Goshujin-sama to Yuku Isekai Survival! - Vol. 5 Ch. 27

[WhimsiCat]

But that's the thing. I'm not arguing for ingenuity to replace magic but to incorporate it. Channeling magical energy of a user into some form of converter to do mechanical work seems to be a mechanism of common-enough knowledge in the manga's world. Yet, those are nowhere to be seen. Not as drivers for millstones, not as reciprocators for sawmills (or hell, hand saws!), not as vibrators in love toys …

Supply is the issue. Why use highly limited resource for mundane task when you can use it for more useful things that do need it. Not to mention with how expensive mythril is supposed to be average household won't be able to just afford them.

On the other hand, gold is seen in the real world as such a big deal behind financial power that it is of state interest, yet it's in a vast majority of cheaply available consumer products, so, that doesn't really hold up, either.
And mythril being well-known, if rare, even before K's arrival implies mechanisms are in place for unearthing it. Which in turn means it's available to the laws of economics of scale. If people can make profit, it's inevitable to have a supply of even the most precious, rare, and difficult-to-extract materials made available, one way or another.

So, with the availability as a limiting factor pretty much ruled out, it's like mankind knowing about electricity yet foregoing (post-steam) technological advancement because they couldn't be arsed to develop and make electric motors. It just doesn't add up.

Ah yes, clearly gold have ALWAYS been easy to find that there was NEVER a period in history where people spend so much resources trying to find them, right?

You're assuming they know how to find Mythril just because they have some, when so far it seems more like they find them by chance/in ruins of past civilization (if they do have a method of finding mythril, why was Kosuke able to dig up some in that cliffside? Clearly if they would've dig those out before he arrive if they do have such option)

But you effectively never see any chores being done with magic. If it was really so ubiquitous, there'd be a lot more on display, and on casual display at that. Or rather, if artist and author thought about the implications and would want to convey that it be so ubiquitous, they'd see to displaying it.

Because using magic still have one shared aspect as doing it manually: fatigue.

So why waste extra energy to use magic if something simple can be done by hand. Save the mana for actual emergencies like fighting monsters.

 

[baconcat]

Supply is the issue. Why use highly limited resource for mundane task when you can use it for more useful things that do need it. Not to mention with how expensive mythril is supposed to be average household won't be able to just afford them.

As I wrote further down. If people were as inventive as could reasonably be expected from comparison with human society, they would have figured out how to optimize obtaining mythril and using as little as possible to make a profit in making and selling the cores for appliances and devices. Including appliances and devices for obtaining more mythril.

Because using magic still have one shared aspect as doing it manually: fatigue.

Conjecture. Please produce reference that fatigue is a noteworthy element in the use of magic in this world. Also, not literally everyone is literally always expecting to fight monsters, let alone fight them with magic. We saw how it took no less than a court magician to combat gizmas at scale with magic while literally everyone else was resorting to physical engagement. Yet, the ballista was described as requiring working just fine with the supply of any unspecified user, not a trained and capable magician, to keep the the cycling golem running.

 

[WhimsiCat]

As I wrote further down. If people were as inventive as could reasonably be expected from comparison with human society, they would have figured out how to optimize obtaining mythril and using as little as possible to make a profit in making and selling the cores for appliances and devices. Including appliances and devices for obtaining more mythril.

If only they weren't just invaded and lost their country 20 years ago, eh? Gosh darn why dothese refugees not have the leeway to sit down and research to improve society.

Yet, the ballista was described as requiring the supply of any unspecified user, not a trained and capable magician, to keep the the cycling golem running.

Which used golem core...which isn't the commonly used magic that you questioned.
Not to mention the mana is only for reloading only and nothing else, the user still have to use their strength to adjust the aim or any other things.

Conjecture

You know it's ironic you're calling my post conjecture when your whole post is very much conjecture on the nature of magic world?

 

[baconcat]

If only they weren't just invaded and lost their country 20 years ago, eh? Gosh darn why dothese refugees not have the leeway to sit down and research to improve society.

