Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA 3rei!! - Ch. 71.2 - That Name

[mukyumukyun]

Ah yes..... another Type-Moon bingo card "MC Plot Armor" is checked.

If Illya is rewritten by the world that she never exists. So who insert memory about Illya to Beatrice and suddenly everyone remembers her ? Is it because of 2nd magic interference ?

probably one of the only instances I would be happy if the "MC plot armor" applies on illya here, cause she's gone through so much that she deserve to "be included in the happy ending" in her own story, she's already getting shafted by not having her own route in stay night and heaven's feel adaptation just straight up removed her most important scene, come on now, don't be mean to my girl here

I mean, at least you can say there was some sort of foreshadowing as it was mentioned during Illya's fight with Beatrice that her memory leaks out in the form of the thunder she releases in the sky (also the reason why Illya and the readers were able to see Beatrice's backstory with Julian), so it makes some sense that the if the thunder comes back to her, some memory also comes back.

As of how convincing this is (I don't think it's as obvious as Shirou handing Kuro the origin bullet), and whether this was Hiroyama's original intention when he thought about how everybody would remember Illya, or did he envision a slower development, that would be somewhat debatable.

(PS: As of "MC Plot Armor"... There seems to have been an unwritten convention in the world of visual novels that the protagonist shall not die, which I absolutely hate, but I guess this was just how it was, unfortunately.)

also, yes, like beatrice mention herself, her memory is riddled because of mjolnir, and because of how that thing works that thunder emitting from beatrice's body after getting hit by fragarach is supposed to be her memory, and when the thunder comes back her memory also came with it

 

[sho52]

probably one of the only instances I would be happy if the "MC plot armor" applies on illya here, cause she's gone through so much that she deserve to "be included in the happy ending" in her own story, she's already getting shafted by not having her own route in stay night and heaven's feel adaptation just straight up removed her most important scene, come on now, don't be mean to my girl here


also, yes, like beatrice mention herself, her memory is riddled because of mjolnir, and because of how that thing works that thunder emitting from beatrice's body after getting hit by fragarach is supposed to be her memory, and when the thunder comes back her memory also came with it

Didn't watch the movie. Out of curiosity, what important scene did it remove? Was it where Shirou rescued her from the castle? (I know that the ending scene of HF is there, but with a rather crappy musical score lol.)

 

[Lolipop_Candy]

Didn't watch the movie. Out of curiosity, what important scene did it remove? Was it where Shirou rescued her from the castle? (I know that the ending scene of HF is there, but with a rather crappy musical score lol.)

This..... the fanmade animation.
If you follow the movie story, you might feel confused why Shirou keep choosing to save Sakura and Illya sacrifice herself to close Greater Grail.
It's because ufo too focus on Shirou x Sakura that they have to cut this important scene which I think because it should be on Illya route

fyi, F/SN should have 5 routes where the forth one is Illya, and Fifth one is Shinji route. But Nasu is fucking lazy that she can't meet the deadline and T-M still not adding those two routes in the remake.

I hope ufo & T-M pay the debt by making exclusive route in the anime, for Illya and Shinji

 

[sho52]

This..... the fanmade animation.
If you follow the movie story, you might feel confused why Shirou keep choosing to save Sakura and Illya sacrifice herself to close Greater Grail.
It's because ufo too focus on Shirou x Sakura that they have to cut this important scene which I think because it should be on Illya route

fyi, F/SN should have 5 routes where the forth one is Illya, and Fifth one is Shinji route. But Nasu is fucking lazy that she can't meet the deadline and T-M still not adding those two routes in the remake.

I hope ufo & T-M pay the debt by making exclusive route in the anime, for Illya and Shinji

Got it. Yeah, I remember this scene in FSN when Lorelei played. I also think I watched this fanmade video some time ago.

Definitely. I also read that there might have been several reasons why they didn't have the Illya route in the end, such as Nasu being sick, TM having to meet the deadline, and even how Illya as a "legal loli" might run into troubles with the censorship lol. (Remember that scene when Illya kidnapped Shirou and had him in the chair. Apparently there was supposed to be more but they removed it.) Hiroyama has been really harsh on Sakura in Priya and I can understand his sentiment as a fellow Illya fan lol. IMHO the pacing of HF was quite off, and Sakura is a horribly uninteresting character (in the sense that the only thing she ever did was to be a classic damsel in distress to wait for the others to save her, while wrecking havoc for everybody throughout).

Don't think we're likely to ever get the proper Illya route (and in a sense Nasu said that as Priya is out there, there's no real need for one anymore, which... is somewhat unfortunate but I believe Hiroyama did incorporate some ideas into Priya, e.g. what happened between Shirou and Miyu.) I'm just so grateful that Hiroyama has been out there drawing Priya for 16 years straight.

 

[Lolipop_Candy]

Got it. Yeah, I remember this scene in FSN when Lorelei played. I also think I watched this fanmade video some time ago.

Definitely. I also read that there might have been several reasons why they didn't have the Illya route in the end, such as Nasu being sick, TM having to meet the deadline, and even how Illya as a "legal loli" might run into troubles with the censorship lol. (Remember that scene when Illya kidnapped Shirou and had him in the chair. Apparently there was supposed to be more but they removed it.) Hiroyama has been really harsh on Sakura in Priya and I can understand his sentiment as a fellow Illya fan lol. IMHO the pacing of HF was quite off, and Sakura is a horribly uninteresting character (in the sense that the only thing she ever did was to be a classic damsel in distress to wait for the others to save her, while wrecking havoc for everybody throughout).

Don't think we're likely to ever get the proper Illya route (and in a sense Nasu said that as Priya is out there, there's no real need for one anymore, which... is somewhat unfortunate but I believe Hiroyama did incorporate some ideas into Priya, e.g. what happened between Shirou and Miyu.) I'm just so grateful that Hiroyama has been out there drawing Priya for 16 years straight.

The reason there is no Prillya & Shinji route where they didn't have enough time is the most reasonable reason I guess. I think it's every Japanese problem where they are underestimate the timeline and put the schedule too tight. You can see most Japanese AA or AAA games even since PS1 era sometimes either late to release or released on time with several glitches.

Anyway, I guess Hiroyama Hiroshi is Rin fans. Same with me who also read the VN. He really characterize Rin so accurate that Rin is the smartest one in the series where she is always the first one to realize and explaining the problem, also even making the plan. Heck even Rin & Luvia comedy skit really well shown here.
And somehow I think he doesn't like Sakura character too, like of all things, such as why Dark Sakura use Lancelot Berserker which is depicted as the knight who stole everything from the king, but Sakura should be characterized as a person with hollow heart, where her element, Imaginary Number in kanji has literal meaning "Hollow Number" and it works like Gate of Babylon but inverse everything inside her Imaginary Space, also she is devouring and corrupting not stealing. The only right one is when Shinji donuted her chest that depicting her character. Plus in Zwei, Sakura doesn't even get much teetee time either with Rin or Shiro.

It's an unfortunate that Nasu abandon Illya and Shinji route even in remake VN. And also, she "owe" us the "4th Route" a.k.a. "Canon Route" to amalgamate the true story of F/SN that will be continue to Hollow Ataraxia, El Melloi Case, The Adventures of El Melloi II, and Grail Dismantling event.
She even forget to put story about Shinji's true nature that is well depicted in this Prillya as Julian.