gets cheat powers and allies for a rewarding life, whereas in shoujo isekai the MC usually has too little power but a whole lot of enemies and a dire fate already waiting for her.

Probably way of thinking.

Things changes, but women still usually got less appreciated for their ability.
For example in shonen story, it’s usually still okay for girls to fail, it’s normal for them to receive help. But the male MC usually have this feeling they must never fail (which might explains why typical male MC are so afraid of taking actions).

Put it in other way, it’s like society sees it as normal for women to fail and be rescued.
So they want to proof they are not just to rely on men. Story that shows them going through the efforts and finally got rewarded would serve them more satisfaction and empowered feeling.
Well, there’s also opinion that female society are more horizontal and they can see there are things in life you can’t deal just by yourself. That’s why even with their OP MC, they still usually care more about giving something for the side characters. And when male MC use their OP cheat to mow all problems, female MC scheme to move the people around them to deal with it.

Meanwhile for the male, their issue is the thought about they are not allowed to fail, the effort itself is less important than whether you actually get things done or not. Friends and appreciation from people came from your success. So the story serve them by giving the experience of success. That’s why in stories, even if they don’t interact with people, as soon as the MC brandish an achievement, everyone instantly changes their opinion.
And male society is vertical, so the OP MC usually have to take all the spotlight. Rivals who get a lot of spotlight is not going to be BFF, they will be a competition, a possible NTR threat.

There are exceptions of course, but that’s what I often felt from reading stories.

 

[Kaarme]

Probably way of thinking.

Things changes, but women still usually got less appreciated for their ability.
For example in shonen story, it’s usually still okay for girls to fail, it’s normal for them to receive help. But the male MC usually have this feeling they must never fail (which might explains why typical male MC are so afraid of taking actions).

Put it in other way, it’s like society sees it as normal for women to fail and be rescued.
So they want to proof they are not just to rely on men. Story that shows them going through the efforts and finally got rewarded would serve them more satisfaction and empowered feeling.
Well, there’s also opinion that female society are more horizontal and they can see there are things in life you can’t deal just by yourself. That’s why even with their OP MC, they still usually care more about giving something for the side characters. And when male MC use their OP cheat to mow all problems, female MC scheme to move the people around them to deal with it.

Meanwhile for the male, their issue is the thought about they are not allowed to fail, the effort itself is less important than whether you actually get things done or not. Friends and appreciation from people came from your success. So the story serve them by giving the experience of success. That’s why in stories, even if they don’t interact with people, as soon as the MC brandish an achievement, everyone instantly changes their opinion.
And male society is vertical, so the OP MC usually have to take all the spotlight. Rivals who get a lot of spotlight is not going to be BFF, they will be a competition, a possible NTR threat.

There are exceptions of course, but that’s what I often felt from reading stories.

Quite a bit more in-depth analysis than I'd give isekai credit for. I'm indeed only talking about the isekai genre here. I look at it rather from an entertainment industry (business) point of view, not from a literature research, like you did. It's mainly escapism literature, so it needs to offer the reader such an emotion, above all. Though naturally there are already plenty of exceptions that stick more to traditional ways of writing fantasy, mainly referring to the MC needing to struggle and achieve things through effort. Regular (shounen/seinen) isekai offers instant success with minimal effort. This is the total opposite of the Japanese society, where one must take an extrance exam to the kindergarten already and it only gets worse from there. So, the students burdened by competition+bullying and black company employees working 15 hours a day for a minimum wage want to read something where there's no real stuggle.

Your way of looking at the shoujo side must be more accurate. Though I can also see some traditional princess fairy tale elements in them, because quite often the oppressed FMC is saved by some prince or duke, who's supposed to be all murderous, but in reality starts pampering the FMC.

 

[rluka]

Your way of looking at the shoujo side must be more accurate. Though I can also see some traditional princess fairy tale elements in them, because quite often the oppressed FMC is saved by some prince or duke, who's supposed to be all murderous, but in reality starts pampering the FMC.

Rather than the end result about being saved, the when and how is more important in my opinion.
As my opinion above, girls are more accepting about having someone else help them, compared to boys. But it's better if the helping hand is only offered when they have given their best and still couldn't do it. It's reassuring to know you have someone to support you when you need it most.

So for example, it's not good for Prince Charming to rush through the tower and kills the dragon to rescue the damsel in distress who only sits there doing nothing. They would feel like they can't do anything on their own, no power over their life.
But it's okay for the princess to keep on trying to escape and confront the dragon, and when all attempts failed, the prince came to fight by her side. In this situation, it feels more empowering because her struggles are acknowledged.

Even in Cinderella Story tropes, the female MC would at minimum hold her head tall and never just accept her condition. As opposed to the loner male MC we're familiar with, where they just give up on trying and try to shut themselves into their comfort zone (and got 11th-grader syndrome).

Agree on the brand of escapism on the shonen side.
They probably are sick already from all those effort in real life never getting them as much reward as they had expected when they still idolised those battle shonen stories. They get cynical, don’t see the effort as meaningful and lash out to demand just the reward because they learned the people around only care about result.
Even in story where the OP MC has “hard work”, those efforts are usually pushed into the “background story”, and the main story only show the result.

 

[whermit]

woman... The stripclub is a few blocks more to the east.

 

[JustSomeGuyOnHisPhone]

WOOOOOOO MC MIGHT BE ABLE TO FINALLY GET TO SEE HIS WILLY!!! Also hell yeah we finally gonna see the lip licking girl

Also I'm just gonna say this as my fuel to the fire discussion:

To me it seems like MC is going to have to accept his current circumstances and become a new Leold since that is who he isekai'ed into and who he'll have to be in order to continue living life and escape the dark history the old Leold made. Not to mention MC is kinda already "fused" with Leold and even apparently sharing some of his memories too