Genkai OL-san wa Akuyaku Reijou-sama ni Tsukaetai - Ch. 26

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especially when Lapis, as you say here, went on to use Diana in her schemes to.....murder a ton of commoners in the kingdom and throw everything into chaos. Sounds less like "you're strong, I wanna kiss you" and "you're strong, therefore you'll make a good tool for me to use to my own ends".

Because clearly Lapis was such a 'simple' villainess, right?
https://mangadex.org/chapter/128dd468-0ce8-41f1-9717-c479631e283f/28
The idea that there's more behind the scene just never occurred?

because Natori doesn't love Diana

Umm, no?
https://mangadex.org/chapter/128dd468-0ce8-41f1-9717-c479631e283f/13
https://mangadex.org/chapter/6b147b41-dae9-4bab-8bcd-2aff86cdbb3b/17
"What made her my favorite"

But Allie is right there by Diana's side and continues to support her through the narrative that's in the pipeline, thereby strengthening their relationship over time and with Allie actually showing romantic feelings with intent toward Diana, thus building romance and chemistry between them until it clicks in a natural way.

Which still relies on the assumption that Diana will just somehow forget her love for Natori the moment those two get together, despite what the series has shown.
Or that Allie is fine as long as she get Diana, even a dejected one.

But hey, it's totally ok in your mind to pair the spare as long as the main couple remains squeaky clean right?
 
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This story is a drag in some way in the sense

Like I don't understand how Diana who's supposed to be the losing one(unless they go harem route) is SUCH A BETTER char then Lapis, she's been way more developed then Lapis

Like I HATE IT when authors do this type of shit, Lets create a losing heroine but make them SOOOOOOOOO much better then the FL to the point where we make our readers question why MC is even with the FL and not the losing heroine :shamihuh:

This story is 100% going to end in the type of way that I hate, barely any romance between MC/FL and all we got was ALOT of angst cause toxic yuri or something :meguuusad:
 
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Because clearly Lapis was such a 'simple' villainess, right?
https://mangadex.org/chapter/128dd468-0ce8-41f1-9717-c479631e283f/28
The idea that there's more behind the scene just never occurred?
Is there reason to assume that there's more to this scene, or are you by chance injecting your desires that Lapis would have loved a commoner whom she saw as a tool in her schemes, because you want there to be romance (toxic or otherwise) when there's no explicit canon justification for it?
"favorite" means a lot of things, just like "love" means a lot of things.
Diana for the longest time was "the heroine of a game that I used to escape my terrible life" for Natori. Diana was her favorite character, and was like an idol to her. She was as much fangirling over Diana as anything in their interactions throughout the story, and maybe sees her now as a close friend, but it's nothing like what she has with Lapis.

Which still relies on the assumption that Diana will just somehow forget her love for Natori the moment those two get together, despite what the series has shown.
Or that Allie is fine as long as she get Diana, even a dejected one.

But hey, it's totally ok in your mind to pair the spare as long as the main couple remains squeaky clean right?
I think it's easiest at this point to just say that we're looking and hoping for different things out of this story. I'm not going to say you're wrong or bad for wanting Natori & Diana to end up together, or for the three of them to poly it up in the epilogue.

For my part, I don't think there's enough between all three of them to justify a poly ending, because everything I've seen up to this point shows that the attraction and love each feels is not aimed in the same way, or is of the same type, as others in the triangle.
Ultimately it's whatever, we're at the point where we're choosing how we want to interpret things we haven't actually been clearly given in the narrative thus far, and once that's happening we might as well just be writing fan fiction, so I'll just leave it at that, here.
 
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This story is a drag in some way in the sense

Like I don't understand how Diana who's supposed to be the losing one(unless they go harem route) is SUCH A BETTER char then Lapis, she's been way more developed then Lapis

Like I HATE IT when authors do this type of shit, Lets create a losing heroine but make them SOOOOOOOOO much better then the FL to the point where we make our readers question why MC is even with the FL and not the losing heroine :shamihuh:

This story is 100% going to end in the type of way that I hate, barely any romance between MC/FL and all we got was ALOT of angst cause toxic yuri or something :meguuusad:
we've also.......not gotten to the meat of Lapis' character and backstory, and have been presented one image of her that is very clearly a curated one specifically to hide her true intentions from the world they all exist in.