Because those refugees are not the only inhabitants of this entire world capable of thinking and inventing.

Which used golem core...which isn't the commonly used magic that you questioned.
Not to mention the mana is only for reloading only and nothing else, the user still have to use their strength to adjust the aim or any other things.

It literally says, "begin supplying magic". And previous panels document "allowing the user to provide magic" and "the consumption should be low enough". The magic is the electricity, the golem and the core are the electric motor. Adjusting the aim or "any other things" would be necessary regardless whether a golem cycler be used, so, not sure what that argument is supposed to do.

You know it's ironic you're calling my post conjecture when your whole post is very much conjecture on the nature of magic world?

My posts are not conjecture. All I'm doing is comparing documented findings and how they do not match up into a consistent world. You, however, are invoking mechanisms – mechanisms that so far have no backing in and by the manga – to try and fill in the holes of inconsistency.

Besides, even if my posts were conjecture, it wouldn't make yours any less a conjecture, so, again I'm not sure how that argument you're thinking you're making here is supposed to further this discussion.

 

[WhimsiCat]

Because those refugees are not the only inhabitants of this entire world.

But you're questioning these people though?

It literally says, "begin supplying magic". And previous panels document "allowing the user to provide magic" and "the consumption should be low enough". The magic is the electricity, the golem and the core are the electric motor.

And humans can't use electricity without appliances, so your logic on 'why aren't these people using magic for chores' without golem core kinda start breaking down ain't it?

All I'm doing is comparing documented findings and how they do not match up into a consistent world.

Except you're comparing THEIR world to OUR world. You're not working from information existing in their world, thus making the whole thing a conjecture.

it wouldn't make yours any less a conjecture, so, I'm not sure how that argument you're thinking you're making here is supposed to further this discussion.

Yes mine was also conjecture, but that's the point: The WHOLE discussion is conjecture because it's a FICTIONAL WORLD that doesn't have to play by our rules (and obviously doesn't, see Kosuke's ability which doesn't even play by their rules either)
So YOU using the conjecture card KILL the discussion because by default everything we say are conjectures about their world.

 

[baconcat]

But you're questioning these people though?

I'm not, though. But if that was the appearance: No, not specifically. And yes, they were invaded and exiled and whatnot 20 years ago. Doesn't mean the entire world suddenly and conveniently develops amnesia just enough for some isekaied dude's ideas to look impressive when they're what they would have invented, or in fact already had invented, as a natural course of technological advancement, anyway. That is, if only the author would have thought things through beforehand instead of now jumping from one idea to the next.

And humans can't use electricity without appliances, so your logic on 'why aren't these people using magic for chores' without golem core kinda start breaking down ain't it?

Electricity and appliances developed alongside each other, though. And still do. Worse yet, the Goshuujinsama world inhabitants always carry their "electricity" with them, they don't need wall outlets or generators and power banks (although crystals do also exist that can store and supply magic). So, they have even more opportunity to be technologically advancing.

Except you're comparing THEIR world to OUR world. You're not working from information existing in their world, thus making the whole thing a conjecture.

Uh, but I am? Didn't I just say I'm working off actual findings? As in, things that are documented by author and artist?
Yes, I am comparing their world with our world because their world exhibits structures and mechanisms similar to ours. Yes, the workshop in that stronghold was set up by K', but it was readily filled with people creative and competent in mechanics and invention. See the female character with the glasses and her colleagues. K' didn't spawn them, now did he? And even beyond that, people evidently invented use of fire, settled down from being hunter-gatherers, came up with agriculture and animal domestication, invented the wheel for carts, invented cloth suitable for clothing and making sheets large enough for tents and sunshades, learned ironworking for making barrel hoops, for smithing weapons and protection, mail for armor, optical glasses for the inventor girl's glasses … but somehow the magic abilities they also have, in addition to the purely physical ones like we have, went completely undeveloped and unchanneled.

