Gantz: E - Ch. 72 - A Strange Coincidence

[MangaDex]

 

[EarlofMillenium]

I remember this scene...

 

[Zreth]

Totaly forgot about that clown

 

[Renan_Walheim]

My brain hurts.

 

[DeOneChester]

So...is this the same universe as the other gantz? I honestly barely remember reading that other fever dream so I can't tell if I'm supposed to recognize whats happening right now.

 

[hourai]

So...is this the same universe as the other gantz? I honestly barely remember reading that other fever dream so I can't tell if I'm supposed to recognize whats happening right now.

A commenter in a previous chapter said he asked Oku on twitter. The answer was that it should be considered a parallel universe. I didn't verify the source but I think it's the better way to look at it anyway.

If I'm not wrong, in original Gantz, Reika didn't need help. And edo gantz shouldn't exist because of that german girl catching alien signals subplot. Unless the technology somehow appeared in edo period and was lost afterwards

I wonder how long they will interact with modern japan, and if they will also fight thunder alien and his underbosses. If they also get the Osaka event, I hope we get the alien kid to interact with nurarihyon.

 

[NeverAnother]

OK lore-ass MF’ers. I recognize but barely remember why this should matter yet does this now mean that if Gantz has ‘scanned’ a dead person once they can have unfettered access to all points of their consciousness that have been in a ‘contract’ with Gantz? Like, is that how Gantz is actually bringing back people from the dead: just timestamped photocopies? As in Whatever/Whoever they were doing is now always game?

 

[hourai]

OK lore-ass MF’ers. I recognize but barely remember why this should matter yet does this now mean that if Gantz has ‘scanned’ a dead person once they can have unfettered access to all points of their consciousness that have been in a ‘contract’ with Gantz? Like, is that how Gantz is actually bringing back people from the dead: just timestamped photocopies? As in Whatever/Whoever they were doing is now always game?

I'm not sure about the rest, but the timestamped photocopies analogy is right. I also see the gantz transfers as "cut and paste" rather than teleporting. If a person is in memory, it can be "pasted". Gantz can also remove memories related to him so I guess it does have some access to the conciousness.

That's why there could be two kishimoto and that's how reika got her own kurono copy.
At the end, the aliens that sent gantz technology also wanted to make sure that humans understood that.

 

[beggarSoChan2020l2r3]

Wait.. I feel i've seen this before...

 

[TimeJoker]

I guess, we're gonna meet Kurono and the gang.

 

[darthnite]

Don't let that scene fool you!

 

[Rogojinen]

Really interesting because I have no idea what he wants to do with this.

The Oni mission is notable for being the first time the Gantzers weren't invisible to the public and Kurono's death. But I don't see how it matters to the Edo crew or what they're bringing to the table for the Tokyo crew.

Or maybe this mission doesn't matter in itself, only to introduce the concept with familiar faces and moments, and then have the Edo crew go through any moment of history with Gantz (in this parallel universe where the German girl isn't the starting point), so maybe we'll get to see other settings, other teams, a focus that would have been great in the original.

Basically, just like the premise of Gantz:E was random but cool, the story gets limitless: boom, next mission in 19th Century London and the main alien is Jack the Ripper; 1945, Hiroshima, the reader knows they should wrap up the game real quick but they're distracted by relationship drama and not worried by the weak aliens-

And it kinda makes sense, if you can transport information through space to recreate entire human beings, you can't do that without beaming them through time too.

 

[b-no]

BOOBIEEES. FINALLY.

Though this seems to be an alternate timeline from the original gantz. Otherwise I cant make sense what is happenning here.

 

[NeverAnother]

I'm not sure about the rest, but the timestamped photocopies analogy is right. I also see the gantz transfers as "cut and paste" rather than teleporting. If a person is in memory, it can be "pasted". Gantz can also remove memories related to him so I guess it does have some access to the conciousness.

That's why there could be two kishimoto and that's how reika got her own kurono copy.
At the end, the aliens that sent gantz technology also wanted to make sure that humans understood that.

So overlaps can now abound as botht the humans AND the aliens from any and all Gantz jaunts can be summoned. Also the “cut and paste” kinda has me wondering about the “cut” part. To take the analogy to it’s endpoint in a way that might be interesting, this would mean that for each individual, Gantz would only have access to the version of them that they last chose to “cut”, right? This is kindā limit to their power where it makes Gants have to selectively choose when/why they would want to make a certain “cut”.
Unless that is totally wrong and literally Gants can just copy from any moment in the entirety of their copied existence to just plop in anywhere.

