Hawkwood - Vol. 7 Ch. 42 - A Battle of Kings

[MangaDex]

 

[dharkness]

Biddys gallors

 

[CommieJohnTeh]

"A musket, a musket, my kingdom for a musket." -King "Lionheart" Richard I.
And at least the whores still have some sort of relevance 🤪

 

[Panzercracker]

That not how bow works, lol.

 

[karanga]

that arrow explanation is BS lmao, cmon author san

 

[Rosen_Ritter]

https://history.stackexchange.com/questions/9424/how-effective-were-longbow-archers-against-plate-armored-infantry

 

[APSINTHOS]

Lmao author thought if it falling arrows means it will have stronger impact upon landing cause gravity, misses the fact that it will do mostly the same amount of impact (if not less) as it was being shot into the air.

Spoiler

Basically if an arrow need 5 seconds to reach it highest point (peak of the projectile arc) in air after being shot, then it will land on land surface after 5 seconds too.

 

[Panzercracker]

This one is a good sample for longbow vs plate armor, even shooting at pretty close range, arrow still ineffective against plate armor, left alone falling arrow which lost all force from bow and force from gravity is very weak for arrow can even piecing shallow to human skin and fat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBxdTkddHaE

 

[Alkmar]

Arrows can pierce armors? Muhahahahahahahaha
So why knights and men at arms keep protect themselves with full plate armor? What nonsense

 

[Bearil]

Heavy armor can protect from arrows but are not impervious to it, plus most armors are designed to protect the front and the back mainly leaving spots here and there since the knight needs to move or just look around (a lucky arrow on the visor place even when closed might penetrate and kill the knight). A knight could tank quite a lot arrows but they dont need to kill the Knight just impede their movement or just kill the horse which was far less armored and often resulted on the knight dieing by being trampled or by the fall anyways. Even staggering some knights might be enough to crash against the near knights since they used formations. On that sense the Knights became the medieval version of tanks without infantery support (they would die if they get close due to having far worse armor or even none) and were picked apart easily.

Gravity starts interacting with the arrow once it leaves your bow string. That means that your arrow starts falling when you and your bow aren't holding it up. Now, there is a certain amount of air resistance or drag on the arrow, which causes a small amount of resistance to gravity, but given that the arrow's shape when dropped doesn't build up much air resistance, for all intents and purposes, it accelerates at 32.2 feet per second squared. This means that if you shoot an arrow and drop one from the same height at the same time, they will hit the ground simultaneously. (Assuming no other force interacts with those arrows.) The longer the arrow flies through the air, the faster the speed is when it hits the ground. So, the flight path of an arrow is in the shape of an arc with the highest point being when gravity overcomes the vertical propellent force imparted to the arrow. In layperson's terms, if you shoot level, the moment the arrow leaves the bow string, it loses height.

To add an extra complication, heavier arrows, that is, arrows with more mass, will move more slowly than a lighter arrow when shot with the same bow. As a result. the heavier the arrow, the faster the arrow will fall. Now that arrow will penetrate the target deeper than the lighter arrow, given Force = Mass x Acceleration. Add more mass or more acceleration, and your arrow will penetrate further, as a general rule. Thats why volley fire was used against heavy targets: to increase the penetration and avoid the most armored areas like the chest, same way that against modern tanks you dont atack its front if possible because the armor is the thickest there unless you have enough firepower to simply not care

 

[LowSanity]

@Alkmar
Arrows can pierce armour. Just not how it's shown in this manga.
Penetrating plates is really hard but you can hit the gaps in armour.
There are numerous accounts of ppl being hit in the face after they opened the helmet to breathe some air.
The archers were also commonly used to shoot horses.

English longbows were not used to shoot high. Arrows falling from the skies are slower then arrows shot straight at someone.
Battle of Agincourt is probably the most famouse use of english longbows. In this battle the archers were quite close and shooting at ppl that were slowly moving through the mud.

 

[Alkmar]

@LowSanity

You misunderstood me: when i said arrows can't pierce armour, i mean they can't pierce through the plate, the steel, by no means i was talking about the gaps. A sword or a spear could hit the gaps too.

 

[ADK]

wait till the English research Crossbows and Bracers... enough archers with micro can bring hordes of Paladins to their knees!

 

[AbuHajaar]

Penetrating steel armor on direct impact wasn't possible in general
Only really heavy crossbows and later on, guns were able to do it reliably

 

[Longn4]

Fuck Yeah! Whores!

 

[kalton]

later, the Black Prince will be the one to shoot the french to pieces at Poitiers and even capture King Jean

 

[Panzercracker]

@Bearil gravity pull not enough to penetrate steel armor unless you stand on higher ground and shoot downward, and in real history archers rarely to none volley fire, most is fire at will only when firearm was introduced which requires volley fire and to deal heavy targets, archers shoot vertical in 10-20 meters range, not rainbow style.

In recent event in Syria, soldiers usually shot to the sky to celebrate victory, an AK ammo tip fall to a soldier chest and only able to penetrate few cm and stuck halfway on his skin and fat.

 

[Pilatypus]

Don't mind me I'm just here for the whores

 

[Doomroar]

You raised the prince wrong.

 

[RudoRonuma]

@scrubquotesx