Yes mine was also conjecture, but that's the point: The WHOLE discussion is conjecture because it's a FICTIONAL WORLD that doesn't have to play by our rules (and obviously doesn't, see Kosuke's ability which doesn't even play by their rules either)
So YOU using the conjecture card KILL the discussion because by default everything we say are conjectures about their world.

That's not how any of this works.

• The discussion is not conjecture. For any reason. I don't think you're using this word in the sense that it is supposed to be used.
• Just because a world is fictional doesn't mean it works even without any rules or consistency whatsoever. Rules and consistency are in fact what make up a world, fictional or otherwise. Even a lack of rules or a lack of consistency would have rules and consistency if it was to construct a world setting. Otherwise it would be, quite literally, non-sense.
• K' isn't the one using the ballista. In fact, K' couldn't use the ballista's golem (unless the golem came with one of those crystals) because it's established he doesn't have even a hint of magic/mana.
• K' is established to be a cheat character.
• I'm not "playing the conjecture card". I'm sorting things that can be observed, and have been, against things that have not been observed or even suggested to be observable, but were still raised as if they were backed by observation.
• I'm not saying everything anyone else but me says is conjecture by default. That's you generalizing things unduly.

I'm sorry to see that simple disagreement is making you so upset, but I cannot change the manga, nor can I allow you to make the things I said sound like things I didn't say or even like the opposites of what I said.

 

[RanmaChaos]

Thanks for the chapter

 

[WhimsiCat]

but somehow the magic abilities they also have, in addition to the purely physical ones like we have, went completely undeveloped and unchanneled.

Conjecture. Please produce reference that their system of magic have not developed in however long of history they have.

You don't know what their magic was like in the past, how are you so sure their magic haven't gone through any development at all?

I don't think you're using this word in the sense that it is supposed to be used.

Says the person who call me saying using magic also cause fatigue 'conjecture'.
EDIT: Found this while reading the old chapters:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/9bf57424-c710-483e-b7e0-1fe4ba188399/4
"Please produce reference that fatigue is a noteworthy element in the use of magic in this world."

I'm not "playing the conjecture card". I'm sorting things that can be observed, and have been, against things that have not been observed or even suggested to be observable, but were still raised as if they were backed by observation.

That IS conjecture.

Also you conveniently ignore things like when they said Kosuke's idea of golem for reloading would require golem core that's too big for the crossbow. That 'golem' was only using a 'simple' instruction and it still require a core large enough that would be fit on balista.
Or that magic isn't all fun and game like here:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/9612116d-a5a6-4a5b-bd17-e9b0aa55b395/22

 

[asfhoiasfjoiasfjpi]

This world setting is getting weirder by the minute. Having even marginally useful amounts of magic power is at least somewhat common, items like golem cores exist that can be provisioned reasonably cheaply to convert even trace amounts of magic energy into eyewateringly law-of-conservation-of-energy-defying mechanical movers, and they couldn't have figured out a more thriving economy and diverse age of technology?? Just look at mankind's history of fables and tales. It's full of pots that cook gruel by themselves, wine jugs that refill by themselves, clubs that swing themselves … all things that are dreams about ordinary chores doing themselves. And as far as we know, we don't have any magic at all! With how common and accessible magic is made out to be in that world, it should be brimming with utilities and gadgets and gizmos and people and society benefiting and profiteering from them. Unless those peoples are meant to be understood as debilitatingly inept and unimaginative, raising the question how they managed to evolve to their current state in the first place.

https://mangadex.org/chapter/c33cf24a-f38d-45a6-bad5-92fcef6db693/6

 

[baconcat]

Conjecture. Please produce reference that their system of magic have not developed in however long of history they have.

You don't know what their magic was like in the past, how are you so sure their magic haven't gone through any development at all?

Absence of evidence does not constitute evidence of absence. However, the surprised agreements to K's suggestions are pretty indicative of the applications in question being so far unheard of.
(Also, just using my sentence and swapping a few words around does not constitute a challenge.)

