Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA 3rei!! - Vol. 12 Ch. 62.2 - From The Planet To The People
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Find out in the past how to avoid this ... well, to begin with we do not know why it ended this way. All seemed to go well and Darius pulled a defeat event without previous explanation or reason.
Also, since when Gil has clairvoyance? Is it something from the Gacha universe?
Also, since when Gil has clairvoyance? Is it something from the Gacha universe?
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here Gill returns with the clairvoyance power he possesses only in fate grand order when he is in magician form, and in extra fairies and fake fakes in practice here he can use the maximum power of the Babylon door perhaps it is due to the recovery of the cards he owned of its power.
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On the TL note : I think born Of the planet would be the best fit, would satisfy both the in and on variations.
Second magic working with Gaia Guardian and Gils clairvoyance is a pretty good solution to the end of the world. I do wonder at what point Illya will be rayshifted back to and how they are going to handle the multiple versions of her spirit existing.
Likely the same as in extella I guess
Second magic working with Gaia Guardian and Gils clairvoyance is a pretty good solution to the end of the world. I do wonder at what point Illya will be rayshifted back to and how they are going to handle the multiple versions of her spirit existing.
Likely the same as in extella I guess
@maledetto30 so funny thing about that. Gil actually always has his clairvoyance, it’s one of his noble phantasms. In Fate Zero it’s not explicitly said by name and such but it is there, when he looks at rider or any servant for that matter he immediately is able to tell the true name and also noble phantasm of them. The reason it isn’t prominent in those series unlike fate grand order is literally because of gil’s arrogance in those series. Gil will see himself make decisions and lose but he won’t change those decisions… because he saw any future where he lost as ridiculous and denied them… despite knowing his own ability was an extremely powerful clairvoyance. That’s peak king jobber. In FGO he’s different and less arrogant and accepts the fact that he’d lose normally.
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Alt_Gil no, here the series is clear in fairies zero and in the fifth war Gill does not use this noble ghost because his master or Rin's father was not worthy, then in the fifth war here and even more explicit and clear it is caused due to the bathroom in the mud of chaos that came when the grail was destroyed in the fourth war.
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Actually they answered this in one of the type moon ace volumes.
Gilgamesh has his clairvoyance np active at all times, its not something he has to invoke.
Sha Naqba Imuru is really strong for clairvoyance as well, up there with what Solomon and Merlin have.
This is including in Zero and Stay Night. The issue is that when he sees things which overpower him such as that he was to be swallowed by the mud he rejects it as nonsense and disregards them.
His pride is always his downfall because he doesn't believe he would ever be defeated in such a way so it can't possibly be true.
Here is the quote
TYPE-MOON Ace Volume 10, Narita:
"As Gilgamesh is also a fellow clairvoyance user, I asked about the state of Gilgamesh’s memories when he’s summoned. The answer I got was that Gilgamesh can see the possibilities of various parallel worlds if he so chooses, but the Throne adjusts the memories and knowledge of the Heroic Spirit according to the world they are summoned in, so he won’t be confused by having multiple sets of memories. I was told that even if he did use clairvoyance to see the possibility of a world where he was swallowed by the mud of the grail, Gilgamesh would reject that world line as being nonsense. "
Actually they answered this in one of the type moon ace volumes.
Gilgamesh has his clairvoyance np active at all times, its not something he has to invoke.
Sha Naqba Imuru is really strong for clairvoyance as well, up there with what Solomon and Merlin have.
This is including in Zero and Stay Night. The issue is that when he sees things which overpower him such as that he was to be swallowed by the mud he rejects it as nonsense and disregards them.
His pride is always his downfall because he doesn't believe he would ever be defeated in such a way so it can't possibly be true.
Here is the quote
TYPE-MOON Ace Volume 10, Narita:
"As Gilgamesh is also a fellow clairvoyance user, I asked about the state of Gilgamesh’s memories when he’s summoned. The answer I got was that Gilgamesh can see the possibilities of various parallel worlds if he so chooses, but the Throne adjusts the memories and knowledge of the Heroic Spirit according to the world they are summoned in, so he won’t be confused by having multiple sets of memories. I was told that even if he did use clairvoyance to see the possibility of a world where he was swallowed by the mud of the grail, Gilgamesh would reject that world line as being nonsense. "
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To those saying this is Rayshifting or this is copying FGO. This is not Rayshifting, it’s Second Magic. Rayshifting does something different to produce a similar effect. Lostbelt 1 reveals that the Singularities existed as a layer on top of the world on a space time axis. Rayshifts shifts spiritron particles to that axis, this is straight up time travel which the Second Magic has some degree over; not as much as the fifth. You see this in the beginning of 3rei when the characters travel to Miyuverse. Run and Luvia appear a month before Bazett and Kuro; to which Bazett finds Rin’s pendant, Illya appears several weeks later.