 

[animan095]

Dafuq....
Do I have to re-read the og Gantz to understand this now?

 

[aridayo]

Dafuq....
Do I have to re-read the og Gantz to understand this now?

Seriously, I’m very lost. The last time I read the original Gantz was when the last chapter was released, that was 11 years ago. And even back then I forgot many events with how many times Oku was taking breaks and hiatuses over the years. I only remember Reika by name and art, nothing more. Might go reread the original and put this one on-hold until I finish.

 

[tappp]

This chapter shows us that the author is rewriting the original story, so there is almost no need to re-read the old manga. The boss is shown in the original manga. As someone already pointed out, this is a parallell universe, so one can just ride along. For example, in the original, the Edo team didn't follow Reika so she confronts the fucking situation by herself (because the edo team didn't exist in that "timeline" or "universe"). Also, in the original, it is implied that Reika handled these spaghetti-aliens by herself The reason I write "almost no need" is because Reika mentions names, but even so, the edo team should still have to "get to know" the old Gantz members. So we'll most likely get short introductions and see their "in-fight personality". The dude we see having sex lost and ran away from the boss the edo team are supposed to fight. The teams have different bosses to fight which is yet another reason for there not being a necessity of reading the original. But who knows, perhaps I'm mistaken about this

For those who do want to read and compare with the original timelines however, it starts from chapter 193 (last chapter), and with this chapter it is on chapter 199.

 

[Makenai]

A commenter in a previous chapter said he asked Oku on twitter. The answer was that it should be considered a parallel universe. I didn't verify the source but I think it's the better way to look at it anyway.

If I'm not wrong, in original Gantz, Reika didn't need help. And edo gantz shouldn't exist because of that german girl catching alien signals subplot. Unless the technology somehow appeared in edo period and was lost afterwards

I wonder how long they will interact with modern japan, and if they will also fight thunder alien and his underbosses. If they also get the Osaka event, I hope we get the alien kid to interact with nurarihyon.

That was me. Yeah I couldn't really deliver a source since I asked him that way back when Gantz E started and it bothered me. But I can assure you, I'm not someone to spread lies. Oku answered me in japanese and I used the twitter translation and it was something like "Imagine it as alternative universe" His answer was very short. But it honestly makes sense because this scene didn't appear in the original where Reika handled the Aliens by herself.

 

[The_H_Guy]

A commenter in a previous chapter said he asked Oku on twitter. The answer was that it should be considered a parallel universe. I didn't verify the source but I think it's the better way to look at it anyway.

If I'm not wrong, in original Gantz, Reika didn't need help. And edo gantz shouldn't exist because of that german girl catching alien signals subplot. Unless the technology somehow appeared in edo period and was lost afterwards

I wonder how long they will interact with modern japan, and if they will also fight thunder alien and his underbosses. If they also get the Osaka event, I hope we get the alien kid to interact with nurarihyon.

I guess we can consider this arc as the gantz we know, but with time travelers gone to the future.
So, more than a different universe is more like an alternate timeline. A thing that happened, or will happen in a future past.

 

[danteppr]

This chapter shows us that the author is rewriting the original story, so there is almost no need to re-read the old manga. The boss is shown in the original manga. As someone already pointed out, this is a parallell universe, so one can just ride along. For example, in the original, the Edo team didn't follow Reika so she confronts the fucking situation by herself (because the edo team didn't exist in that "timeline" or "universe"). Also, in the original, it is implied that Reika handled these spaghetti-aliens by herself The reason I write "almost no need" is because Reika mentions names, but even so, the edo team should still have to "get to know" the old Gantz members. So we'll most likely get short introductions and see their "in-fight personality". The dude we see having sex lost and ran away from the boss the edo team are supposed to fight. The teams have different bosses to fight which is yet another reason for there not being a necessity of reading the original. But who knows, perhaps I'm mistaken about this

For those who do want to read and compare with the original timelines however, it starts from chapter 193 (last chapter), and with this chapter it is on chapter 199.

You know, considering that the kicker to Kurono's character development was being the only survivor of the temple mission and that Sutezou is basically the same alien that killed Katou and Kishimoto, I wonder how Kurono will react about that.