Says the person who call me saying using magic also cause fatigue 'conjecture'.
EDIT: Found this while reading the old chapters:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/9bf57424-c710-483e-b7e0-1fe4ba188399/4
"Please produce reference that fatigue is a noteworthy element in the use of magic in this world."

See? Doesn't it feel good to be able to back up claims? Thank you for making the effort. Do mind, though, that this is anecdotal. Yes, fatigue and magical exhaustion do evidently exist (something I never actually claimed that it does not, merely questioned how relevant it would be), but this item does not provide a reliable measure as to how this extrapolates to other users. Aira is known to be a proficient magician. Also, whatever task she performed is unknown as to how expensive in magic consumption it is. I present again how it is said that "a user", not "a trained, high-capacity magician", is considered adequate for powering the golem cycler with their magic.

That IS conjecture.

Now I'm convinced you don't know what conjecture means. (Or read from a different angle, yes, I am sorting things that are not conjecture from things that are. But the sorting itself is not conjecture, is what I mean to say.)

Also you conveniently ignore things like when they said Kosuke's idea of golem for reloading would require golem core that's too big for the crossbow.

Why would I be ignoring them? Just because they say it can't be that small doesn't mean they can't be used for anything small. Both the monkey's core as well as the contraption on the ballista demonstrate as much, showing how golem cores can be of reasonably small dimensions to be applied in a variety of imaginable devices, even handheld ones.
Also, again, economics of scale. With enough demand and research it's quite plausible that miniaturization could take place. At best, that they say the core cannot be small enough for the hand crossbow only means they don't know how to make one small enough.

That 'golem' was only using a 'simple' instruction and it still require a core large enough that would be fit on balista.

Yup. Even if cores really cannot ever be any smaller, the sizes shown are already of great potential. That core is about the size of a motor in a food processor (including domestic grain mills), washing machine, hand drill, pneumatic hammer (for the mythril mines, you know), what-have-you. Humans are creative. They'll find applications. For a reasonably intelligent, sentient species of sufficiently expansionist mindset, developments like these are inevitable.

Or that magic isn't all fun and game like here:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/9612116d-a5a6-4a5b-bd17-e9b0aa55b395/22

Unsure why that would be relevant.

https://mangadex.org/chapter/c33cf24a-f38d-45a6-bad5-92fcef6db693/6

 

[WhimsiCat]

However, the surprised agreements to K's suggestions are pretty indicative of the applications in question being so far unheard of.

https://mangadex.org/chapter/8b9eb0fb-9981-442a-a0bc-38de3c5fb284/15
"It indeed generate a lot of heat"
Sounds like they're aware of what it is to me.

Compare that to their reaction of morse code (or rather, telecommunication) which...even within human civilization is pretty recent thing.

I present again how it is said that "a user", not "a trained, high-capacity magician", is considered adequate for powering the golem cycler with their magic.

And your original post was about why aren't these people using magic left n right to do daily tasks.
vs operating a golem that's only used during defense i.e. not all the fucking time.

So you're just moving the goal post at this point.

Now I'm convinced you don't know what conjecture means.

And I'm questioning if you do.

Yup. Even if cores really cannot be any smaller, the sizes shown are already of great potential. That core is about the size of a motor in a food processor, washing machine, hand drill, pneumatic hammer (for the mines, you know), what-have-you. Humans are creative. They'll find applications. For a reasonably intelligent, sentient species of sufficiently expansionist mindset, developments like these are inevitable.

And in case you just blatantly forgot: These people escaped from a failed rebellion THREE YEARS ago. They were not swimming in resources to do things (as 'observable' from the early chapters)

Even if they have the knowledge (which they've shown in this chapter with translating the concept of morse code into plausible golem core coding) without resources they're not gonna be able to do much.
The human supremacists being ever present threat would also push resource investment further into that side rather than economic side, after all we've seen what happen when they lose the war.