Diana's also the protagonist of the game that the story's set within. That kinda by default will make her the darling character, with a personality meant to win over the player audience and thus us readers, especially compared to Lapis who's the antagonist and thus the one the gamers would be rooting against.

I won't speak to the rest of what you wrote because yes, this has been a bit of a slower paced series that's not necessarily helped by the release schedule with the density of the actual narrative, coupled with the protagonist being of the "Useless Lesbian" archetype.
But I have to imagine we've not even gotten to the meat of the Natori x Lapis storyline, because it's all been a setup to explain why she's the villainess of the story (both game and actual world they all exist in), and that yes, it's taking awhile, it will be developed and worked through.
Whether sufficiently, well that remains to be seen.
 
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Is there reason to assume that there's more to this scene, or are you by chance injecting your desires that Lapis would have loved a commoner whom she saw as a tool in her schemes, because you want there to be romance (toxic or otherwise) when there's no explicit canon justification for it?

Oh, I dunno, the series so far? Like how Natori even compared the real Lapis vs what the game show?
https://mangadex.org/chapter/128dd468-0ce8-41f1-9717-c479631e283f/33
Or
the upcoming reveal that Lapis here is actually Aurora, the supposed dead sister
I'm not saying Lapis and Diana was romantic in the game, but rather there's more to that pairing that you just seem to dismiss/forgot exist.

But them as a 'pair' doesn't work, hence why I want the poly ending, because each 'pair' lacks something that the 3rd would fill in.

and maybe sees her now as a close friend, but it's nothing like what she has with Lapis.

The Lapis she wasn't at all big geh for initially?

May I remind you that this was how her reaction was with Lapis initially:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/128dd468-0ce8-41f1-9717-c479631e283f/11
https://mangadex.org/chapter/128dd468-0ce8-41f1-9717-c479631e283f/14
While she was like this with Diana:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/128dd468-0ce8-41f1-9717-c479631e283f/15
 
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“oh a new chapter of Genkai OL lemme check the comments”

the comments:
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Can someone who read the raws, tell me how long this will take? I really dont want to read 5+ chapters of Diana and Natori being together…
 
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looks like she got fired as secretary, and turned back into a normal maid.
I believe she was just at Lapis'.....estate? House? Manor? whatever the term would be--as a "regular maid/Help", because she literally has nowhere else to go in this world were she to leave.

So she's fired from her job as secretary/familiar, but is stuck residing in the vicinity as she has no real connections otherwise (she's not a student of the academy, can't stay at the dorms (assuming there are any), she could maybe have gotten money to rent an apartment or room at an inn, but would have to then find work from scratch, etc)
Which....that's gotta be hell on her psyche.
Ah, I see, that makes sense then. Thanks! I guess it’s good that she has something, at least, though I agree that must be prrtty draining too . Well, I’m sure she’ll get her position back at some point though or become something else to Lapis.
 
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Can someone who read the raws, tell me how long this will take? I really dont want to read 5+ chapters of Diana and Natori being together…

"Yes"
As of ch 30 it just got to flashback to the past i.e. what made Lapis this way
 
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Can someone who read the raws, tell me how long this will take? I really dont want to read 5+ chapters of Diana and Natori being together…

It's only a friendly hangout and cheer up session. If you mean this specific convo then this one is a single chapter, focused on getting Natori not to give up. Afterwards Diana, Allie and Natori go to learn about Lapis' history. It's more like Allie and Diana as a duo working to help Natori and therefore Lapis. We're not far behind where things are currently.
 
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Oh, I dunno, the series so far? Like how Natori even compared the real Lapis vs what the game show?
https://mangadex.org/chapter/128dd468-0ce8-41f1-9717-c479631e283f/33
Or
the upcoming reveal that Lapis here is actually Aurora, the supposed dead sister
I'm not saying Lapis and Diana was romantic in the game, but rather there's more to that pairing that you just seem to dismiss/forgot exist.

