Hello, Melancholic! - Vol. 3 Ch. 11

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Yeah, although Minato didn't chose the right words, Hibiki was basically pushing her out of the band and that sucks... It shouldn't be that hard to understand that she wanted to stay with the band, well maybe it is because the most important parts were left in Minato's mind and not in her words... Still... Fights are inevitable in a relationship.
 
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I love HIBIKI but she’s doing the classic “I think I know better than you what you need so I’m pushing you toward it” thing which is never a great behavior. Stopping and listening will save everyone hurt in the long run
 
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Hibiki is being way to pushy. I was already sceptical about her methods to get Minato to join the club but right now she has definitely gone to far. I understand that she only wants what she thinks would be best for Minato but I get the impression that she doesn't understand her at all. Minato has just gotten to the point where she has fun playing music again and starts opening up to others, forcing her to join a professional band is definitely way too soon. Besides, why can't people just accept that others sometimes just don't want to do certain things? It's their life, let them take responsibility and decide for themselves.
 
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I disagree. Forcing (not pushing, forcing) someone to do something against their will, even if it is for "their own good," by doing things behind their back (saying Minato would go) or taking advantage of their feelings (by saying she would go with her), therefore arranging circumstances where the other person cannot refuse; pretending to acknowledge the other person's ultimate right to refuse (p.9) only to ignore it later and pressure the other person into making the choice that is "best for them" regardless of their will...
That's all NG, a breach of both trust and boundaries. When Hibiki did it the first time around, it felt like she could perceive that Minato wasn't opposed to joining the band, just scared; and she very much wanted her to join for selfish reasons.
This time, it feels like she's become fearful of either her feelings for Minato or Minato's feelings for her; and wants to put as much distance between them as possible. This entire chapter, she seems very eager to make Minato join the City Brass. It feels to me like her reasons are, once again, very selfish, and only thinly veiled in concern about Minato's future.

As for the "you're doing the same as your father," I think it's fairly obvious. For a lot of us socially awkward people, finding flaws in logic is a lot easier than producing emotionally compelling arguments.
Which is why, it was a lot easier for Minato to point out Hibiki's hypocrisy rather than say something more emotional or sugary, like "Playing music is no fun without you"

Ultimately, they were both in the wrong, but Minato was on the receiving end of a lot more emotional pressure, both due to her shy personality and tendency to only complain nominally. Which is why, when Hibiki says "You jerk!" at the end, it feels like she's being very selfish and is completely ignoring Minato's feelings for the past days; presumably out of gay panic.
 
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Hibiki kept pushing and pushing until she backed Minato into a corner which made the latter snap and say something she maybe shouldn't have or wouldn't have in another circumstance. Hopefully Hibiki will stew on it and actually listen to what Minato was trying to say all day sans her outburst near the end there. I get that she was trying to help but she crossed a line.
 
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Ngl Hibiki needs to learn some boundaries, hopefully their disagreement will lead to character growth for her
 
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Oh my, they fought.
Love quarrel? how cute.
 
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I know Hibiki is hurt by that comment, but she needs to realize that she wasn’t letting Minato make her own decisions on these things. If Hibiki was TRULY wanting to help her, she would’ve told Minato about the invite and worked towards getting her to accept it. By accepting for her, and using her own attendance to push Minato to go, she didn’t do that. Minato really didn’t want to be there and only went to satisfy Hibiki and honor the agreement that was made.
 
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>Girls making out
>MC confessed she liked her senpai romantically
>Mangadex removes the yuri tag
???
 
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You know most of the time when reading comments I cringe internally. But
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