Getenrou

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I've been reading his stories for years, but kept putting Getenrou off until now. No regrets.

I have to say, though, it's better than I expected. (And Ishiguro Masakazu's standards are pretty high already.)
 
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This story is definitely worth a read. Don't be put off by the simple art style or the cheap jokes at porno mags in the first chapter.

Just as a warning: In the beginning its a wacky comedy story, at the end it's a tragedy.
 
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Noice. I wish we had scientists like in this story, that could give less of a shit about morals and just focus on scientific advancement at all costs. And the funny thing about it that even from a moral perspective a scientific discovery that is made earlier could potentially save or improve lives of millions of people, at the cost of sacrificing only a few of them in the process.

Also, the ending is somewhat satisfying.
A moral busy body that was enraged at the scientists got what he deserved and died in hopeless and meaningless death, as well making his actions result in the the death of a person that he tried to "rescue" from those scientists.
. That's what happens when you don't think with your head and just act on emotions. Although the ending could have been better if he was killed before he could do any damage to scientific progress and men of culture.
 
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Scientific advancement in what, I wonder?
It seems as we didnt read the same story, after all.
The fairies' scientific relevance was as much as sea monkeys: none at all, just commercial value. The experiment (his mom/sister) was a failed aberration that couldnt survive on its own and served no purpose in the world at all. It was merely the result of a sexual aggression from an idiot who thought he was god. And he too had a meaningless death, with the results of his not-even-a-bit-scientifical "research" destroyed, and his name left to rot and dissapear, as it concluded nothing, and only left behind disgusting evidence of unprofessionalism. This manga is not a cautionary tale, though. It all ends in shit because it's supposed to be a tragedy. History, in other hand, teaches us how mindlessly toying with living beings is pointless and a waste of human resources. Take the "science" made by n*zis as an example: accomplished nothing and is looked down by the scientific community. Nothing but fetishistic play. The kind of vision you have is an stupidity only expected from an edgy high-schooler who doesn't know better, though. So if you want true scientific progress I ask you to stop basing your thoughts in fetishistic material and actually look for real, purposeful science. Because this kind of thinking not only accomplishes nothing, but also makes scientists look like fools and a waste of time and money.
 
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@deadhyenas Do you not understand how scientific progress is made? A failed experiment is still a useful data point. So, yes, he was successful scientist and other can continue his work and use his data to understand where to look and what fails. His life was not meaningless as he advanced humanity understanding of life. And his research could lead to things like artificial womb. His son life on the other hand was completely meaningless, as he achieved nothing at all. He did not even destroy father scientific legacy (if that's what he wanted to do), as it was already in production, meaning, that people in the manufacturing process already knew all the details. Not to mention that keeping backups on different servers is just common sense in modern times, and police will find those as they investigate.

About nazis - you should read about how much effort both USSR and US put into capturing nazi and japanese scientists for themselves, because they understood importance of the data that they gathered and how unique it was.
 
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Noice. I wish we had scientists like in this story, that could give less of a shit about morals and just focus on scientific advancement at all costs. And the funny thing about it that even from a moral perspective a scientific discovery that is made earlier could potentially save or improve lives of millions of people, at the cost of sacrificing only a few of them in the process.

Also, the ending is somewhat satisfying.
A moral busy body that was enraged at the scientists got what he deserved and died in hopeless and meaningless death, as well making his actions result in the the death of a person that he tried to "rescue" from those scientists.
. That's what happens when you don't think with your head and just act on emotions. Although the ending could have been better if he was killed before he could do any damage to scientific progress and men of culture.
Historically, there has been plenty of science done without morality, and it has mostly just resulted in stuff like loads of animals dying for trivial novelties, cruel/traumatizing expiraments on human beings, and the infamous field of eugenics. Which is why there is so much emphasis on morality in science today. Morality barely hinders any worthwhile scientific discoveries. And the example in this manga is a good example of it not needing to, since
artificial life science was used to also make organs and such, and could have just been discovered through cell donorship for the real scientific research that is being done today on the topic of growing organs from human cells.
 
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I absolutely love this author's work and can't stress enough that this sort of sci fi will make you stop and consider the humanity of all SORTS of decisions and actions. I'm truly heartbroken upon reaching the end and I want to be heartbroken in this way many more times in my life 🥲
 

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