 

[baconcat]

https://mangadex.org/chapter/8b9eb0fb-9981-442a-a0bc-38de3c5fb284/15
"It indeed generate a lot of heat"
Sounds like they're aware of what it is to me.

They're talking about quicklime and how it reacts in contact with water in a chemical reaction, not a magical one. The weird monkey ball heater is mentioned here. Note how K's question "Why did you make that core?" remains completely unanswered. The monkey simply goes on to state what he made and how but not why. That's either another indication of author's bad writing and/or artist's bad adaptation or a mistake in scanlation. Or a combination of both.

And your original post was about why aren't these people using magic left n right to do daily tasks.
vs operating a golem that's only used during defense i.e. not all the fucking time.

Correct. I'm using it as one example for, one, how readily and constantly any one random user (as in, not a seasoned magic ballista cycler) is considered able to pour forth some decent amount or rate of magic at any time, either constantly or in useful concentrated bursts, and two, into how much more mechanical work that stream of magic can be converted into with a reasonably simple device as opposed to performing the cycling entirely manually, and so much so that any one random user is considered able to cycle a ballista on their own at tactically useful cadence and periods of operation. And I'm contrasting this supposed ready availability with a conspicuous absence of non-ballista applications. I don't know how else I am supposed to explain this to make it stick.

And in case you just blatantly forgot: These people escaped from a failed rebellion THREE YEARS ago. They were not swimming in resources to do things (as 'observable' from the early chapters)

I know they're refugees with scarcity abound. Point is that such devices aren't even presented as common knowledge in the world, not just this refugee camp, or we would have at least some evidence along the lines of people exclaiming "Hey, we got mythril, now we can make power tools again!" the moment it was available through K's efforts. Which they should if they had the same ingenuity with magical devices that they already exhibit with non-magical ones.

Even if they have the knowledge (which they've shown in this chapter with translating the concept of morse code into plausible golem core coding) without resources they're not gonna be able to do much.

Morse is just a convention of encoding information. An alphabet. It doesn't concern itself with which medium it is being used. Modulating that crystal ball's output with information is just making use of the on-off switch that the device already has. So, I'm not sure what that argument is supposed to contribute or sway here.

The human supremacists being ever present threat would also push resource investment further into that side rather than economic side, after all we've seen what happen when they lose the war.

As above. Again, and again, I'm not expecting the refugees to have or not have magical power tools. What I am expecting, though, is at least the knowledge of the existence of such tools. After all, said human supremacists would have the resources for the drive of innovation if such drive was considered by the author, would they not?

Either way, seeing how disproportionately agitated this exchange is making you leads me to believe that you're taking this way too personal. Dude, I'm trying to do science here. I'm taking findings, evaluating data points in context, necessarily arbiting whether they are useful information or noise to disregard, comparing them with known models. I have no interest in "winning" an argument. I don't care whether you "lose". I don't care whether you agree or disagree with me. Hypotheses and theories are tested and reevaluated all the time when faced with new information. That's not moving goalposts. That's how science works. And how it works. Whereas what I get from you is but wavings in my face of some datapoints that happen to cause these reevaluations mentioned before and dancing and shouting "Hah hah, this says you're wrong, I win". That's not how science works. That's how dogmatic zealotry works. Well, how it operates, anyway.

Please, I'm happy for you to have your interpretation and opinion, but if you're really interested in fruitful discourse I suggest you tone down your hostility and tendency to be personally offended by disagreement. I'm not your enemy. If you insist on continuing to see me as one in your responses instead of a peer in science examining presented evidence and its implications, this is only going to lead to more frustration for you.

Now, shall we continue with butting heads and pool-noodling each other with interpretations of each other's interpretations, or can we switch to actually productive examinations and analyses of what's equally evident to the both of us?

 

[Michael_Chandra]

Ma, the cats are doing a silly fight!

