Girls und Panzer - Saga of Pravda - Vol. 3 Ch. 14 - Preparation

[MangaDex]

 

[Okuu]

So I'm not a longtime GuP fan, just peripherally acquainted with the franchise and don't know the inconsistencies touched upon in the credits page, but I'm wondering why a series about the Pravda school team's Rocky moment simultaneously goes to such lengths to show how increasingly incompetent their chief rival is, thereby hollowing out Pravda's eventual victory. Is there something bigger at play that's going on but I haven't seen in this manga? Or is it bad writing?

 

[Darkenning]

Well, in the original series, Pravda's victory over Kuromomine occurred because of exactly one thing -- Miho's decision to rescue some of her teammates who were in danger, allowing Katyusha to fire the shot that took out their flag tank. That's great for Miho's story, but it doesn't tell us anything about Katyusha. So this story is focusing on Katyusha's development as a commander, while at the same time relating how things at Kuromomine (and in the sport in general!) got to the point where Miho felt she had to do what she did, acknowledging that Katyusha's victory was ultimately a hollow one. Their win in that tournament isn't a Rocky moment, it's very nearly the nadir of the series' backstory.

In the process, it's contradicting a fair number of other 'prelude' type stories that have been told over the years. That's just what happens when you have a franchise expanded by diverse hands, and there's no real point in crying about it

 

[CyanHide]

Thanks again /ak/!

 

[izumabakumatsu]

Darjeeling's face at the end... imagine if Pekoe saw Darjeeling like this. Haha

Also, I thought Shiho was the Senshado Chairperson during the tv series? Or was it the older dude we saw in the movie?

 

[NinetyTwo]

@izumabakumatsu Shiho was not the Senshado Chairman during the TV series. She was only the family head of the Nishizumi Style. Shichiro Kodama (who I am assuming is the Vice-chairman here in Saga of Pravda) was the Senshado Federation Chairman in Der Film. I assume that the previous chairman resigned due to the controversy of Katyusha's victory against KMM in the 62nd National Senshado Tournament, thus making Shichiro Kodama the current one.

@Okuu All of the GuP manga is not canon, so it ultimately does not matter what happens here. What is considered canon is the TV anime series and the supplementary information from sources like Senshado Monthly or from the creators. The "inconsistency" is just due to different authors and time periods adapting to the TV anime canon and changes to previous plot points or characters (Main one being Anchovy's personality changing from the early manga to what's seen in the Anzio OVA).

 

[Kt27]

Judges are back . It was so long since i have not see Kanon and Remi

 

[Ruhrpottpatriot]

@NinetyTwo @Okuu A better in universe explanation: Propaganda! Naturally Saga of Pravda is told from Pravda's PoV and by them, therefore they have an interest to present them in a good light, but not their enemy, same with Phase Erika, which is told and shaded by Erika's PoV.
With that we can somewhat hand-waive the inconsistencies.

 

[alexsdu]

So... this what's led to the controversy during the tournament where the Pravda won.
Budget cut on the Judges > reduced number of Judges personnel to monitor the matches > the slow action of declaring to stop the match when accident happen > Pravda snatched the victory from KMM and became the victor of the 62nd Senshado tournament.

It's all the chairman's fault.

Now I wanna know where would the PTA connect in this manga. It's related or just a KMM internal problem.

 

[g_z]

@Ruhrpottpatriot
That really reminds me of this article I read the other day lol
http://www.zimmerit.moe/historiography-gundam-one-year-war-canon/
"(...)
A more productive way to approach the mess of Gundam continuity would be as a historian. Think of each Gundam product (be it book, movie, anime, manga, and so on) as another primary source, telling the history of the Universal Century. And one of the most important things to remember about primary sources is that they are often wrong, and occasionally completely nonsensical. There are lots of reasons that you can’t take a historical document as fact. Sometimes, the author simply didn’t know something, or they reported a rumor as fact, or they’re lying to make themselves look better, or they have a crippling internal bias, or actually you’ve been reading something never meant to be taken as reality (this mistake happens way, way more often than you might think).
(...)"

 

[mangasaviour]

The way that politics is discussed in this series is so good.

 

[Ruhrpottpatriot]

@g_z Depends on the type of primary source. In general you can more often than not trust commission reports or other studies about a topic (e.g. the effectiveness of the M4's 75mm gun in combat), simply because they almost always adhere to the scientific method and are written by multiple people and if they are not, you can almost always sport the methodical errors and then discard it as useless.
Sources that you always have to take with a grain of salt are personal accounts (e.g. Guderian's or Slede's Memoirs) because they are, more often than not, shaded by the (only) authors point of view.

But that's something you learn in the first week of history studies in university.