Hachinan tte, Sore wa Nai Deshou! - Ch. 98

[Enalis]

Thanks for the chapter

 

[VooXoo]

Seems like the manga plot diverged from the novel and can't be used to predict the plot, there could be more differences, it could even be that the novel reader are thinking of the web novel, unfortuantely most web novelist get forced to change the story for the light novel, and that is what gets adapted as manga and anime, anyone that read them and then checked adaptations knows what I'm talking about.
Given MC weird feeling about Klaus is likely some sort of betrayal is coming, or could be that Klaus is actually helping the territory so much they will be forced to give him and his family some big compensation for his effort, like control of the new village, a favour or MC having to marry one of his nieces, so the "coming doom" is simply predicitng MC falling into the old man plan and not having a good reason to go against it.

 

[chendu]

Tanks for the food

 

[dereth]

Needless to say, Klaus' head should have flown a while ago.

 

[piratesgoyarrrr]

Despite all the political maneuvering, Klaus just knowingly put his lord in danger. Doesn't matter if the ends justified the means, nor that Wend would have to power to defeat the threat. He still without forewarning exposed his lord to possible injury, capture, or even death.

That not being enough, his pretense of not wanting to warn the insurrectionists is utter garbage. At any point during their conversation he could have warned Wend what was going on, yet held his tongue until after the conflict was revealed and too late to handle by other means. So not only did he endangered his Lord, he did so in a manner that robbed him of any other option but to fight.

Klaus should not recieve praise or even acknowledgement for exposing the plot, he should be censored for withholding critical information, and removed from his position for willfully endangering a count and his consorts lives. After which he should lose his life.

I agree with all of this, but would like to point out that it's "censured" instead of "censored". Totally get why they could be confused though.

 

[Miserys_End]

I agree with all of this, but would like to point out that it's "censured" instead of "censored". Totally get why they could be confused though.

Most likely. Hooked on phonics didn't work for me, and spell check with predictive text basicly functions as a translator from my native language Typo.

 

[Miserys_End]

In the novel, don't the half brothers (who want to become nobles themselves) end with a short drop and a sudden stop?

Of the three half-brothers,only remember the eldest Kert(?) and his supporters that recieved such punishments. Of the other two half-brothers, both loyally support Wendelin. One directly as the head of the knight ranked branch family, and the other indirectly after being adopted as the future hier of a then low ranking bureaucratic noble.

I honestly dont remeber what happens to any of Klaus's sons. My WAG is that they continued to support Wend after their father's removal, but their work and actions are justifiably scrutinized.

 

[Grikath]

I've mentioned this before, but I feel that one thing that throws people off is that the whole Nobility thing is drawn as european...ish, with japanese titles transliterated to european equivalents, but is actually based on asian, presumably japanese, noble relationships.
Which makes things much more convoluted and outright weird in what the MC can and cannot do in a given situation.

The way Klaus, and the action, is depicted here, it's obvious he's up to no good. ( only thing missing is the Wyrmtongue handwringing and *gollum*ing..)
However... He maintains "plausibility" and "propriety", so cannot be directly accused or be dealt with.
Not without our MC losing a ton of Noble Pixie Points with the other nobles. And probably embarassing his formal liege lord, which is even more of a Not-Done thing..

Y'know.. stuff japanese and chinese history is full of. And regularly gets referenced to in a whole lotta Rosie manga.
With a 50/50 chance the situation here is actually a historical reference japanese highschoolers would understand, but we won't.

 

[Kade_BSG]

Of the three half-brothers,only remember the eldest Kert(?) and his supporters that recieved such punishments. Of the other two half-brothers, both loyally support Wendelin. One directly as the head of the knight ranked branch family, and the other indirectly after being adopted as the future hier of a then low ranking bureaucratic noble.

I honestly dont remeber what happens to any of Klaus's sons. My WAG is that they continued to support Wend after their father's removal, but their work and actions are justifiably scrutinized.

Sorry, but that's not the case, Kurt was Wendelin's full blood brother, born from the official wife long after most of the other sons. Wendelin wasn't born from the mistress. His half brothers were born from the mistress, but he was born from the official wife. See Ch 58 where they greet her.