 

[WhimsiCat]

They're talking about quicklime and how it reacts in contact with water in a chemical reaction, not a magical one. The weird monkey ball heater is mentioned here. Note how K's question "Why did you make that core?" remains completely unanswered. The monkey simply goes on to state what he made and how but not why. That's either another indication of author's bad writing and/or artist's bad adaptation or a mistake in scanlation. Or a combination of both.

Neither, it's a mistranslation. He actually asked "WHAT" is it made of, so the question was properly answered (copper-mithril alloy)

I'm using it as one example for, one, how readily and constantly any one random user (as in, not a seasoned magic ballista cycler) is considered able to pour forth some decent amount or rate of magic at any time, either constantly or in useful concentrated bursts

Conjecture, they only said to input the mana, not the amount or how long they can last.

And I'm contrasting this supposed ready availability with a conspicuous absence of non-ballista applications.

Because you're under false assumption that golem core are somehow in abundant supply despite it requiring MITHRIL to make.
(or that mithril is abundant supply without Kosuke's cheat)

Point is that such devices aren't even presented as common knowledge in the world, not just this refugee camp, or we would have at least some evidence along the lines of people exclaiming "Hey, we got mythril, now we can make power tools again!"

Because there's more valuable things they can put the mithril to use that can't be replaced by just working manually? Like the mithril weapons to actually fight back things that's coming to murder them because having easier time farming won't help you escape slavery?

Morse is just a convention of encoding information. An alphabet. It doesn't concern itself with which medium it is being used. Modulating that crystal ball's output with information is just making use of the on-off switch that the device already has. So, I'm not sure what that argument is supposed to contribute or sway here.

It's not the morse code you need to pay attention to, it's the idea of replicating radio technology with THEIR magical tech using golem core. Y'know, the small text in the next page?
Or did you failed to read that bit too.

After all, said human supremacists would have the resources for the drive of innovation if such drive was considered by the author, would they not?

Why focus on tools that require extremely rare material (mithril) to make when they have easier, more readily way to increase their mage numbers.

Spoiler

raping elves and birthing children with higher magical power

which was the real reason they invaded the kingdom, btw

Hypotheses and theories are tested and reevaluated all the time when faced with new information.

What I am expecting, though, is at least the knowledge of the existence of such tools.

Doesn't seem like you've reevaluated your expectation at all though.

You started on why aren't these tools every where, and here you are still questioning why haven't they invented such tools despite the plausible answer: The materials to make them is rare (mithril) so they're put towards things that can't be replaced with manual work, like weapons.

The story literally had a chapter of him mining:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/50520894-7b57-4ff3-be69-e6b9543b8846/17

Out of all that mountain side and just out of the 2000+ ore units, mithril only made up ~0.5% of it, so if you include the non-ore stuffs (dirt, rock, etc) it'd be even lower.
And 1 unit of mithril?
https://mangadex.org/chapter/50520894-7b57-4ff3-be69-e6b9543b8846/18
About fist size, making maybe 2 swords once processed.

That's after his cheat ability neatly separate the mithril from other things + being able to mine through the whole space so quickly.

EDIT: been reading the novel translation, and what'd you know

Spoiler

They eventually mention a base that run all kind of magic tools.
The condition? Being set up on top of a vein for infinite magic supply (i.e. power plant), which is near the warding device in the earlier chapter.

And the way it's worded suggest rather than personal size magic tool (the things you complain about not seeing) they're running larger, more community-use things (which fit with how they've described the golem core size topic)

 

[Jefbt]

-.-   .-   .--   .-   ..   ..  ..  ..  😍

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Hot damn. Dark elf maid princess

 

[MrNine]

I still think she looks better in her former clothes

 

[sdarkpaladin]

Fix what exactly?