But them as a 'pair' doesn't work, hence why I want the poly ending, because each 'pair' lacks something that the 3rd would fill in.



The Lapis she wasn't at all big geh for initially?

May I remind you that this was how her reaction was with Lapis initially:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/128dd468-0ce8-41f1-9717-c479631e283f/11
https://mangadex.org/chapter/128dd468-0ce8-41f1-9717-c479631e283f/14
While she was like this with Diana:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/128dd468-0ce8-41f1-9717-c479631e283f/15
Alright I said I'd leave it at the previous, but I'll bite.

Everything in your second half is from when Natori first showed up in the world and was working off her perception of the characters as she knew them when it was all just a game.
Of course she'll fangirl over Diana The Protagonist and be intimidated by Lapis the Antagonist.
I maintain that her "adoration" for Diana is that of a fan and her idol, not someone developing romantic feelings. If anything, it's more like sisterly love than "I want to be your wife", at present.

She comes to have a deep connection with Lapis, however, as she learns how different Lapis is from her portrayal as the villain of the game, and it absolutely becomes at minimum much more romance coded at the point in the story we're at, especially compared to what Natori has toward Diana. Yes, Diana very much likes Natori. But it decidedly one-way in terms of the specific kind of "like".

I'm also working entirely off the manga and have not read the source material, so forgive me if I'm not pulling from events not yet portrayed when I make my point.

And I did say "has", not "had". So referencing "initial" parts from the beginning of the story like the characters haven't changed since that point feels disingenuous to me.

Beyond that, it's really whatever. I personally don't see a reason for a poly ending. I won't belittle you or try to take away your enjoyment of and desire for it, but we're not going to convince the other on this point I think, so I'll once again just say "whatever happens by the end, hopefully it's justified by the writing in-between", and wish you well.
 
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Alright I said I'd leave it at the previous, but I'll bite.

Everything in your second half is from when Natori first showed up in the world and was working off her perception of the characters as she knew them when it was all just a game.
Of course she'll fangirl over Diana The Protagonist and be intimidated by Lapis the Antagonist.
I maintain that her "adoration" for Diana is that of a fan and her idol, not someone developing romantic feelings. If anything, it's more like sisterly love than "I want to be your wife", at present.

She comes to have a deep connection with Lapis, however, as she learns how different Lapis is from her portrayal as the villain of the game, and it absolutely becomes at minimum much more romance coded at the point in the story we're at, especially compared to what Natori has toward Diana. Yes, Diana very much likes Natori. But it decidedly one-way in terms of the specific kind of "like".

I'm also working entirely off the manga and have not read the source material, so forgive me if I'm not pulling from events not yet portrayed when I make my point.

And I did say "has", not "had". So referencing "initial" parts from the beginning of the story like the characters haven't changed since that point feels disingenuous to me.

Beyond that, it's really whatever. I personally don't see a reason for a poly ending. I won't belittle you or try to take away your enjoyment of and desire for it, but we're not going to convince the other on this point I think, so I'll once again just say "whatever happens by the end, hopefully it's justified by the writing in-between", and wish you well.
This kind of comment chain is what I meant by my earlier response as well. I don't get involved in these much anymore because the few who still say this stuff are really adamant despite mounting evidence to the contrary. It doesn't even up going anywhere, so I find it better to just let the story play out at this point.

I also kept an open mind about where the relationships could progress but they've consistently progressed in one direction for so long now that I'm less unsure of where I think it's going narratively. You're right that it would take a sudden and consistent shift for things to change but I don't see the point of that, especially now with Allie here. Allie's inclusion is also something I assumed the story would do. I was just surprised they added her this early.
 
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She comes to have a deep connection with Lapis, however, as she learns how different Lapis is from her portrayal as the villain of the game, and it absolutely becomes at minimum much more romance coded at the point in the story we're at, especially compared to what Natori has toward Diana. Yes, Diana very much likes Natori. But it decidedly one-way in terms of the specific kind of "like".