Depending on the version you read, the official wife even talks about how giving birth to Wendelin "broke her belly".
That's actually a part of the conflict, whilst he was 8th born, he was 6th in line for succession, because he is of full noble blood, Whereas Walter and Carl aren't. Walter and Carl (born from the mistress) never lived in the same house unlike his other full brothers (who as you said were loyal)

Kurt - From the official wife, killed in betrayal
Hermann - From the official wife, married into the collateral family
Paul - From the official wife, left for the capital with most of the other legitimate sons
Helmut - From the official wife, yes the same name as the king, left for the capital with most of the other legitimate sons
Eric - From the official wife, the brother Wendelin got along with the best, left for the capital with most of the other legitimate sons, married into another knight family in the capital, sparking off the Capital arc
Walter - From the mistress, so a half brother
Carl - From the mistress, so a half brother
Wendelin - From the official wife, the MC

Also there are 2 sisters from the Mistress (Agnes and Corona)
Also also, Walter and Carl are Klaus's grandsons, from his daughter (the mistress) not his sons

 

[GreC_89]

Of the three half-brothers,only remember the eldest Kert(?) and his supporters that recieved such punishments. Of the other two half-brothers, both loyally support Wendelin. One directly as the head of the knight ranked branch family, and the other indirectly after being adopted as the future hier of a then low ranking bureaucratic noble.

I honestly dont remeber what happens to any of Klaus's sons. My WAG is that they continued to support Wend after their father's removal, but their work and actions are justifiably scrutinized.

Sorry, but that's not the case, Kurt was Wendelin's full blood brother, born from the official wife long after most of the other sons. Wendelin wasn't born from the mistress. His half brothers were born from the mistress, but he was born from the official wife. See Ch 58 where they greet her.

Depending on the version you read, the official wife even talks about how giving birth to Wendelin "broke her belly".
That's actually a part of the conflict, whilst he was 8th born, he was 6th in line for succession, because he is of full noble blood, Whereas Walter and Carl aren't. Walter and Carl (born from the mistress) never lived in the same house unlike his other full brothers (who as you said were loyal)

Kurt - From the official wife, killed in betrayal
Hermann - From the official wife, married into the collateral family
Paul - From the official wife, left for the capital with most of the other legitimate sons
Helmut - From the official wife, yes the same name as the king, left for the capital with most of the other legitimate sons
Eric - From the official wife, the brother Wendelin got along with the best, left for the capital with most of the other legitimate sons, married into another knight family in the capital, sparking off the Capital arc
Walter - From the mistress, so a half brother
Carl - From the mistress, so a half brother
Wendelin - From the official wife, the MC

Also there are 2 sisters from the Mistress (Agnes and Corona)
Also also, Walter and Carl are Klaus's grandsons, from his daughter (the mistress) not his sons

Originally Walter was scheduled replace his grandfather Klaus as village headman and Carl will be given another village inn a newly developed area. Than they get carried away and wanted more. Then this 'adventures' shown up and they (Klaus and grandsons) lead assault on Herman's residence taking everyone hostage. Since the entire situation was charade for Klaus to teach them a lesson and avoid damage to territory they avoided capital punishment. They and five people from the teritory along with theirs families will be given territory to reclaim from scratch. The catch is there will be almost no assistance from their brothers (money, new resident, magic) and heavy surveillance until generation change. As Wend put it in the words "It was punishment close to an exile". Klaus was able haggle up some help for them as a middleman, making 'adventures' to defect to a new lord. The Klaus' granddaughters and theirs husband was against and severed ties so was able avoid all the problems.
Since Spoilers apparently wouldn't be happening and there nothing to punish them for thing will go into original direction. Either way we probably will never see them again after this arc.

 

[Llangion]

I'm going to need a flowchart to remember all these names 😵‍💫

 

[Strigxx]

Despite all the political maneuvering, Klaus just knowingly put his lord in danger. Doesn't matter if the ends justified the means, nor that Wend would have to power to defeat the threat. He still without forewarning exposed his lord to possible injury, capture, or even death.

That not being enough, his pretense of not wanting to warn the insurrectionists is utter garbage. At any point during their conversation he could have warned Wend what was going on, yet held his tongue until after the conflict was revealed and too late to handle by other means. So not only did he endangered his Lord, he did so in a manner that robbed him of any other option but to fight.

Klaus should not recieve praise or even acknowledgement for exposing the plot, he should be censored for withholding critical information, and removed from his position for willfully endangering a count and his consorts lives. After which he should lose his life.

Considering that his own goals is stability to his land and family, he would do anything to achieve that goal even if he has to face death and defying them.

 

[Miserys_End]

Considering that his own goals is stability to his land and family, he would do anything to achieve that goal even if he has to face death and defying them.

Except his actions could have directly led to Wend's death if things went poorly... hells, even being injured would have caused a great ammount of chaos and uproar.

Not reporting the insurgents before the lord was there to handle them is one thing, but staging a double ambush is something else all together. Having a direct hand in injuring you lord is a good way to die, and your family to either be exiled or follow your dumb ass to the gallows.