It's in the comment section in the previous chapter, there were a lot of typos and mistranslation

 

[Amariithynar]

Fair enough, the monkey did mention mythril as a component in the core he made, and with how much fuss Aira & Co. raised when Ko(u)suke (fix your proofreader, ffs, and decide on a spelling, will you?) off-handedly listed mythril in his yield report, it's conceivable that the availability of mythril is heavily regulated; and if it is so essential in making cores that they can't be made without it then that would be one explanation why such magic movers aren't more common.
On the other hand, gold is seen in the real world as such a big deal behind financial power that it is of state interest, yet it's in a vast majority of cheaply available consumer products, so, that doesn't really hold up, either.
And mythril being well-known, if rare, even before K's arrival implies means and mechanisms (if usually prohibitively expensive ones) are in place for obtaining it. Which in turn means it's available to the laws of economics of scale. (As would creation and development of the cores.) If people can make profit, it's inevitable to have a supply of even the most precious, rare, and difficult-to-extract materials made available, one way or another.

So, with the availability as a limiting factor pretty much ruled out, it's like mankind knowing about electricity yet foregoing (post-steam) technological advancement because they couldn't be arsed to develop, make, and improve on electric motors. It just doesn't add up.

Meaning, with all that, I suppose crappy writing and golem = cool is the most plausible explanation, which was my (and then your) original criticism and conclusion. Shame, really.

Thanks for the pointer to World Teacher, though, I'll have a look.

Actually, availability as a limiting factor is not ruled out, at all. Gold was seen as a big deal regarding financial power because of how it looked pleasing to the eye but more importantly its inertness, not tarnishing or corroding under basically any condition; this is why it was the primary metal for high-end coinage and similar throughout most of humanity's recent history, because gold coinage was intrinsically reliable, unless someone shaved some of the coin's material. However, finances have divested of the gold standard for several decades now (specifically, in 1971), because there simply was and is not enough gold for financial purposes, and they'd reached the limit awhile prior to that event; it was merely formalized at that time.

Furthermore, that "it's in a vast majority of cheaply available consumer products" is very much an even more modern function, using gold specifically for its capacity as a conductor and the aforementioned chemical inertness, which means connectors (5 to 10 microinches of gold over 20-50 microinches of nickel plate) with processes that can actually separate and deposit that sheer layer of material; it's such a little amount that a pound of just the connectors cut off of those cables goes for about 75 cents. Most products weren't electronic until about 15 years ago, as well; analog products had no need for gold plated connectors, and even those that were electronic did not and still do not use gold.

Now, back to Mythril: Kousuke's ability to find Mythril anywhere in the world, just by digging, is a borrowing of the ore veins in games like 7DTD and Minecraft; it isn't anywhere near that common normally, even though knowledge of its uses is. Compare it to something like Palladium, which even with all of our modern tools and techniques only amounts to about 210,000 kg of it being mined per year, in only four places in the world (one mine in Russia, two in the USA, two tiny ones in Zimbabwe, and six in South Africa), yet is used in trace amounts in modern vehicles for catalytic converters the world over.

The world that they're in doesn't have long-distance communication magic, and using precious golem cores to do so is something they can immediately innovate, but lack the material because they don't have those high volume processing capabilities, there is no world-wide logistics network like we maintain today, and trade borders are going to be closed, for the most part, towards guerilla rebels fighting back after they've already lost and been forced to retreat to the wild and untamed places of the world not (yet) claimed by any great nation. They do not have the processing capability for it, at all.

As for why magic isn't used to do so? Magic is hard as fuck to use. Most people only have a small residual amount of magic, and can use that as a battery for very simple devices for a short period of time, as with the golem crossbow's restringing arm, but anything beyond such miniscule uses is impossible. And unless they can just generate Mythril out of nowhere, like Kousuke can, there is no way that anyone would willingly waste what little Mythril they've managed to obtain on simply reloading stationary ballista mounted on walls.

TL;DR: You SERIOUSLY underestimate modern technology and just how recent it truly is when it comes to scale and logistics, and simultaneously seriously underestimate how much of a cheat Kousuke's powers are, logistically.

 

[Xeroxcopy4free]

Ty for the chapter

 

[Lanfear]

Just wanted everyone to know that all of your wildest interspecies dreams will come true based on the LN at this point.

Still waiting on a true furry girl but other than that its been great.