I'm also working entirely off the manga and have not read the source material, so forgive me if I'm not pulling from events not yet portrayed when I make my point.

And I did say "has", not "had". So referencing "initial" parts from the beginning of the story like the characters haven't changed since that point feels disingenuous to me.

Yeah, characters changed, so you insisting Natori x Diana would never be a thing because "Natori only has feeling as a fan" is rather ironic isn't it.
Especially with how many series out there that begins with 'FL just want to admire her oshi from afar'

And I've yet to see any convincing argument for Allie x Diana except as 'pair the spare' just for 'clean' Natori x Lapis.
Especially with the way you suggested:
"But Allie is right there by Diana's side and continues to support her through the narrative that's in the pipeline, thereby strengthening their relationship over time and with Allie actually showing romantic feelings with intent toward Diana, thus building romance and chemistry between them until it clicks in a natural way."

Which has been how Diana is towards Natori.
Feelings for Natori - check
Continue to support her - check
Until it click - BUT LAPIS

I'm also working entirely off the manga, I just happens to read the RAW
and ch 30 add to my point earlier that Lapis doesn't see Diana as just convenient tool
 
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This story is a drag in some way in the sense

Like I don't understand how Diana who's supposed to be the losing one(unless they go harem route) is SUCH A BETTER char then Lapis, she's been way more developed then Lapis

Like I HATE IT when authors do this type of shit, Lets create a losing heroine but make them SOOOOOOOOO much better then the FL to the point where we make our readers question why MC is even with the FL and not the losing heroine :shamihuh:

This story is 100% going to end in the type of way that I hate, barely any romance between MC/FL and all we got was ALOT of angst cause toxic yuri or something :meguuusad:
Well, that's the main plot of "competitive" in any romance story. Other than first girl appear in chapter 1, will never win in the end.

But there's a lot of story only focus 1 girl now (any kind...het, Yuri and yaoi). And it's boring for me, i feels like a third wheel and often say "GO GET LAID, DAMMIT!" When read a story without R-18 tag, lol.

So you should read story that only focus 1 girl/boy, don't force yourself reading what you don't like. Or read it with fun thought. Stress is bad.
 
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Well, that's the main plot of "competitive" in any romance story. Other than first girl appear in chapter 1, will never win in the end.

But there's a lot of story only focus 1 girl now (any kind...het, Yuri and yaoi). And it's boring for me, i feels like a third wheel and often say "GO GET LAID, DAMMIT!" When read a story without R-18 tag, lol.

So you should read story that only focus 1 girl/boy, don't force yourself reading what you don't like. Or read it with fun thought. Stress is bad.
I just want the story to focus more on the main cast, the FL is BARELY developed because we are focusing on her trauma back story instead AND also focusing on side chars making the other girls more interesting since we know more about their personality etc then the FL and that's just a pain

Imo triangles aren't cancerous but Triangles that focus on someone that will AUTO LOSE while leaving the winners barely developed just makes shit badly written :aquadrink: I don't wana feel like dam Idk why MC is with FL when side girl is SUCH a better char, that's just ass writing :shamihuh:
 
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Natori has never given Diana the impression that she likes her (romantically). That's always been entirely from Diana's perspective alone. Diana is a good friend though and Natori's Oshi. Natori has treated her like a sister or fan. That's why this whole poly thing has never worked. Natori is not feeling romance for two people, only for Lapis. Now, Allie is here and we see what a person who actually feels romance for Diana looks and acts like.

I've made a bunch of comments in previous chapters discussing this throughout the series, so this isn't a recent thing. The story has always made it clear that Diana has "Diana Vision." Pretty much any "moments" she had with Natori were friendly from Natori's perspective, while Diana's perspective would be filled with romance cues. With Lapis however the romance would come from both of them together. It was mutual.
Yes this is true as a Diana supporter I feel sad but at the same time after they added another girl potentially for her.

We just have to accept it after all the tension between natori and lady lapis is entirely different on what we could see between natori (natalie) and Diana.


Somehow I don't think if it just because of this arc but, their distance became larger than before. Clearly the author is being clear on who's gonna be the love interest on wards.
 

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