Also Prisma and FGO has been borrowing each other’s ideas for years. Darius plan is straight up Goetia’s plan with different motives. Both wish to go to the creation of time to become the creator and reshape humanity. Both are protags who plays with cards. Mashu’s sacrifice is 1:1 straight Sakura’s sacrifice including her final words, smile, and look over the shoulder. Followed up with both Ritsuka/Shirou punching their kouhai’s killer in retaliation. Flashback has a Black Keys Craft Essence is a rip off that he paid too much for joke. Tree of Emptiness is based off a tool Rin uses to find the Gilgamesh Card. Amakusa’s character in FGO mirrors Shirou including Santa Jeanne’s wish to see the ocean being copied from Miyu’s. In Shimosa, Muramasa combines all swords in UBW to create his ultimate attack, Shirou tries to counters Enuma Elish by using all his swords in a single attack. There is just so many parallels to list.
Also Prisma and FGO has been borrowing each other’s ideas for years. Darius plan is straight up Goetia’s plan with different motives. Both wish to go to the creation of time to become the creator and reshape humanity. Both are protags who plays with cards. Mashu’s sacrifice is 1:1 straight Sakura’s sacrifice including her final words, smile, and look over the shoulder. Followed up with both Ritsuka/Shirou punching their kouhai’s killer in retaliation. Flashback has a Black Keys Craft Essence is a rip off that he paid too much for joke. Tree of Emptiness is based off a tool Rin uses to find the Gilgamesh Card. Amakusa’s character in FGO mirrors Shirou including Santa Jeanne’s wish to see the ocean being copied from Miyu’s. In Shimosa, Muramasa combines all swords in UBW to create his ultimate attack, Shirou tries to counters Enuma Elish by using all his swords in a single attack. There is just so many parallels to list.
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We going time traveling now? Homura will be proud.
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The line from Ruby about feeling excited for killing Illya lmao. It's definitely something from Hiroyama himself, just like the frame of Tanaka pinning Illya down on the ground when they first met.
Actually the part about Illya having a trip to the original peaceful world 2 episodes ago + this time traveling stuff reminds me of
lol. Might just have been too much of my own subjectiveness at play though.
@Abetillo @dexdoujinmanga I think people's expectation is that Illya will now go to ancient Greece (神代) to find Pandora and open/cure/kill her once and for all, given how Pandora is mentioned in this explicitly. Some are even speculating about Illya meeting the original Hercules lol. Or she just goes back to the day she meets Pandora in the classroom... At any rate we'll know in 20 days what Hiroyama's up to.
Actually the part about Illya having a trip to the original peaceful world 2 episodes ago + this time traveling stuff reminds me of
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@Abetillo @dexdoujinmanga I think people's expectation is that Illya will now go to ancient Greece (神代) to find Pandora and open/cure/kill her once and for all, given how Pandora is mentioned in this explicitly. Some are even speculating about Illya meeting the original Hercules lol. Or she just goes back to the day she meets Pandora in the classroom... At any rate we'll know in 20 days what Hiroyama's up to.
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She'll go back in the past and for WHAT? They don't even know how it got so bad? One wrong move and it'll mess up the entire future. Miyu could disappear as well. So many possibilities.
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I mean tbf they straight up half-kill her then directly move just her soul (spiritron body), complete with existence verification and observing the timeline directly to keep tabs on her for the trip. While Ruby professes to only being the power source for this plan.
I'm not gonna pass my verdict until the next chapter but it at least hits all the major rayshift checkmarks, and rayshifting technology was itself developed as a less dangerous alternative to the zero sail, which does move entire masses through space-time directly by dipping in and out of imaginary/void space (which is much more reminiscent of how the 2nd magic likely handles time travel; exiting a world line and re-entering the same line at a different point).
I mean tbf they straight up half-kill her then directly move just her soul (spiritron body), complete with existence verification and observing the timeline directly to keep tabs on her for the trip. While Ruby professes to only being the power source for this plan.
I'm not gonna pass my verdict until the next chapter but it at least hits all the major rayshift checkmarks, and rayshifting technology was itself developed as a less dangerous alternative to the zero sail, which does move entire masses through space-time directly by dipping in and out of imaginary/void space (which is much more reminiscent of how the 2nd magic likely handles time travel; exiting a world line and re-entering the same line at a different point).
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